Despite Imminent Retirement, More Users Move to Windows XP

If those users get hacked, system gets corrupted, what have you, there isn't any support coming from Microsoft in patching security holes or addressing performance problems.

Disregarding that, how idiotic do you have to be to use a 13 year old operating system on technology that didn't EVEN EXIST 13 years ago, such as APUs or SSDs? Seriously right now. Those users are becoming a huge hindrance to software developers as instead of coding for Windows 7/8/8.1 or even vista, nope, they have code for an OS 13 years old on a completely different NT kernel version. Now the drivers...that's also got to make those developers question, "Why?" when they have a new chipset to get working with Windows or Linux, nope, it needs to work with a 13 year old operating system. Why? Because some people probably have no idea what they're doing. Have fun getting Bitcoins stolen, online banking info thieved, and system corrupted from malware that xp can't repair on its own.

Wow.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
Some people don't have the money or the desire to upgrade their computer. I don't see where this makes them idiotic. I haven't found myself at a huge disadvantage because software vendors are holding back because people are way behind me.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built in July 2009
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Acer x233H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
If those users get hacked, system gets corrupted, what have you, there isn't any support coming from Microsoft in patching security holes or addressing performance problems.

Disregarding that, how idiotic do you have to be to use a 13 year old operating system on technology that didn't EVEN EXIST 13 years ago, such as APUs or SSDs? Seriously right now. Those users are becoming a huge hindrance to software developers as instead of coding for Windows 7/8/8.1 or even vista, nope, they have code for an OS 13 years old on a completely different NT kernel version. Now the drivers...that's also got to make those developers question, "Why?" when they have a new chipset to get working with Windows or Linux, nope, it needs to work with a 13 year old operating system. Why? Because some people probably have no idea what they're doing. Have fun getting Bitcoins stolen, online banking info thieved, and system corrupted from malware that xp can't repair on its own.

Wow.

Just because someone is still using XP (or any OS for that matter) doesn't mean manufacturers have to support it and write drivers or applications for it. Linux is a perfect example, its out there but not every manufacturer writes drivers for it. People trying to replace 8 with 7 have run into trouble finding Windows 7 drivers for that new tech they just bought. Your logic seems flawed on that one.

Some people just don't understand the implications of what happens when end of support happens. They can still use that PC and will. Likely until it won't work anymore and they are forced to move on. Not everybody is as computer savvy as you or I. To some its like their car or other appliance. To them its not broken so why replace it. That's life in the slow lane.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
If those users get hacked, system gets corrupted, what have you, there isn't any support coming from Microsoft in patching security holes or addressing performance problems.

Disregarding that, how idiotic do you have to be to use a 13 year old operating system on technology that didn't EVEN EXIST 13 years ago, such as APUs or SSDs? Seriously right now. Those users are becoming a huge hindrance to software developers as instead of coding for Windows 7/8/8.1 or even vista, nope, they have code for an OS 13 years old on a completely different NT kernel version. Now the drivers...that's also got to make those developers question, "Why?" when they have a new chipset to get working with Windows or Linux, nope, it needs to work with a 13 year old operating system. Why? Because some people probably have no idea what they're doing. Have fun getting Bitcoins stolen, online banking info thieved, and system corrupted from malware that xp can't repair on its own.

Wow.

Just because someone is still using XP (or any OS for that matter) doesn't mean manufacturers have to support it and write drivers or applications for it. Linux is a perfect example, its out there but not every manufacturer writes drivers for it. People trying to replace 8 with 7 have run into trouble finding Windows 7 drivers for that new tech they just bought. Your logic seems flawed on that one.

Some people just don't understand the implications of what happens when end of support happens. They can still use that PC and will. Likely until it won't work anymore and they are forced to move on. Not everybody is as computer savvy as you or I. To some its like their car or other appliance. To them its not broken so why replace it. That's life in the slow lane.

I'm now using Win 8.1, but I was raised in the era if it's not broken why replace it. That is exactly how I feel about most things. Lots of seniors just can't afford it. This will be the last computer I will ever buy. People living on $1000.00 a month just can't afford new computers and that is why they will stick with Win XP until it want work any more.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Browser
    Internet Explorer
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
Wow Indeed

Disregarding that, how idiotic do you have to be to use a 13 year old operating system on technology that didn't EVEN EXIST 13 years ago, such as APUs or SSDs?
...
Wow.
Wow indeed.
How idiotic does a corporation have to be to create an OS that is so hated, people would rather install a 13 year old obsolete OS?

