Join Date : Aug 2009
Posts : 9,518
WCP / Win.7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1.
Where is Microsoft Heading with Windows 8?
With the entire tech world buzzing about the Windows Developer Preview for Windows 8, everyone is wondering what Microsoft is exactly planning with the early versions of Windows 8. And then, even when someone has a valid idea of Microsoft’s strategy...
System Manufacturer/Model Number LAPTOP. HP Pavilion dv7-4010TX . OS WCP / Win.7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1. CPU Intel i7 -720QM.[1.6GHz Turbo Boost 2.8GHz. 6MB Cache.] Memory 8 DDR 3 RAM. 1066MHZ Graphics Card ATI 1024 MB. DDR3. Radeon HD5650 Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" High Definition Brightview LCD. LED Backlit. Screen Resolution 1600 x 900.
Keyboard Does the keyboardless Laptop exist? Mouse Logitech Anywhere mouse. MX. Case Laptop / notebook. Cooling Of course.Cooler Master 3 fan with various speeds. Hard Drives 640GB Internet Speed Too slow. Other Info Nunya...
"Unfortunately, not all devices will be able to handle Windows “legacy” programs, despite the desktop app. Any devices running on ARM architecture (as opposed to x86) will only be able to support Metro apps."
It seems Microsoft is getting lazy with programing.
System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @5.00 GHz Motherboard ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z LGA 1155 Memory 2 x Corsair Dominator 2GB DDR3 @1866 (Old DDR3 1600 Sticks, plan to upgrade) Graphics Card ATI 4850 (I know it's old, plan to upgrade, taking donations) Sound Card Realtek ALC889 Monitor(s) Displays Sony Bravia KDL-32EX500 Screen Resolution 1980x1080P
Keyboard HP Wireless Elite Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Elite Mouse PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Case Corsair 800D Cooling Corsair H80 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler Hard Drives 1 x Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F60GBGT-BK Windows
2 x Western Digital Caviar Black Sata III 750GB (Raid 0)Programs
1 x Western Digital Caviar Black Sata III 1TB - Media
2 x Western Digital Caviar Black Sata II 640GB (Raid 0) Mac OS X Internet Speed DSL, VisionTek Bigfoot Killer 2100 Gaming Network Card and Internaly Installed Linksys WUSB600N Other Info 4 x GELID Solutions FN-TX12-15 120mm Case Fan with Superior Temperature Control
1 x Corsair 140mm Case Fan
1 x SilverStone FP55B Aluminum front panel 5.25" to a 3.5" bay converter
1 x Ultra Card Reader
1 x Sony Blu-ray Burner BD-5300S-0B
1 x 2GB Internaly Installed Flash Drive For Mac OS X Boot
1 x Internal USB 3.0 Header to 2 USB 3.0 Female Adaptor
1 x ATI TV Wonder™ Digital Cable Tuner
It seems Microsoft is getting lazy with programing.
Lazy or realistic? They're already biting off a fair bit - they still have to support it all. Adding another layer could potentially compromise quality in other areas.
It could be also be part of the 'The PC is Dead' masterplan we keep hearing about
Join Date : Jan 2011
Posts : 538
Windows 8, x64, DP8102 - Win7 Ultimate x64, Dual Boot
Originally Posted by SmartEyeball
Originally Posted by Beta
It seems Microsoft is getting lazy with programing.
Lazy or realistic? They're already biting off a fair bit - they still have to support it all. Adding another layer could potentially compromise quality in other areas.
It could be also be part of the 'The PC is Dead' masterplan we keep hearing about
I doubt it. It's working great on my PC. There is no "master plan."
The last thing MS wants to do is kill off the PC.
Promote the "cloud?" Perhaps.
But they're still gonna need the PC even if we all have tablets, smartphones and/or slates as well.
At least for the next five years anyway - maybe more.
Chiropractors are gonna make a lot of money fixing the knees jerking under desks regarding all of the disinfomation and supposition floating around about Win8 - I think I should change professions.
I think the direction is pretty clear: They want to make money off the portable devices world. In addition it is obvious that the ARM processors will penetrate the PC market too. So they have to be prepared for that.
Touchscreens in the PC world will propably remain the exception. In fact you can see tablets comeing out with proper keyboards.
Join Date : Jan 2010
Cromer, Norfolk, UK
Posts : 74
Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 and Windows 8 build 7955
Originally Posted by Beta
"Unfortunately, not all devices will be able to handle Windows “legacy” programs, despite the desktop app. Any devices running on ARM architecture (as opposed to x86) will only be able to support Metro apps."
It seems Microsoft is getting lazy with programing.
Wasn't this debunked a few months back? My understanding was that someone at Intel said this, and MS said it was bullcrap.
