Microsoft Might Release Windows 9 a Lot Sooner

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Thanks for the Info. . .:thumbsup:
 

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So do you think that is something we will have to upgrade ($$$) to? or just be a normal type update. I am guessing $$.
 

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So do you think that is something we will have to upgrade ($$$) to? or just be a normal type update. I am guessing $$.

I am guessing more like $$$ in order to make up losses on Window 8.
 

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So do you think that is something we will have to upgrade ($$$) to? or just be a normal type update. I am guessing $$.

I am guessing more like $$$ in order to make up losses on Window 8.
Microsoft thus far has indicated it will be free to those who have purchased a copy of Win 8 or got Win 8 with a new computer/laptop/Surface.
 

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I think 8.1 was possibly free. I don't think the jump to 9 will be a freebie.
 

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I wonder whether they are getting smarter with /9. If it is the same old, it will be the same old flop.
 

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I wonder whether they are getting smarter with /9. If it is the same old, it will be the same old flop.

You think that M$ would make the same mistake twice.
 

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I'm wondering if Win 9 will be a fix for 8 just like Win 7 was a fix for Vista. I don't think people will be happy to pay for a new OS when just a short while ago they shelled out money for Windows 8.
 

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You think that M$ would make the same mistake twice.

Microsoft scoffs at the derision. You can forget about the elimination of WinRT. You can expect more subscription and cloud services. A great deal of what is happening is about the evolution of programming code.

Standalone products like Linux will have their place but the mainstream will evolve to new technology...
assuming that there is no major catastrophe like a crash of the power grid from something nasty.

...I don't think people will be happy to pay for a new OS when just a short while ago they shelled out money for Windows 8.

You could be right, but $50 dollars or even $100 for an Operating System? I just spent $400 dollars on a vacuum cleaner, $500 dollars on car insurance, $2000 on veterinary care, $90 dollars to fuel my diesel van, $420 on a tax return, $500 dollars for gas and electric, $240 on laser toner cartridges, $450 dollars on truck tires etc...
 
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You could be right, but $50 dollars or even $100 for an Operating System? I just spent $400 dollars on a vacuum cleaner, $500 dollars on car insurance, $2000 on veterinary care, $90 dollars to fuel my diesel van, $420 on a tax return, $500 dollars for gas and electric, $240 on laser toner cartridges, $450 dollars on truck tires etc...
Maybe going to a doctor would be cheaper, LOL.

But without joking - you are right. Operating systems are dead cheap.
 

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If as some have indicated, and they follow Apples every two years or a little less and put out an upgrade to win 8 to win 9 and charge $40.00 the that wouldn't be all that bad.
 

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If as some have indicated, and they follow Apples every two years or a little less and put out an upgrade to win 8 to win 9 and charge $40.00 the that wouldn't be all that bad.

I have no issues with the cost, but as somebody who has to support employees and customers using these operating systems, I really prefer to not have something new or supported to add to the mix. It's bad enough we have XP SP3, Vista SP2, Windows 7 SP1 and now 8 to contend with on the desktop side, with IE 6, 7, 8, 9 ,10.
 

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Hi pparks1,

Come on is it really that hard of a choice. XP is dead, and the next progression is Win 7. If I was running a business it would be obvious that Win 8 is not really for any business regardless of it size. The jump from XP to 7 really isn't going to be that big of a deal when it comes to training. In fact both are in reality close to each other as far as Menu, Desktop, File Explorer, and 7 offers some really good security along with great stability. So if you cannot find your way to use 7 then go with one of the free Linux Distros, and the great and wonderful freeware available in the wild. . .
 
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I think 8.1 was possibly free. I don't think the jump to 9 will be a freebie.

8.1 will almost certainly be free. The upgrade for 9 will probably be $40, at least for like the first 3 months, same as 8.

But it will really be a showstopper if they don't integrate a way for the desktop to be able to control apps. Launch them, window them, run them, and when they suspend/close they drop you back to desktop if run from the desktop. Its fine if they want to keep the Start Screen, especially for tablets, and for those that want to use it, but if you're working on a workstation... you should be able to drive all of RT, in combination with your normal applications, from the desktop, without a thematic break to fullscreen and using the traditional icon setup the desktop has used since it began.

If they don't, they're screwed.

The public has pretty much spoken with their money on this. I do like Windows 8, but they need that functionality for workstations.Tile interface simply gets in the way, and is a poor use of resources, in a lot of situations involving larger screens and systems.
 

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... you should be able to drive all of RT, in combination with your normal applications, from the desktop, without a thematic break to fullscreen and using the traditional icon setup the desktop has used since it began....If they don't, they're screwed.

So what you are saying is that WinRT should be secondary to Win32 and that the desktop app should control all of WinRT apps because the "thematic break" is unacceptable. Well, I disagree and that is not how code development trends are panning out. The "public" as you refer will have to learn how to use the new designs without all this bickering from a lack of familiarity because a UI "gets in the way".

As far as the definition of a workstation concerned, most of the systems I see in offices, hospitals, labs, libraries and other places stay in one application most of the time. I really do not see such a drastic unintuitive mind boggling repulsion from selecting a tile then going to work.

http://www.eightforums.com/general-support/9190-suitable-enterprise.html

Tile interface simply gets in the way, and is a poor use of resources, in a lot of situations involving larger screens and systems.