Seriously right now. Those users are becoming a huge hindrance to software developers as instead of coding for Windows 7/8/8.1 or even vista, nope, they have code for an OS 13 years old on a completely different NT kernel version.
Developers should be writing code for operating systems that people (i.e. customers) are actually using.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 18.3 MATE (64 bit)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    n/a
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3
    Memory
    8GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Ares F3-1333C9D-8GAO (4GB x 2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD6450
    Sound Card
    Realtek?
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S23B350
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA), Western Digital 2 TB (SATA), Western Digital 3 TB (SATA)
    Case
    Tower
    Mouse
    Wired Optical
    Other Info
    Linux Mint 16 MATE (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 17 MATE (64 bit) - 2014-05-17
    Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 16 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-11-13
    Ubuntu 10.04 (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-01-14
    RAM & Graphics Card Upgraded - 2013-01-13
    Monitor Upgraded - 2012-04-20
    System Upgraded - 2011-05-21, 2010-07-14
    HDD Upgraded - 2010-08-11, 2011-08-24,
If those users get hacked, system gets corrupted, what have you, there isn't any support coming from Microsoft in patching security holes or addressing performance problems.

Disregarding that, how idiotic do you have to be to use a 13 year old operating system on technology that didn't EVEN EXIST 13 years ago, such as APUs or SSDs? Seriously right now. Those users are becoming a huge hindrance to software developers as instead of coding for Windows 7/8/8.1 or even vista, nope, they have code for an OS 13 years old on a completely different NT kernel version. Now the drivers...that's also got to make those developers question, "Why?" when they have a new chipset to get working with Windows or Linux, nope, it needs to work with a 13 year old operating system. Why? Because some people probably have no idea what they're doing. Have fun getting Bitcoins stolen, online banking info thieved, and system corrupted from malware that xp can't repair on its own.

Wow.

Just because someone is still using XP (or any OS for that matter) doesn't mean manufacturers have to support it and write drivers or applications for it. Linux is a perfect example, its out there but not every manufacturer writes drivers for it. People trying to replace 8 with 7 have run into trouble finding Windows 7 drivers for that new tech they just bought. Your logic seems flawed on that one.

Some people just don't understand the implications of what happens when end of support happens. They can still use that PC and will. Likely until it won't work anymore and they are forced to move on. Not everybody is as computer savvy as you or I. To some its like their car or other appliance. To them its not broken so why replace it. That's life in the slow lane.

I'm now using Win 8.1, but I was raised in the era if it's not broken why replace it. That is exactly how I feel about most things. Lots of seniors just can't afford it. This will be the last computer I will ever buy. People living on $1000.00 a month just can't afford new computers and that is why they will stick with Win XP until it want work any more.

I personally know people in that very scenario. They have more pressing things to spend what little money they have on.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
Some people don't have the money or the desire to upgrade their computer. I don't see where this makes them idiotic. I haven't found myself at a huge disadvantage because software vendors are holding back because people are way behind me.

It's just not a proper thing to do. I can understand if people don't have the money to upgrade, that's a perfectly valid excuse. What I find idiotic are the people why do buy new hardware and use an old outdated operating system to run it, THAT to me is idiotic, having no desire or no money isn't a stupid reason. In a way, it's like coding for Windows Phone 7 when everyone uses 8. You're reaching a VERY minute user base for what? Just because they use it and will use it for however long they will even though there are several options to upgrade that have been there for at least a year if not more, let alone the other slew of options to come with 8.1. It just makes no sense to me.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
Disregarding that, how idiotic do you have to be to use a 13 year old operating system on technology that didn't EVEN EXIST 13 years ago, such as APUs or SSDs?
...
Wow.
Wow indeed.
How idiotic does a corporation have to be to create an OS that is so hated, people would rather install a 13 year old obsolete OS?

Seriously right now. Those users are becoming a huge hindrance to software developers as instead of coding for Windows 7/8/8.1 or even vista, nope, they have code for an OS 13 years old on a completely different NT kernel version.
Developers should be writing code for operating systems that people (i.e. customers) are actually using.