System Manufacturer/Model Number Packard Bell B2218UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 and Windows 8 build 7955 CPU Intel Celeron E1400 2.0GHz Motherboard Packard Bell "Denver 10" (modified ECS GF7050VT-M5) Memory 3GB DDR2 667MHZ DIMM Graphics Card Nvidia 7050/610i Sound Card Realtek On board sound Monitor(s) Displays Acer Al1980 Screen Resolution 1280*768
Keyboard Alba USB (Argos) Mouse Harry Potter PS/2 Optical PSU Packard Bell Case Packard Bell Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500GB SATA II WBC
160GB SATA II Hitachi Internet Speed 7Mb/s Down (6.5 Thoroughput) 448Kbps Up (370 thoroughput)
It seems Microsoft is getting lazy with programing.
Lazy or realistic? They're already biting off a fair bit - they still have to support it all. Adding another layer could potentially compromise quality in other areas.
It could be also be part of the 'The PC is Dead' masterplan we keep hearing about
"Compromise Quality" that’s what I am saying! Have a quality OS would mean that they should be able to emulate pc architecture on an ARM chip. Wait there is another OS maker that does that... let me think... I think they are called Apple. That’s right. They allowed Power PC chip programs to run on Intel chips and the user never knew the difference. Please do not try to justify being lazy for Microsoft.
System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @5.00 GHz Motherboard ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z LGA 1155 Memory 2 x Corsair Dominator 2GB DDR3 @1866 (Old DDR3 1600 Sticks, plan to upgrade) Graphics Card ATI 4850 (I know it's old, plan to upgrade, taking donations) Sound Card Realtek ALC889 Monitor(s) Displays Sony Bravia KDL-32EX500 Screen Resolution 1980x1080P
Keyboard HP Wireless Elite Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Elite Mouse PSU Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850 Case Corsair 800D Cooling Corsair H80 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler Hard Drives 1 x Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F60GBGT-BK Windows
2 x Western Digital Caviar Black Sata III 750GB (Raid 0)Programs
1 x Western Digital Caviar Black Sata III 1TB - Media
2 x Western Digital Caviar Black Sata II 640GB (Raid 0) Mac OS X Internet Speed DSL, VisionTek Bigfoot Killer 2100 Gaming Network Card and Internaly Installed Linksys WUSB600N Other Info 4 x GELID Solutions FN-TX12-15 120mm Case Fan with Superior Temperature Control
1 x Corsair 140mm Case Fan
1 x SilverStone FP55B Aluminum front panel 5.25" to a 3.5" bay converter
1 x Ultra Card Reader
1 x Sony Blu-ray Burner BD-5300S-0B
1 x 2GB Internaly Installed Flash Drive For Mac OS X Boot
1 x Internal USB 3.0 Header to 2 USB 3.0 Female Adaptor
1 x ATI TV Wonder™ Digital Cable Tuner
Join Date : Aug 2011
Posts : 624
Windows 8 Consumer Preview x64
For a bit I thought that during the D9? conference when Microsoft first unveiled 8, they had a touch screen running Office 2010. Then I realized that it was connected to a desktop....
It's not lazy programming, it's more a significant architecture change up for Windows. 32 bit programs can't run on ARM, they just can't. It's like trying to get a printer that only works in 64 bit Windows working on a 32 bit version. It just won't happen. And coding in a buffer layer to make it work is simply unrealistic.
System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS OS Windows 8 Consumer Preview x64 CPU AMD Athlon 240 Motherboard M4A78LT-M LE Memory 6 gig DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 3000 Screen Resolution 1440x900
Keyboard Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard Mouse Microsoft Touch Mouse PSU OCZ 500 watt Case rebuilt and redesigned Dell Dimension 4550 case Cooling Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes Hard Drives 500 gig Seagate drive
250 gig Western Digital drive Other Info In current transition from Windows 7 technologies to future Windows 8 technologies...
Join Date : Oct 2011
Australia
Posts : 585
Windows 8 Dev Preview x64
Originally Posted by Coke Robot
It's not lazy programming, it's more a significant architecture change up for Windows.
And isn't it this kind of change up that will keep them ahead of the competition? I mean, look at all the progress we've made towards a x64 only architecture... It wouldn't make much sense to stop now, would it?
Join Date : Aug 2011
Posts : 624
Windows 8 Consumer Preview x64
Originally Posted by Avalon
Originally Posted by Coke Robot
It's not lazy programming, it's more a significant architecture change up for Windows.
And isn't it this kind of change up that will keep them ahead of the competition? I mean, look at all the progress we've made towards a x64 only architecture... It wouldn't make much sense to stop now, would it?
No, but the benefits of running tablets on ARM processors are much greater than running them on 32 bit processors. They need to go, 32 bit processors. Oh gosh! more than 10 years of running systems on 32 bit!
System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS OS Windows 8 Consumer Preview x64 CPU AMD Athlon 240 Motherboard M4A78LT-M LE Memory 6 gig DDR3 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 3000 Screen Resolution 1440x900
Keyboard Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard Mouse Microsoft Touch Mouse PSU OCZ 500 watt Case rebuilt and redesigned Dell Dimension 4550 case Cooling Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes Hard Drives 500 gig Seagate drive
250 gig Western Digital drive Other Info In current transition from Windows 7 technologies to future Windows 8 technologies...