You know its still a pain for me to open a Windows 8 laptop. I troubleshooted two of them in the last 4 months with the later one just being last Wednesday.
Being mostly on Windows 7 myself, the useless lock screen is just a hindrance everytime you are supposed to login and since its Windows 8 (not 8.1) that's preloaded with these laptops, the Metro screen is always the first thing you see after login. I installed Classic Shell of course just to make their owners more comfortable.
Another thing I don't really like with newer machines is Secure Boot or at least the way it operates. The only problem with the Windows 8 HP laptop I had touched days ago was that the owner messed up the password and couldn't login. I had to boot some bootable fixing tools including Hiren's Boot CD to get around this but apparently, I had to find the "Legacy Boot" option in the BIOS so that they could be bootable in the first place and there was a bug in the BIOS that as long as Legacy Boot was turned on, the laptop won't boot from the hard disk. I was able to fix it though but it would have takes far less time to do this on a Windows 7 laptop that came out years ago.
@Vertex: Yes, I hear you. Win 8(.1) is the classic example of, when compared to 7: "Do not try to fix what is not broken, and if you even dare attempt to, you better be most excellent at it." IMHO, 8(.1) is fail in many ways.
I'm not hating on M$. I think Win 7 is as perfect as any modern operating system could possibly ever be. Maybe take Win 8 new file copy GUI and put it on 7 with a Windows Update patch. That's all. Maybe Task Manager too but ehh either way on this one. (You can do this with stuff from Deviantart, anyhow.) They will never do this though, because it would be pointing out even more how you do not want 8.
Yeah, MS should have released an SP2 of Windows 7 with some of the good bits of Windows 8 included but they will NEVER do that because that would mean a further sign of defeat.
And OEMs should do their best to make their machines as easy to fix as possible. Secure Boot was more secure but its a double edged blade.
However, this time they had to design their own computers to fully utilize their software, they had to open their own store fronts and pay employee salaries, and still pay out these daily expenses. They also, had to let Best Buy cut into their profits (if any), and last year alone paid $750 million dollars just in advertising. They have given away free copies to schools, reduced prices many times. And yet, after all that, it still only has about the same amount of users as Vista. I don't see this as a real money maker, I am not sure it ever will.
Um, from what I have been reading, other countries, are going to 7 instead of 8 or Ubuntu from XP. Unfortunately, as I am finding out , quite slowly, Crazy 8 is great if you do not change one thing in the original set-up. And do not add any old printers, programs, whatever, it looks at you like what is this? I just hope Crazy 8 does not become the orphan child of Gates.
Admittedly 8/8.1 is not MSís biggest hit as of date, but we have a ways to go until 9 release. On the other hand, it is not a failure like Vista either. Itís just that itís a drastic change > Change that I see some having difficulties with. At first it was a love-it-or-hate-it OS. Then as time went on some (seeing that it was a solid OS with added features) warmed up to it. 8.1 helped out even more so for the ďDesktoppersĒ had more options. Then even more warmed up to it. I think the whole concept will eventually come around.
I donít know the exact numbers for each division, but even if MS breaks even or loses a little in one division, they are well diversified to make it up in others. All in all MS continues to do quite well at making profit, which increases form year to year: Microsoft Investor Relations - Press Releases
OEM/MS relationship has been a strange affair from time to time through the years IMO. They got into spats just like anyone does. I would guess MS wanted to set the pace on how itís going to be done, while diversifying with Surface hardware along with Xbox, and other peripherals, also adding Nokia this year. Nothing wrong with companies diversifying if performed properly, although I think theyíve got some learning to do so far as marketing. I see Lenovo and some others are performing somewhat well while others are struggling. Windows 8 was no secret to OEMs while being designed and created so their engineering departments could get on the drawing boards.
Touch UI is not at all anything new. Itís been around for ages. MS is stepping up to the plate and taking it a lot further in their new vision of how users/people will interact with devices, keeping in mind that the keyboard and mouse will continue to be input devices and always will be. Personally I have no problem navigating 8/8.1 with them whatsoever, although I prefer the keyboard at my desk tower and I prefer touch on other devices. It doesnít mean that they canít coexist.
Obviously MS in their vision sees touch UI an ever increasing means of human / machine interaction. Theyíre not alone. Other companies have been doing so with others entering the arena also. Hereís just one example: TouchTunes | Home Amazing tech and donít forget the services that come along with.
You can read all about it here straight from the horseís mouth confirmed by an auditor. You can read Ballmerís goodbye letter to investors and even meet the new boss, whom I think will lead MS even farther into the new direction they chose to take. Microsoft Investor Relations
Have a good day and happy computing. With that Iíll post with Alt/S to make it a total of 10K posts.
Hippsie: You rock with that name and avatar. \m/ hah
Um - ya, touch, /sigh
They should give away free membership to Gold's gym to anyone using on a desktop, so he or she can maintain the strength and flexibility to use. hah
Moar p0wa to HG!!! 10k
The lock screen is one of my favorite features of 8.x. I love how it's implemented and displays what I want from my local or Onedrive.
Picture password is super convenient too.
It's pretty impressive how much they've sold considering the change from something that worked so well previously and the added decline of the industry.
I'm so glad they stepped up with Surface cause their previous partners never really made anything compelling. Much happier too that I have a choice other than the other platforms out there that never quite satisfied my needs.
Touch and a Fluffernutter sandwich, on toast, do not mix. Right there was the mistake.