Ummm...you can still use 7 if you want to. Or use 8 or 8.1 and do things with it to revert back to 7. That's not an excuse WHATSOEVER.

And you can say developers should write code for relevant platforms, but you can just say that. In reality, this is basically an impossibility. Microsoft can't develop IE 9/10/11 or xp because of the NT 5 kernel limitations and the way xp handles networking is so archaic compared to Windows vista even. They can't build in the new networking stack from 8 into xp because of the NT 5 kernel limitations. They can't add decent SSD support because again, NT 5 issues and lack of SuperFetch and Disk Optimizer services because again, NT 5 problems. They can't get Office 2013 easily able to be used on xp because of no SkyDrive support (cloud storage wasn't a thing in 2001) in system, and the way the OS handles program installations is just different than NT 6-6.2 kernel versions.

If it were that easy, it would have been done. But it's not that so cut and paste simple, that's why vista was made to address blatant security and certain performance flaws that STILL to this decade have barely been resolved or even yet to be patched. Obviously vista was a screw up, which is why they released Windows vista.1 and that fixed the main errors there.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
Ummm...you can still use 7 if you want to. Or use 8 or 8.1 and do things with it to revert back to 7. That's not an excuse WHATSOEVER.
Ridiculous.
People should be forced to buy operating systems that have your stamp of approval?

Believe it or not, some people don't like:
  • Vista
  • Windows 7
  • Windows 8
  • Windows 8.1
The fact that they are installing XP indicates that they have install discs and product keys (legitimate or otherwise).

And you can say developers should write code for relevant platforms, but you can just say that. In reality, this is basically an impossibility. Microsoft can't develop IE 9/10/11 or xp because of the NT 5 kernel limitations and the way xp handles networking is so archaic compared to Windows vista even.
That was a decision MS made to suit itself.
MS developed IE9 and made sure it wouldn't work on XP to try to force people to upgrade to Windows 7.

Google, Mozilla, Opera, etc. are able to create browsers that run on XP, Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1.
Strange that MS is incapable of doing it (they wrote the OS).

They can't get Office 2013 easily able to be used on xp because of no SkyDrive support (cloud storage wasn't a thing in 2001) in system, and the way the OS handles program installations is just different than NT 6-6.2 kernel versions.
That was another decision MS made to suit itself.
Why does anyone need SkyDrive (OneDrive) to write Word documents or create Excel spreadsheets?

If it were that easy, it would have been done. But it's not that so cut and paste simple, that's why vista was made to address blatant security and certain performance flaws that STILL to this decade have barely been resolved or even yet to be patched. Obviously vista was a screw up, which is why they released Windows vista.1 and that fixed the main errors there.
The story I read stated that the reason we got Vista, instead of Longhorn, was that when MS demonstrated it to a "select group" of people, they "freaked out" and as a result, MS hastily rewrote the entire thing and released it as Vista.

Another story suggested that Intel insisted that MS lower Vista's stated "minimum system requirements" (to suit Intel's agenda).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 18.3 MATE (64 bit)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    n/a
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3
    Memory
    8GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Ares F3-1333C9D-8GAO (4GB x 2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD6450
    Sound Card
    Realtek?
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S23B350
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA), Western Digital 2 TB (SATA), Western Digital 3 TB (SATA)
    Case
    Tower
    Mouse
    Wired Optical
    Other Info
    Linux Mint 16 MATE (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 17 MATE (64 bit) - 2014-05-17
    Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 16 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-11-13
    Ubuntu 10.04 (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-01-14
    RAM & Graphics Card Upgraded - 2013-01-13
    Monitor Upgraded - 2012-04-20
    System Upgraded - 2011-05-21, 2010-07-14
    HDD Upgraded - 2010-08-11, 2011-08-24,
Some people don't have the money or the desire to upgrade their computer. I don't see where this makes them idiotic. I haven't found myself at a huge disadvantage because software vendors are holding back because people are way behind me.

