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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemix View Post
    .... I'll just wait for Windows 8.2 with a real start menu and a desktop experience no different than Windows 7...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank1 View Post
    This is what I believe about missing the start button: Let's try to imagine that when MS came out with Windows 95 if it would have had the same interface as Windows 8 has now; and if all the newer editions had the same. Then after all these years, MS came out with what they called Windows 8 and the interface was exactly like Windows 7, everyone would be saying things like, "What happened to the tiles! I miss the tiles and wish they would come back." I believe that it's human nature. When we are used to doing things a certain way for a number of years, it's hard to change.
    I said this as well before in another thread.
    It's strange, XP was the bane of MS, and going to kill the company, never gonna use it, what a waste
    Now, OMG, I have to leave XP? What, I Love XP, it's the best, Vista blows, 7 isn't worth upgrading to, Windows 8 is a joke.......
    ptttthhhhtttt, the naysayers can keep flappin their chops, as they are not saying anything new....
    Win9 will get the same treatment.....as will 10 and 11 and 12......

    You know what would be awesome,, is to have Windows 8 be around for 10 years like XP has been,,,, then drop Win9 with a Win95 GUI
    Let's see how much complaining there would most definitely be after that. That I would love to see.


    On a side note: the articles posted are pure speculation, is there anything official, or more official than this?

    Also seeing rumors of App Store unification between Phone, Surface, PC and possibly XboxOne? the way it should be. This would be good.
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    I hate Windows 8.1, Imagine MS pushed out XP and now Win 7 will be going out, to be replaced by this Win 8.1 of the future, causing us loads of problems. MS is lost somehow. I wonder how to fix my problems with wireless adapters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBill View Post
    So are these just rumors? I mean, it would be nice if the article is correct, but I would think if the start menu were really returning we'd see it posted all over the tech news websites.
    I don't think, however intense your browsing, you will find a single comment on this from the original source (Microsoft)

    But where there is smoke there is fire. My own theory is, that with Wndows 9 a lot closer than we expected, 8.2 is only a build for windows 9.
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    Hi there
    this might be good news for consumers / home users but obviously it's NOT a good idea for people who have to maintain corporate networks / applications.

    Ms is trying to get the last vestigial corporate giants to switch from XP -- so far only Windows 7 fits the bill -- it's stable, predictable and doesn't have changes either real or "rumoured" every two or three months -- I can't imagine what's happened to anybody in the I.T dept who recommended upgrading to Windows 8 -- then Windows 8.1 appeared and now possibly windows 8.2.

    Of course Ms doesn't want Windows 7 to become "the new XP" (as a thread on the forums recently called it) - but unless you are in a place which advocates the use of BYOD's would you upgrade to a "permanently changing (surely a contradiction In terms ???) environment" . Businesses can't just put in an OS on a Monday morning and change it two hours later -- all sorts of corporate software and large DB applications have to be properly tested - this can take A LOT of time.

    Too many people forget the business environment - home users can chop and change OS'es at will - businesses can't.

    Maybe Ms should re-brand Windows into 3 distinct flavours -- MOBILE (tablets, phones etc), HOME (or consumer) and BUSINESS.

    Releases could then be different and each specifically tailored for the desired environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Maybe Ms should re-brand Windows into 3 distinct flavours -- MOBILE (tablets, phones etc), HOME (or consumer) and BUSINESS.
    That would be a good idea (and what they should have done with Windows 8 in the first place) as long as we are allowed to choose any version for our own PCs (i.e. no stupid license restrictions).
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    Jimbo, you are on the money. I work for global corporation, over 200K employees. Our IT department is around 95K. We are just now going to Windows 7. I imagine we'll be on it for at least the next 3-5 years. Like most corporations, we have a lot of vertical applications, including hundreds, if not thousands, of homegrown applications. It literally costs millions of dollars to do all the testing, re-coding, and upgrading of all the software. This is not something companies just do. It's only done when they have to. Heck, our Windows 7 systems are still on IE9 because of homespun web apps and built in security interfaces into the browser. (We're a financial company.)

    As you say, Microsoft's accelerated development cycle maybe great for consumers, but not so much corporate America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBill View Post
    Jimbo, you are on the money. I work for global corporation, over 200K employees. Our IT department is around 95K. We are just now going to Windows 7. I imagine we'll be on it for at least the next 3-5 years. Like most corporations, we have a lot of vertical applications, including hundreds, if not thousands, of homegrown applications. It literally costs millions of dollars to do all the testing, re-coding, and upgrading of all the software. This is not something companies just do. It's only done when they have to. Heck, our Windows 7 systems are still on IE9 because of homespun web apps and built in security interfaces into the browser. (We're a financial company.)

    As you say, Microsoft's accelerated development cycle maybe great for consumers, but not so much corporate America.


    Hi there.

    I do quite a lot of "gigs" in different countries -- a lot allow you to BYOD. The solution that has worked unfailingly for me was to create a Windows to Go (formerly 8, now 8.1) on an external SSD device so response time is perfectly acceptable and then bring up a Windows 7 Virtual machine which runs nearly every piece of corporate software I've encountered -- on the rare occasions when something doesn't work then bringing up an XP VM or a different version of W7 with say IE9 installed rather than IE10 or IE11 usually does the trick -- although IE10 is actually good since you can by pressing F12 get it to run in any "back level" version of IE - even I think back as far as IE6 in compatibility mode.

    Pity this feature was removed in IE11 -- it was quite good being able to specify WHICH version of IE compatibility mode you wanted your application to run in.

    IMHO the idea of using VM's especially with BYOD devices could be a neat way over a giant corporate headache with all these different flavours of Windows.


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    Actually, I agree. Outside of BYOD, Win7 is the new XP. I don't foresee Windows 8 or Win9 heavily in the corporate world anytime soon, unless there are some major changes.

    but, I also don't think MS ever planned for Windows 8 in the corporate place right away.
    It's a new direction for computing, this will be played out more on the consumer side.

    As for BYOD, it's more about Remote virtualization (VDI) on a corporate server with less hardware support overhead
    here are requirements, if you don't meet them, your on your own. Actually more, it's your hardware, we support trying to get you connect but that's it
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    For us VM's are being tested as is BYOD. In our little financial niche of the world though, security is everything. So these changes are happening very slowly. Obviously BYOD can introduce a lot of risk. Offshore and near shore our offices have high security protocols, not to mention the infrastructure issues with those countries once you get outside the compounds, so BYOD is unlikely to occur there anytime soon. That said, as you note, they could still have a terminal station boot up to the VM. It could be running anything from Linux to Windows and do a straight boot to the VM. I'm sure as time goes on we'll see more of this as it is a much more cost effective solution, assuming you pony up the money for hot swap overs should your VM server fail.
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