The "start menu replacements" do not solve anything. They do mask the larger issue though.
What larger issue, you ask... Simple. The larger issue is that all the current desktop apps may eventually be phased out, leaving us with only tifkam apps.... and that would be a freakin' tragedy, an actual disaster of epic proportions....
Yes, I know some really like the metro stuff, but a majority do not, regardless of how shiny and new they may seem. Metro will never match the power of the desktop. It's not meant to. All metro was meant to do, was to squeeze more money out of the people.
I just find it sad that some folks just don't seem to see that they're being conned....
I do, but the thread is about an evaluation of Windows 8.1, not some bleak vision of the future that currently exists only in your mind.
Guys everyone is entitled to their own opinions but in a respectful manner please
What may be upsetting for a lot of people is the fact that MS has not stated either way, so all are left in limbo wondering what is to be next. All in all, it is a massive change for many to cope with, especially with the addition of the Start Screen and All Apps vs the Start Menu.
Correct me if I'm wrong > Many of us in the pre-RTM days opened up some of the Store apps only to be disappointed either by their use and/or stability. It was not a good "first impression". Admittedly I think they really stunk at first, but I found that with time via updates they became rather useable with added features and in stability. I am now using at least a half dozen of them on a daily basis and find them very useful.
Anywho, I'll challenge those who did not have a good "first impression" to go back and try them again. I think one needs to learn the whole system, including the Store apps, to rightfully evaluate and judge the system. I'm speaking in today's condition, not yesterday's, especially with the release of 8.1 with its many configuration options.
When I'm using my Vz/Android smart phone, I enter a walled-garden system. I do not own any of the Apple products, but I know some that do and from what I read one enters a walled-garden system. I would imagine it's the same with other systems. They are all swaying/pushing us to use their products and/or services.
Therefore > Welcome to the new way of the > walled-garden > touch-centric > mobile/fixed > cloud-centric > service-oriented means of computing. I believe this is the direction MS is moving in as I see they all are.
So as djsigma stated > If you don't like any or all of it and you can't configure it the way you want it to be, then I suggest that you not support it and move on. It seems like a waste of time to me. But, hey > that's just me.
Right, but do you really expect them to lay out a long term vision of the future right now? Of course not. Their vision is not set in stone even in the short term, as you can see by the return of the Start button in 8.1. But we're not just talking about the removal/return of a simple button here. We're talking about the potential removal of the entire desktop, which would instantly make all desktop software going back many years unusable.Originally Posted by HiippsieGypsie
A walled garden only gets you so far. It has certain advantages to the end user, such as security and stability, but it reduces choice. The beauty of open systems is that I can write a piece of software, upload it, and you can download and run it on your machine. With a desktop operating system, that is vital functionality for a large number of people, including being vital to enterprise.Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie
I do think people are basing their vision of the future on what the Metro part of Windows 8 or 8.1 is like now, so they think "imagine if Windows 9 was just this, but without the desktop". That would be awful, but that's not going to happen. Over time, the UI and usability quirks will be smoothed out, new features will be added, more apps will be added to the store that cater to people's needs and those apps will improve over time too, but even when we get to a point where there are people who will happily use only Metro apps, there will still be a need for the desktop. At worst, I see it becoming an optional component.
Think of the song just before the one where you got your nick from.(which I'm assuming is from the song "Going Mobile")
Microsoft Is Still Obsessed with the Windows 8.1 Start ButtonWhile the video presented the key features of the new tablet, a Start Menu also showed up in the left corner of the screen all of a sudden. It was a Start Menu app bringing the familiar feature back on Windows 8. In an official Microsoft video, that is.
The company was quick to remove the video, saying that it was all just a mistake of an employee who forgot to remove the app before shooting the clip. There’s no doubt someone lost his job at Microsoft this morning.
But what this unfortunate incident is actually showing is that some Microsoft employees do not really agree with the company’s new direction.
Since the Softies themselves don’t like the 8.1 Start button and turn to third-party Start Menu app, why shouldn’t we?