It's just not a proper thing to do. I can understand if people don't have the money to upgrade, that's a perfectly valid excuse. What I find idiotic are the people why do buy new hardware and use an old outdated operating system to run it, THAT to me is idiotic, having no desire or no money isn't a stupid reason. In a way, it's like coding for Windows Phone 7 when everyone uses 8. You're reaching a VERY minute user base for what? Just because they use it and will use it for however long they will even though there are several options to upgrade that have been there for at least a year if not more, let alone the other slew of options to come with 8.1. It just makes no sense to me.

Well, I would have to assume that these people must have a personal reason for putting an old OS onto a new computer. I certainly haven't had any desire to run XP since Windows 7. So, they must have a reason if they are willing to put in the effort, find the drivers and forego new functionality from the newer OS's. Wonder if it's simple stuff like UAC that they dislike so much they won't use it at all. Oh well, if they can get the old OS onto their computers, they can probably live without support and can recover from their problems.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built in July 2009
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Acer x233H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
Ummm...you can still use 7 if you want to. Or use 8 or 8.1 and do things with it to revert back to 7. That's not an excuse WHATSOEVER.
Ridiculous.
People should be forced to buy operating systems that have your stamp of approval?

Believe it or not, some people don't like:
  • Vista
  • Windows 7
  • Windows 8
  • Windows 8.1
The fact that they are installing XP indicates that they have install discs and product keys (legitimate or otherwise).

And you can say developers should write code for relevant platforms, but you can just say that. In reality, this is basically an impossibility. Microsoft can't develop IE 9/10/11 or xp because of the NT 5 kernel limitations and the way xp handles networking is so archaic compared to Windows vista even.
That was a decision MS made to suit itself.
MS developed IE9 and made sure it wouldn't work on XP to try to force people to upgrade to Windows 7.

Google, Mozilla, Opera, etc. are able to create browsers that run on XP, Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1.
Strange that MS is incapable of doing it (they wrote the OS).

They can't get Office 2013 easily able to be used on xp because of no SkyDrive support (cloud storage wasn't a thing in 2001) in system, and the way the OS handles program installations is just different than NT 6-6.2 kernel versions.
That was another decision MS made to suit itself.
Why does anyone need SkyDrive (OneDrive) to write Word documents or create Excel spreadsheets?

If it were that easy, it would have been done. But it's not that so cut and paste simple, that's why vista was made to address blatant security and certain performance flaws that STILL to this decade have barely been resolved or even yet to be patched. Obviously vista was a screw up, which is why they released Windows vista.1 and that fixed the main errors there.
The story I read stated that the reason we got Vista, instead of Longhorn, was that when MS demonstrated it to a "select group" of people, they "freaked out" and as a result, MS hastily rewrote the entire thing and released it as Vista.

Another story suggested that Intel insisted that MS lower Vista's stated "minimum system requirements" (to suit Intel's agenda).


Sometimes, I wish eight forums had a like button....
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Me
    CPU
    AMD FX-8150
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
    Memory
    8.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 (9-9-9-28)
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD 6570
    Sound Card
    Creative X-Fi Titanium
    Monitor(s) Displays
    PX2710MW
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1x1TB Western Digital WDC WD1001FALS-00J7B1 ATA Device Caviar Black -

    4 x 2TB Seagate ST32000542A -
    1 x 4TB Seagate External
    Case
    Antec
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D14
    Keyboard
    Logitech Illuminated Keyboard K740
    Internet Speed
    60meg cable
    Browser
    Cyberfox
    Antivirus
    AVG Security Suite
Ummm...you can still use 7 if you want to. Or use 8 or 8.1 and do things with it to revert back to 7. That's not an excuse WHATSOEVER.
Ridiculous.
People should be forced to buy operating systems that have your stamp of approval?

Believe it or not, some people don't like:
  • Vista
  • Windows 7
  • Windows 8
  • Windows 8.1
The fact that they are installing XP indicates that they have install discs and product keys (legitimate or otherwise).

And you can say developers should write code for relevant platforms, but you can just say that. In reality, this is basically an impossibility. Microsoft can't develop IE 9/10/11 or xp because of the NT 5 kernel limitations and the way xp handles networking is so archaic compared to Windows vista even.
That was a decision MS made to suit itself.
MS developed IE9 and made sure it wouldn't work on XP to try to force people to upgrade to Windows 7.

