The above is what I posted yesterday and below is what I read this morning - nearly the same words. This is really worrying.The fact that the desktop has been demoted to an 'application' Is not a good sign. I can easily imagine that all the applications that we run today (free or paid) will end up in the MS store and can be called with a tile. Then the desktop will really only be a folder.the inference that Microsoft wants to lock you into their eco-system is worrying. That is indeed worrying.
It will take a few years before we get there, but the signs definitely point into that direction - and not only from MS, look at Google. Same thing.
No Windows desktop mode!? No! | ZDNet
This has to be a bit of total B/S about dropping "desktop" mode. It might be called something else but NOT ALL APPS are suitable for running in full screen or even half screen (or half baked) mode.
1) What about people who have SEVERAL large monitors and who need to keep concurrent applications visible.
2) What about software / other developers who write code will want debugging windows open as they design and debug code.
3) Stock exchange programs often need SEVERAL windows open at once to execute your trades.
4) Does anybody at Ms ever do any document translation from two or 3 languages --unless these are concurrently visiable then it's a hopeless task.
5) Does anybody at ms ever compose presentations that need inserts say from Audio / other documents / websites to be included --if these are all "metroized" --forget it.
Probably loads of other cases too -- I use photoshop a LOT and need to VISIBLY see the various layers I might have while processing a photo -- and I need these to be visible AT THE SAME TIME.
Now on the whole I LIKE W8 and don't really miss the start menu -- but I would HATE it if I were forced to run everything in Full screen (or even Half screen) mode.
Remember Ms the OS is called WINDOWS ==>PLURAL not WINDOW==>SINGULAR.
Actually if they did get rid of the desktop and still called it WINDOWS - could you invoke the various Trades descriptions acts in force in most countries -- the product description mustn't MISLEAD the consumer when they purchase / lease the product or service.
Jimbo I hear you. But do the guys in Redmond hear you too. They have already made so much damage, they probably figure that some more damage does not matter.
I am completely lost. I was actively involved in operating systems strategies for more than a decade. But something as stupid as what they are doing now I have never seen.
MS aren't interested in these forums or any others. They probably don't even bother reading media coverage. What is being offered now is a take it or leave it situation. Fortunately there are alternatives, staying with W7 being just one. If you like W8 then fine, if you don't then that's also fine.
Most of the positives and negatives of W8 have been covered over and over around here. Nothing's going to change as MS have a plan (whatever that is) and are going to keep to it come hell or high water.
I understand why you are saying it is stupid.whs
But something as stupid as what they are doing now I have never seen.
In fact it is very clever.
I saw it immediately, Mike Mace ( former head of Apple platform marketing ) also saw it immediately, reading between the lines of Paul Thurrott recent posts - I think he understands it now.mart
MS have a plan (whatever that is)
Do you want to know what it is?
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Incidentally many people are worried about the loss of the Start Menu. Yes the Start Screen is slower and for new or infrequent users, it's much harder to work out what's going on. But you can work around it and crucially most users don't spend much time on the Start Screen or Menu - once you've started the app or whatever, you spend your time in the app and it doesn't matter how you started it.
The loss of the ability to see multiple windows is something that affects people all the time they're using the software, and in the Metro model there's no real workaround unless you get ModernMix or similar, so for people who need to use multiple windows, it's a much bigger deal.
I'd say that it will happen and Office 365 is the start. If it picks up traction, then everything else will follow. Windows 9, or very soon after, may well be cloud or nothing. Microsoft wants to lock users into their eco-system, and rapidly, so that there is not enough time for other options to become viable for the masses, such as Linux.One source close to Microsoft told me he can't see Microsoft dumping the desktop anytime soon. "There's the little, itty-bitty problem of hundreds of thousands of desktop applications that will take years, if not longer, to migrate to WinRT API-based apps. Just bringing Office alone to WinRT will be a Manhattan Project."
Of course, Microsoft does have one way around this problem: Move all its business apps to the cloud and make them software as a service (SaaS) apps. This fits in nicely with Ed Bott's vision of Microsoft's future as a cloud-based service provider with its own hardware line, Surface.
If moving its business applications to the cloud really is the plan, then Microsoft could indeed leave Windows 8's desktop mode behind. I wouldn't be happy about it, and I don't see that I'd ever like Metro, but a combination of cloud services and Windows-based devices with Metro interfaces could win for Microsoft.
Don't abandon Windows 7 etc just yet, you may end up regretting that move.