Dell replays Windows 8 blame card as PC sales slide

Computerworld - Dell last week again blamed Windows 8 for contributing to a decline in PC sales revenue during the quarter that ended May 3.
"Windows 8 has been, from our standpoint, not necessarily the catalyst to drive accelerated growth that we had hoped it would be," said Brian Gladden, Dell's CFO, in a call last week with Wall Street analysts to discuss the quarter's financials.
Gladden's convoluted syntax aside, this was the second time that Dell pushed Windows 8 under the bus.

Dell replays Windows 8 blame card as PC sales slide - Computerworld
 
Several oems have said similar.

It does appear 8 has hastened the decline.

Interesting to see what Mike Dell does if he buys back the company - and how the MS involvement there will play out.
 

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Considering that OEMs are M$ major customers lets hope M$ listens and was not as deaf to its users.
 

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OEM's must be stupid. If Windows 8 is not selling, offer Windows 7 as its been called MS greatest OS. They rather blame someone else for their lack of management.

Jim :cool:
 

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OEM's must be stupid. If Windows 8 is not selling, offer Windows 7 as its been called MS greatest OS. They rather blame someone else for their lack of management.

Jim :cool:

That is the reason that Lenovo was positive in there sales they did offer windows 7 to its customers in my opinion.
 

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LOL, Jim. If only it were that simple.

Several have announced they won't continue to make rt devices for the time being.

Lenovo has been able to respond better than the others - perhaps because they are Chinese, and/or they can rely on the mainland government.

It is a lot more convoluted than you might think.
 

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If Windows 8 is not selling, offer Windows 7 as its been called MS greatest OS

How do you propose they do that now?

Gather up all the unsold stock from the retailers and warehouses around the world, and ship it back. Then take them apart, put 7 on , redesign and print all the pacakaging, then ship them all back out again?

It would cheaper just to throw all the unsold stock in the sea.

They are just going to have to hang on and accept it will take a while to shift , even at sale prices. MS are trying to prevent a revolt - they already provide subsidies - they have upped those, I believe , and reduced the license costs.

They are hoping 8.1 will help and are expecting another advertising push funded by MS of course.

There is also the haswell stuff coming up - assuming 8.1 looks better, oems will be able to put out much lower cost machines, which will help.
 

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As most on here keep telling MS to give us a choice. Well the OEM's should do the same. Stop shipping Windows 8 and start shipping Windows 7 systems. I am sure they have not stopped their production of systems. When Windows 7 systems show up at retail then the PC sales will soar to new heights and everybody will be happy. Those that want Windows 8 can still get new systems and then MOST people can get Windows 7 systems and everyone is happy.

Jim :cool:
 

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Bit tricky now. If they push out 7 machines - before recovering the money from the existing 8 stock - how are they going to finance that?

If the 7 machines sell pretty well - they will never get rid of all those 8 machines.

If they then decide 8.1 looks good and they move onto it with these cheaper haswell things - they then have 7, 8, and 8.1 and the new rt version machines on the shelves confusing the hell out of the customers.

You would be right to say they shouldn't rely on a single supplier for a very large part of their business.

This has been a wake up call.

We shall see if it leads to anything advantageous to the oems and the consumers. It depends if MS are able to keep a lid on it and prevent that from happening. MS have deep pockets, so they may be able to.
 

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Here is a good size nail to put is Windows 8 coffin.

[h=1]Boutique PC seller laughs all the way to the bank on the back of Windows 7[/h]
Computerworld - A boutique system builder has bucked the industry trend of slumping PC sales by continuing to focus on selling Windows 7 machines.
Auburn, Wash.-based Puget Systems grew sales 20% in 2012, said Jon Bach, president of the independent PC seller, by specializing in high-performance, buit-to-order PCs -- primarily deskstops.
Puget's performance is in stark contrast to the global PC market, which contracted 6% in the fourth quarter of last year, and plummeted 14% in the first quarter of 2013, according to research firm IDC.
Puget also went against the grain by selling significantly more Windows 7 PCs than ones equipped with the new Windows 8. That was not a strategy of its own choosing, however, as customers select the operating system for their custom-built machines.

Boutique PC seller laughs all the way to the bank on the back of Windows 7 - Computerworld

Yea Windows 8 is the blame for low PC sales.
 

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[h=1]Dell and enterprises diss Windows 8 big-time[/h]
If selling and buying operating systems were a football game, Dell and enterprises might be called for piling on, because within the last several days both of them have given big thumbs-downs to Windows 8. This is just the latest in a long series of bad news for the newest version of Windows.

Dell and enterprises diss Windows 8 big-time | Computerworld Blogs
 

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British pc builders have reported similar. Up to 90% of their sales have 7 on them.

It is much easier for them to respond to than it is for the oems.
 

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"Windows 8 has been, from our standpoint, not necessarily the catalyst to drive accelerated growth that we had hoped it would be," said Brian Gladden, Dell's CFO,

That's extremely polite.