Google, Mozilla, Opera, etc. are able to create browsers that run on XP, Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1.
Strange that MS is incapable of doing it (they wrote the OS).

They can't get Office 2013 easily able to be used on xp because of no SkyDrive support (cloud storage wasn't a thing in 2001) in system, and the way the OS handles program installations is just different than NT 6-6.2 kernel versions.
That was another decision MS made to suit itself.
Why does anyone need SkyDrive (OneDrive) to write Word documents or create Excel spreadsheets?

If it were that easy, it would have been done. But it's not that so cut and paste simple, that's why vista was made to address blatant security and certain performance flaws that STILL to this decade have barely been resolved or even yet to be patched. Obviously vista was a screw up, which is why they released Windows vista.1 and that fixed the main errors there.
The story I read stated that the reason we got Vista, instead of Longhorn, was that when MS demonstrated it to a "select group" of people, they "freaked out" and as a result, MS hastily rewrote the entire thing and released it as Vista.

Another story suggested that Intel insisted that MS lower Vista's stated "minimum system requirements" (to suit Intel's agenda).
Umm...no, where did I ever say I'm forcing anyone to buy anything that I approve of? Excuse me if I don't believe a 13 year old operating system shouldn't be bought or sold anymore when there is a proven version that more people use than anything combined as well as another that expands features of the last one even further.

So let me ask you this, if you were the lead engineer in the Windows division, you would literally say to everyone, "Hey guys, let's take Windows xp, build it onto the NT 6 kernel, and sell it to everyone as the new Windows!" I don't know about you, but that's a HUGE waste of time and energy just to keep an operating system that was improved (to very limited extents) with vista and vastly improved with 7. There is no need for a "better" Windows xp, vista, 7, 8, and 8.1 are the "better" versions of xp.

And besides, if you don't know the fact that IE is a different beast than chrome, firefox, safari, and opera by now; you should really do some research about how IE is a very deep system level component and not a side program that can just be loaded willy nilly just like that. Microsoft JUST recently fixed the svchost.exe issue in xp that slammed the CPU resources to 100% because there was an issue pertaining to Internet Explorer 8. Maybe Microsoft decided IE 9 shouldn't be made for xp to force people to switch, I don't blame them. They'd need to take an operating system where the Intel P4 processor was the i7 of the day and GPU acceleration was non-existent and build a system browser to use technology that the operating system can't properly support nor handle.

As for OneDrive formally SkyDrive, no, you don't need it for Office documents, but people like me that have 60+ gigs of OneDrive storage where a vast majority of that is taken up by pictures as well as a backup method for my documents, that becomes a big deal of whether or not I can easily and efficiently access those files without using run-around solutions and methods.

The well known story about vista and Longhorn was that when they were initially building Longhorn, they were still using xp and the NT 5 kernel as the base to build from as normal, but since the that kernel version dates back to pre-2000, all the technologies they were adding like file indexing, WinFS, Palladium security technology, major .NET enhancements, and libraries among other things; using xp as the base soon became known from the constant stream of milestone builds that it was terribly unstable, buggy, and required a high standard to even operate decently (part of which was later vista). Instead of using xp, they threw out Longhorn and built off Windows Server 2003 as it was found be to solid enough, and became vista. If you ever took a peak at the early vista builds, it was in fact Server 2003 and a new kernel revision being used.
http://winsupersite.com/article/faqtip/windows-longhorn-faq
On a side note, it's interesting how Windows 8 and Longhorn seem to have similar parallels such as, Longhorn would have been delivered to OEMs and consumers about a year later after xp's release because people didn't really care for xp at the time.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
Why would I use OneDrive

As for OneDrive formally SkyDrive, no, you don't need it for Office documents, but people like me that have 60+ gigs of OneDrive storage where a vast majority of that is taken up by pictures as well as a backup method for my documents, that becomes a big deal of whether or not I can easily and efficiently access those files without using run-around solutions and methods.

I fail to understand the usefulness of cloud storage, when I can use software like TeamViewer and access my computers from any where. I already have massive amounts of storage on my local machines.

