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Sophos Disses Norton and McAfee, Praises Windows 8 Built-in Antivirus

  1. #11


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    Win8 Pro x64


    Thank you Corrine.

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  2. #12


    I think that having Windows Defender as an actual A/V rather than turning it off to install MSE is great since, you know, they're basically the same type of programs. This way we use the full potential of Defender.

    I decided to switch to the DP and use it as a primary system, at least until I find out if any piece of software I regularly use isn't compatible in some way.
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  3. #13


    Posts : 128
    Win8 Pro x64


    I'm with you on both counts Gornot. WD and Win8 as primary OS.
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  4. #14


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    Posts : 1,062
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Because at the time I didn't know it was built in, hence since then couldn't see any reason to remore. It doesn't seem to be hurting anything so I'll just keep it for now.
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  5. #15


    Quote Originally Posted by Bill2 View Post
    Hello Corrine. As far as OEMs are concerned, they'll just install whatever the highest bidder pays and of course we know MS has deep pockets and a "special" relationship with OEMs.

    Second, its about choice. When the user makes an informed decision of which anti-malware product he'll use from a distance. Bundling an AV with the OS is trying to make a backdoor entry and gives MS a head start for various reasons- user inertia, MS advocacy of a product (they're the guys who know best cos they made the OS etc.) etc.
    Although Microsoft may have deep pockets, I am 100% positive that Microsoft will not put the company in the position of inviting lawsuits by attempting to influence OEMs to switch to Windows Defender instead of staying with whatever agreement the OEM has with Symantec, McAfee, or some other third party to provide A/V protection.

    Microsoft isn't making a profit from MSE and won't from Windows Defender on Windows 8. Thus, the only incentive is to provide a more secure environment out of the box for the installs that do not include a different A/V package.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Because at the time I didn't know it was built in, hence since then couldn't see any reason to remore. It doesn't seem to be hurting anything so I'll just keep it for now.
    Have you checked System and Security to see what is shown there? The A/V definitions added to Windows Defender on Windows 8 are the exact same as those for MSE (as well as the other Microsoft A/V products).
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  6. #16


    Microsoft isn't making a profit from MSE and won't from Windows Defender on Windows 8. Thus, the only incentive is to provide a more secure environment out of the box for the installs that do not include a different A/V package.
    And we know that most average users need that...

    Have you checked System and Security to see what is shown there? The A/V definitions added to Windows Defender on Windows 8 are the exact same as those for MSE (as well as the other Microsoft A/V products).
    That's another good point.
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  7. #17


    Although Microsoft may have deep pockets, I am 100% positive that Microsoft will not put the company in the position of inviting lawsuits by attempting to influence OEMs to switch to Windows Defender instead of staying with whatever agreement the OEM has with Symantec, McAfee, or some other third party to provide A/V protection.

    Microsoft isn't making a profit from MSE and won't from Windows Defender on Windows 8. Thus, the only incentive is to provide a more secure environment out of the box for the installs that do not include a different A/V package.
    1) Third party preinstalled AVs are time limited trials, the user has to be proactive and buy them or install free ones. Defender's sitting there.

    2) If the intention is not to make a profit, there should be a clear and easy way of removing defender. Right now, it can only be turned off at the most.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 22
    Windows 7/Windows 8


    This is actually a very good idea. I doubt on release day of Windows 8 with those new fangled ARM-based tablets, there will be anti-virus software from the major vendors. Thus building it in the OS makes sure those consumers with ARM-based tablets are protected...then again malware will need to recompile to ARM as well...
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