I don't use any third party program to add back the traditional start menu, never have and never will. I have no problem using 8 the way it was designed.
I have no problems with it either. I just find it to be less convenient than 7 - at least on the desktop. Got back to using keyboard shortcuts again. Where is the progress.
I do boot to desktop, I have my everyday programs pined to the taskbar. Other regularly used programs, and Metro Apps I do use, are on my Start Screen. On my desktop PC I run my metro apps on one monitor, IE usually on my main screen and outlook on the third. I'm retired and have simple needs. I don't do spread sheets or other heavy multi tasking. I game some and cruise the forums. I don't know if its a factor but I use a trackball, even with my laptop. I find navigation easy. I'm slowly training myself to use the search so I don't end up looking for something on the All Apps screen. I find that screen a bit cluttered.
I don't use toolbars, not that there is anything wrong with using them, I just don't. Well not on the desktop anyway. I do use the Favorites Bar in IE for the web sites I go to everyday like these forums.
Nevermind all the selling out to NSA and things like that in 8, I simply dislike how there is no Aero and MS kinda fooled everyone into thinking that flatter is better, just because they needed to in order to keep power consumption lower on mobile devices.
I have a machine with a broken AGP graphics port. Only 64 MB memory is available to the onboard vga and the VIA driver will not support Aero. It pisses me off every time I use it and don't see it lol. None of the published hacks work in 7, heh heh.
Internet Explorer 11 in Win 8.1 on my PC would not run consistently unless the DNS address in the Ethernet properties was set manually. Microsoft tech support acknowledged this to be a known issue. But the DNS address they gave me only worked spasmodically at best. After finding an alternative address configuration in another forum, it runs seamless.
Putting aside the Start Menu, the average Joe in the street is not interested in changing DNS addresses to make a browser work, He wants it to work straight out of the box!
M$ paint you into a corner saying you must upgrade from Win 8 ... where IE10 works fine ... to 8.1 to continue to get updates after the due date. But then IE11 is forced on you ... a browser that doesn't work properly.
And yes, I've got all the latest updates for W8, and they don't fix the problem. And my ADSL internet server is Telstra ... Australia's biggest carrier.
I have started experimenting with Apple and recently bought an iPhone IOS7, 5s at a cost of $1,000 ... which is a 64bit OS. And I had to wait a month before stocks became available. When they first came out several months ago, you simply couldn't buy them as stocks in shops were pre-sold months ahead.
The thing I don't like about Apple is you can't build your own rig. So that leaves Windows 9 ... we hope!
Last edited by Mustang; 22 Jan 2014 at 06:51.
My PC is not a tablet. It's as simple as that. I want a traditional desktop launcher back (it doesn't need to be the old Start menu), i want Aero back, I want absolutely all options to be available from the traditional desktop control panel. I don't mind them giving the choice of running Metro apps, as long as I don't have to see anything Metro related unless I want to.
MS doesn't care. They just feel that getting their users used to Metro will help them sell more tablets.