Plus, why would I trust any company with my personal data, and why would I add an additional monthly expense, just to rent space. What am I missing that makes the cloud so advantageous.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win8,Win7,XP
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY. Acer ,iBuypower,Epson printer
    CPU
    i5, i3. AMD
    Motherboard
    all sorts
    Memory
    2 to 8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    different on all
    Sound Card
    on board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung displays and TV's
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    14 in all
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    Hp, Logitech, Acer and MS
    Mouse
    Hp, Logitech, Acer and MS
    Internet Speed
    Comcast ( 30mbps average download, 5mbps upload)
    Browser
    Chrome, Firefox and IE 10 and 11
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Security Essentials, MalawareBytes and Kaspersky
    Other Info
    also have Apple iphones, AT&T and Tracfone services
^^^
What am I missing that makes the cloud so advantageous

Their cloud (and windows 8), it's not designed to be advantageous to you, it's for Microsoft, dreaming of collecting lotsa cash and user information :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W8.1, W7
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP \ Toshiba \ Lenovo \ Dell E7440
    Browser
    FF
Cloud storage can be convenient. I use to store it some of my electronic books, music, and the like. I just never keep anything personal on it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 + StartIsBack + AeroGlass
    Computer type
    Laptop
Move to XP, ? Where from ???
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD
Oh, man I tried so hard to stay out of this but keeping my mouth shut has never been a virtue of mine! I've got to agree with Coke Robot on this, especially in light of my own experiences in being the go-to computer guy for family, friends and colleagues alike. Even money isn't as much of a factor as it has been in versions past...look how much less expensive 8 is. In my opinion, it comes down to people getting so used to the way things have always been (can you imagine THAT user in DOS6 trying to figure out what IRQ the new printer is using?)...Win 8/1 is (or was) groundbreaking, forward thinking...and yes, people...DIFFERENT!


But time and again I see those same people, after as little as a week or two not even realizing how much more adept they've become as an end user, because this OS has something none has before and that's an inherent sense of intuitiveness. If what worked in XP isn't there, just ask yourself, I tell folks, where SHOULD this feature be or how would you do _______ and 9 times out of 10, they're spot on. Change is good...lest we all would still be driving Pintos and wearing plaid pants!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro and Win 8.1 RT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self
    CPU
    AMD Athlon III
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Tech
    Memory
    8gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GForce 550ti
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x HP w19
    Screen Resolution
    1440 * 900
    Hard Drives
    4 x 2TB
    PSU
    1500 watt
    Case
    Diablotek
    Cooling
    Air
    Keyboard
    MS 7000
    Mouse
    MS 7000
    Internet Speed
    10 x 2
    Browser
    Chrome most often
    Antivirus
    MSSE
As for OneDrive formally SkyDrive, no, you don't need it for Office documents, but people like me that have 60+ gigs of OneDrive storage where a vast majority of that is taken up by pictures as well as a backup method for my documents, that becomes a big deal of whether or not I can easily and efficiently access those files without using run-around solutions and methods.

I fail to understand the usefulness of cloud storage, when I can use software like TeamViewer and access my computers from any where. I already have massive amounts of storage on my local machines.

Plus, why would I trust any company with my personal data, and why would I add an additional monthly expense, just to rent space. What am I missing that makes the cloud so advantageous.

Why would I trust four hard drives of 3 TB+ per drive to hold some of my most valuable data? I don't, as that's why I like it so much and put a ring on it and back it up somewhere. Cloud storage at least with Microsoft means they have hard drives upon hard drives in RAID arrays on their giant servers somewhere where they, I think, have said they even store copies of your copy on them so in the event of their hard drives failing; there is still a copy retrievable (probably means they use Storage Spaces with the most redundant method with Windows Server). I could do that right now personally and throw things into a Storage Space pool, but then it means I ALWAYS have to have my main station running all day everyday in the off chance sometime in the week to access those files remotely. That means a monthly electric bill that is higher than I'd ever like it for something I'd need from time to time let alone the increased wear and tear on my hard drives.

A yearly rent of 25 dollars for 50 gigs of cloud storage that I can access quite easily on my PC and Windows Phone without using remote desktop connections on a small screen, knowing that they simply have much vast resources than I do in keeping data stored, it's kind of a no-brainer. Keeping precious documents and pictures saved on cloud storage is better than having all methods of local storage die, get lost, or break down. Cloud is just another backup method.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
    Cooling
    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Touch Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
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