Also disagree. What do you mean by resources? Are you talking memory? A system that has only has 1 or 2GB of memory is fairly weak and not professional grade. Why is screen real estate on the start screen an issue? The start screen is a separate page and does not interfere with working applications. If you think flipping from start screen to app (desktop or metro) is distracting, then I also disagree. If you think the traditional desktop is the alpha and omega and ground zero for everything workstation related, then there is no common ground for a discussion. The metro UI can be utilized in the workplace as a launching area and a portal to other services. The arguments and concept of UI distraction I find as odd. My recent visit to the local hospital was replete with hundreds of beeps, bells, pronouncements, smells, alarms etc... I also scoff at the derision. Desktop icons are not a solution.
 

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You think that M$ would make the same mistake twice.

Think....???!!
Given how far they seem to have their collective heads buried in the sand, I'd say it's quite likely....:eek:
 

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Hi pparks1,

Come on is it really that hard of a choice. XP is dead, and the next progression is Win 7. If I was running a business it would be obvious that Win 8 is not really for any business regardless of it size. The jump from XP to 7 really isn't going to be that big of a deal when it comes to training. In fact both are in reality close to each other as far as Menu, Desktop, File Explorer, and 7 offers some really good security along with great stability. So if you cannot find your way to use 7 then go with one of the free Linux Distros, and the great and wonderful freeware available in the wild. . .

You missed my point. As a software vendor, we have to ensure our software works on all supported versions of Windows. And Microsoft still officially supports XP. This also means we have to keep machines and vms around to test and try to duplicate what customers report. So, the more and more OS versions and releases come out, the more this becomes bigger and bigger and tasks more time, resources, etc.
 

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... you should be able to drive all of RT, in combination with your normal applications, from the desktop, without a thematic break to fullscreen and using the traditional icon setup the desktop has used since it began....If they don't, they're screwed.

So what you are saying is that WinRT should be secondary to Win32 and that the desktop app should control all of WinRT apps because the "thematic break" is unacceptable.

Um... no? RT apps and Win32 applications would sit side by side as icons. They're just shortcuts, you can either have them running .exe files or launching .appx's. Its all the same to me, .appx's are simply mobile applications with a lot more security involved. This isn't an either/or. I could have Word or Excel as icons.. and then beside it.. Angry Birds. If I doubleclick Angry Birds, it launches as an RT app, windowed if I had chosen that. If I close it, it drops me back to the desktop. I then click Excel and the application runs as it would normally.

Or I have 15 apps and 12 desktop applications open and can alt-tab between them. Who cares? Stop thinking that RT apps are unique snowflakes, they aren't. They're simply a different wrapper for applications.

Well, I disagree and that is not how code development trends are panning out. The "public" as you refer will have to learn how to use the new designs without all this bickering from a lack of familiarity because a UI "gets in the way".

This isn't the 90's, man. The "public" has plenty of options beyond Windows 8, including Windows 7 :p. So don't think you can shove something down the public's throat and say 'swallow'.

As far as the definition of a workstation concerned, most of the systems I see in offices, hospitals, labs, libraries and other places stay in one application most of the time. I really do not see such a drastic unintuitive mind boggling repulsion from selecting a tile then going to work.

And if an enterprise wants to use a workstation for only one application, and run it from the tile screen, both of those things are viable choices. But just because a specific enterprise may want to run only one application, that doesn't mean that EVERYBODY only wants to one run application.

Also bear in mind that I in no way advocate getting rid of the tile screen in any way. I'm simply saying that for workstations, you should have the Option of driving everything from the desktop interface, and not leaving it. Tile screen is great to drive small devices like tablets or phones, it is not the preferred way of driving a workstation.

Tile interface simply gets in the way, and is a poor use of resources, in a lot of situations involving larger screens and systems.

Also disagree. What do you mean by resources?

I'm talking about having a Weather App take up 24-30" worth of screen space :p. I never run my main applications full screen, why do I want my Apps each taking up the whole screen and hiding everything on a large monitor?
 

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Well thought out. I still disagree on several points.

...you should have the Option of driving everything from the desktop interface, and not leaving it.
...it is not the preferred way of driving a workstation.

1) I don't agree with driving everything from the desktop.
You lost me there. Driving everything from the desktop is IMO, old fashioned.

2) I don't agree with windowing immersive applications or running them on the desktop.
Multi tasking can be achieved without concurrent windows.

3) Don't agree that WinRT and Win32 will retain equal status as code evolves.

...If I doubleclick Angry Birds...

There's no reason to have or allow seemingly frivolous games on a commercial workstation.

This isn't the 90's, man. The "public" has plenty of options beyond Windows 8, including Windows 7. So don't think you can shove something down the public's throat and say 'swallow'.

So you're saying the "public" will go with Apple, Linux or Windows 7 because of a start screen.

I never run my main applications full screen, why do I want my Apps each taking up the whole screen and hiding everything on a large monitor?

We'll have to agree to disagree with personal preferences.
I prefer immersion.
 

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