I expect Mike Dell saw it coming.
Michael Dell announced in February that he planned to take the company private in a deal with Silver Lake Partners
Dell profit dives 79 percent on falling PC sales - Computerworld

shareholders, who think the company is worth more than Michael Dell and his partners have offered... Dell's biggest outside investor... indicated it might go to court to fight for a higher price.

Seems to be getting messy.
 

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OEM's must be stupid. If Windows 8 is not selling, offer Windows 7 as its been called MS greatest OS. They rather blame someone else for their lack of management.

Jim :cool:

That is the reason that Lenovo was positive in there sales they did offer windows 7 to its customers in my opinion.

As well as offering desirable touch PC models that Lenovo even said is selling more than they thought.
 

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As most on here keep telling MS to give us a choice. Well the OEM's should do the same. Stop shipping Windows 8 and start shipping Windows 7 systems. I am sure they have not stopped their production of systems. When Windows 7 systems show up at retail then the PC sales will soar to new heights and everybody will be happy. Those that want Windows 8 can still get new systems and then MOST people can get Windows 7 systems and everyone is happy.

Jim :cool:

Actually, PC sales would still be stagnant. The trend of phablet computing will continue to undermine the laptop PC with Windows 7, Windows marketshare will start to go down, OEMs will start building more android phablets and hybrids that offer things that Windows 7 laptops don't at lower prices, and then therefore undermine EVERYTHING.

Everyone is happy.
 

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OEM's must be stupid. If Windows 8 is not selling, offer Windows 7 as its been called MS greatest OS. They rather blame someone else for their lack of management.

Jim :cool:

Do we not know about the fact that PC sales were starting to slow even when Windows 7 was out on those PCs?
 

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I was being sarcastic that Windows 7 would save the PC market. Lots of posts on here about what MOST people want so I just threw that in. I have not talked to MOST people so I don't know why they are not buying or what they are buying. I know I won't be buying anything for a while because my current systems (Windows 7 and Windows 8) which are 4 years old are just fine and I don't have a lot of cash to just throw around. So maybe I am part of the 14% that is not buying. Actually I wouldn't buy Dell in any case.

Jim :cool:
 

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I was being sarcastic that Windows 7 would save the PC market. Lots of posts on here about what MOST people want so I just threw that in. I have not talked to MOST people so I don't know why they are not buying or what they are buying. I know I won't be buying anything for a while because my current systems (Windows 7 and Windows 8) which are 4 years old are just fine and I don't have a lot of cash to just throw around. So maybe I am part of the 14% that is not buying. Actually I wouldn't buy Dell in any case.

Jim :cool:
I kind of figured you were being sarcastic. ;)

Just added in the counter argument some think that if Windows 7 were out right now, PC sales would be skyrocketing.

But if I can momentarily hijack this thread, the new Xbox One has been announced officially by Microsoft and the comments on Neowin and WP Central about it basically state, "I'm buying this at launch. Please shut up and take my money right now." This will be great for Windows 8, Microsoft, PC gaming, and AMD. Since the new Xbox has Windows 8 kernel at its core, wow! The thing is essentially a gaming rig with Windows, so this theoretically could mean more PC style gaming on the Xbox, and more top titles from Xbox could theoretically make their way to the Windows PCs.
 

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What can possibly be so complicated about this?! Although they will always be needed mostly by business and power users, desktop PC sales have flat lined. It's still a market, but not the biggest anymore. Surely MS saw this coming. That's why 8 with the new touch-centric UI and all the rest of the changes, additions, and the Surfaces.

It's clear that people want to be mobile. Mobile devices are the new market. It's huge. Ask Apple and Google. Too bad MS partner OEMs can't read it right. MS had to be telling them this all along. After all, they're partners.

So far is Dell is concerned, what the hell is made in America anymore at a competing price?!! Especially electronic hardware. It's an Asian-dominated industry. Software yes, hardware, no. We are a service-oriented economy here now for the most part. They predicted that back in the 70's. No big news here. Perhaps that's why Michael Dell sold out? Look at Motorola. Goofy Google buys that?!! For the great American name only. It'll all be assembled in Asia just like iCrap and the like.

We in construction are lucky for they haven't figured out a way to import totally assembled buildings at a competing price > yet. Component materials yes. Assembled no. But, I see the day coming. Perhaps in cubes or panelized.

And just for your reading pleasure, lookup Chinese drywall sold in America. What a fiasco that was.
 

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And yet there are those on here who insist that if they put windows 7 on the PC's that the sales would go up. I don't understand how they could ignore the fact that PC sales took a nosedive long before windows 8 came out. It's always been an inevitable trend. Most people (9 out of 10) want devices for consumption purposes. Before, they bought laptops because they didn't have any other choice. If they just wanted to do emails and media consumption, why get another laptop when they could just get a phablet?
 

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