More than half of Windows 8 users just treat it like Win 7

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Now you've upset the apple cart!
 

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Hopefully Microsoft hasn't spent too much effort polishing up its bundled TIFKAM apps, though – because, honestly, no one will notice. ®

Sounds like I will not be Dl Window 8.1 what a waste of time.
 

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Haven't been able to find any good news. At least this is funny :
Put bluntly, it would be fair to say that most desktop PC users never use Microsoft's vaunted new UI at all – or they only do so when they absolutely have to.

..they avoid the Start Screen like a leper wearing a loud shirt

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More than half of Windows 8 users just treat it like Windows 7 ? The Register

Agree... the only tile I use from the Metro start screen is the Desktop tile... :p
 

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That is exactly how I use Windows 8. I actually now prefer Windows 8 to 7 for most machines because of the much improved boot speeds. Also like having OEM keys built right into the BIOS. But it's very hard to tell that I am not on 7.
 

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Also like having OEM keys built right into the BIOS. But it's very hard to tell that I am not on 7.

The only problem with that is when the mother board goes bad M$ will sell you a new license.
 

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Now you've upset the apple cart!

See, it's lines like this that makes me think you hate windows 8. You keep caricaturizing what people like me are saying.

I think it is a good thing that half the people out there only use the desktop portion of windows 8. It's called CHOICE. If people are happier with the desktop, more power to them. I'm very happy for them. I want CHOICES. I don't want to force anyone to do anything. Windows 8 gives you a CHOICE to either use the new UI or stay with the old. Installing classic shell is perhaps the easiest thing in the world, and it's free.

Why do you hate CHOICE?
 

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Once again you make some almighty assumptions about people. Microsoft hasn't given you a choice. You only get an option by installing a third party program that gives back what Microsoft has taken away. Why is it so difficult to understand the meaning of choice?
 

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Once again you make some almighty assumptions about people. Microsoft hasn't given you a choice. You only get an option by installing a third party program that gives back what Microsoft has taken away. Why is it so difficult to understand the meaning of choice?
Well, having that third party program IS a choice. Had MS really wanted to take the choice from you, they would have written the OS in such a way to prevent any start menu from ever resurfacing.

Let me ask you this. On your personal PC, how many third party programs do you use? Or are you one of those that refuses to install anything third party and whine about the lack of choice?
 

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Have used 8 for several months, never know start screen is there till I need to use it. I actually found some uses in there, I like the search, and I actually tried a radio program and have used it several times this week. If and when I find some use for the apps offered I might even use it more!

As far as most of my use I wouldn't know I don't have 7 on my main unit. I would like to find some uses so I could use my touchscreen :) which I seldom remember is there.
 

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Well, having that third party program IS a choice. Had MS really wanted to take the choice from you, they would have written the OS in such a way to prevent any start menu from ever resurfacing.

Let me ask you this. On your personal PC, how many third party programs do you use? Or are you one of those that refuses to install anything third party and whine about the lack of choice?

Microsoft actually did remove the choice from one of the preview versions when some smart cookie found a way to bring back the start menu via a registry edit. It subsequently required third party programmers to develop a workaround because of the demand for the start menu. There is nothing saying that Microsoft won't do the same with the third party programs, as they all apparently work from within Windows Explorer Shell or some such.

In your question, you are confusing third party programs that return an OS feature removed by Microsoft (or you're being deliberately disingenuous) and comparing them with third party programs that provide features that are supported/only function via an OS. It's a completely different issue.
 
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Too right. I never, ever go into the Start screen anymore (Start8, thank you!). The apps there are just abbreviated versions of what I can get much better on a web page. Even my ModermMix from Stardock is not getting used.
Someone commented on the search but once you have used Directory Opus you can never go back.
 

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I use windows 8 on my main home pc now.. but I use it only in desktop mode. installed Start is back (windows 7 start menu restore) set up to boot directly to desktop. and I never use modern ui and appz unless I have to and thank god that is rarely.

I like improvements in windows 8 its faster and more slick and I like file explorer ribbon ui, new file copy/move etc optimizations.

But modern ui and apps is just not suited for my work flow. I'm usually multitasking, so I always need to see taskbar and other open windows (like Skype video chat, progress of some compilation or rendering, video player window and start menu all at the same time :) ). so full screen menu is not a good thing for me I prefer start menu that takes around 20-30% of my work space and programs that have windows so I can resize them not to fixed 75:25 or even 50:50 but to any location and size I like.

If I want single task only multitasking I have my android phone with small screen, thank you.
 

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Nice 'journalism' there.

Whatever.
 

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Well, having that third party program IS a choice.

Henry Ford was known for "any colour as long as it is black"
Of course, it was possible to get tin of paint and a brush and paint it yourself. You have an interesting idea of offering choice in product.

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Had MS really wanted to take the choice from you, they would have written the OS in such a way to prevent any start menu from ever resurfacing.

They did prevent the registry hack they knew many were using. They also removed much of the start menu code from shell32. According to Thurrotts contacts at MS, that was deliberate.

Now they know so many are using programs which can still function, in spite of what they have done. They dare not deliberately stop them. There would be an outcry. MS must also realise by now the 3rd party shell/start menu programs are actually helping them.
 
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If you are going to post something absurd, you could at least try and make it funny, as opposed to crass.
 

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Now you've upset the apple cart!

See, it's lines like this that makes me think you hate windows 8. You keep caricaturizing what people like me are saying.

I think it is a good thing that half the people out there only use the desktop portion of windows 8. It's called CHOICE. If people are happier with the desktop, more power to them. I'm very happy for them. I want CHOICES. I don't want to force anyone to do anything. Windows 8 gives you a CHOICE to either use the new UI or stay with the old. Installing classic shell is perhaps the easiest thing in the world, and it's free.

Why do you hate CHOICE?

We didn't have CHOICE. MS did not offer any choice. We are FORCED to use 3rd party app to put Win 8 in good use. It would be very nice of MS if, when you use the PC for the first time, they will ask you to select if you are using a Touchscreen or not and then install the appropriate UI (ex. Start menu on non-touchscreens). That, my friend is a choice.
 

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Mr Squiggle

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I love the fact that, while I don't remember ever seeing the term "TIFKAM" before, I understood what it meant.

Kudos to a certain prolific and quirky musician for bringing the phrase "formerly known as" into the language.
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"TAFKAP" :D

My friends and I started calling him "Mr Squiggle" (Australians will probably get the reference).
 

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