Windows Blue upgrades maybe shown in leaked videos

Leaked videos that hit the Web today hint at a host of possibilities for Microsoft's next Windows release, codenamed Blue. Not only does it look like there might be improvements across the operating system, but also the speech recognition feature in Windows Phones could get a noteworthy upgrade.


[video=youtube;utbVYi8UurA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=utbVYi8UurA[/video]

[video=youtube;iY4S5BQWTMA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY4S5BQWTMA&feature=player_embedded[/video]


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Windows Blue upgrades maybe shown in leaked videos | Microsoft - CNET News
 
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That article doesn't actually say anything -- there are some great touch enabled painting programs that work fine already even on W7 (although you will need specialized hardware like decent pen writing devices). The latest photoshop (OK expensive) can do this really OK as well.

I doubt though any decent artist would rely on simply "Classical touch" with finger swipes --you'd definitely need some time of "brush" and pen tools to get anything better than a first year kindergarten standard image.

What does it offer ("improvements " ? like what - nothing said) ?

It seems to be a not very creative piece of total B/S. Of course Ms will be working on future developments and the next version of the OS --that was true even in Windows/286, Windows 3.0 and Windows 3.11 days so what's new. While Code writing might still be far off there certainly would be some sort of analysis and Proof of Concept going on before even a line of code was written.

I don't doubt either that Ms will improve the current W8 -- although currently the code seems quite efficient. One way of minimizing and improving it would be to take a leaf out of Linux's book -- have a very small kernel which boots very quickly indeed and only dynamically load those services and hardware drivers it needs when those services are actually required. To avoid re-loading these at next boot they can easily be saved in an area like the Linux Swap spaces. If new hardware is required then the driver is just loaded one time as before.


Ms DO need to address the whole Metro problem though -- No I'm not re-hashing the tired old argument about the Start Menu etc.
For use where larger (and multiple) screens are employed Metro apps need to be able to be WINDOWED and be displayed concurrently -- by all means allow the user to switch to Full screen if they want to.

I'd like to have something like the old "Gadgets" back so you could see dynamically changing tiles on your DESKTOP while you are composing a document, performing EXCEL calculations, or even just surfing the web. Unless you are on a phone full screen browsing seems a total waste of time anyway since you often want to have more than one site open at once -- and you don't always want to tab between them.

On a phone no prob -- but even on a 10 inch screen (Surface Pro tablet and similar) I can see times where you wouldn't always want to be in Full screen mode. Typical instance you might be on two different social networking sites at the same time etc.

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You can get more information by traveling around the internet. . .:D

Thanks Shawn, been around ten sites reading up on Windows Blue, but hadn't seen these two videos. . .:thumbsup:
 

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The main improvement they have to make is a distinction of traditional PC setups and touch setups. It would be simple to have the installer distinguish between the two worlds like it senses a zero rotation disk (SSD) and does things specific to the needs of that type of disk (alignment, shut off defrag, etc.).

Likewise the installer could sense whether it is working with a touch screen - then install the touch UI and features, or a traditional screen - then install the traditional UI. That would fix the main problem of Windows 8 and everybody would be happy.

After all, Windows 8 is not a bad system - in fact it is a very good system. But the touch UI and functions spoil it for a normal PC.
 

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Likewise the installer could sense whether it is working with a touch screen - then install the touch UI and features, or a traditional screen - then install the traditional UI. That would fix the main problem of Windows 8 and everybody would be happy...

Not me !

........But the touch UI and functions spoil it for a normal PC.

I have a normal PC. Nothing spoiled IMO. I like immersive functions. IMO, my preference >> charms, corners, edge UI, apps area, pull down closing, edge multi tasking, and start screen key functions seem a-ok ... Separate paging of windows exists in Linux doesn't it? i.e. desktop #1, desktop #2, desktop #3 etc...
 

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Likewise the installer could sense whether it is working with a touch screen - then install the touch UI and features, or a traditional screen - then install the traditional UI. That would fix the main problem of Windows 8 and everybody would be happy...

Not me !

........But the touch UI and functions spoil it for a normal PC.

I have a normal PC. Nothing spoiled IMO. I like immersive functions. IMO, my preference >> charms, corners, edge UI, apps area, pull down closing, edge multi tasking, and start screen key functions seem a-ok ... Separate paging of windows exists in Linux doesn't it? i.e. desktop #1, desktop #2, desktop #3 etc...

Good for you. There should always be something for minorities.
 

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Yes, I am a minority.
...not opposed to the sale by Microsoft of a purely desktop only OS with no metro at all and with a start menu.
...does not seem to be in their business plan, however. I think they believe they know better.
 

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They will see when they look at their revenue charts in the next few months. It is only too bad that they are bringing down the whole PC industry in the process.
 

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I think they believe they know better.

I thought they new what there were doing to till I started using Window 8 now I know they do not know better.
 

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It is only too bad that they are bringing down the whole PC industry in the process.

It is difficult for others in the industry - oem's and all those whose jobs depend on it.

The oem's should think about getting a decent alternative os.

They are doing that with phones/tablets, about time they got around to putting something on proper machines.
 

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Yes, I am a minority.
...not opposed to the sale by Microsoft of a purely desktop only OS with no metro at all and with a start menu.
...does not seem to be in their business plan, however. I think they believe they know better.
Who cares if we're a minority, Dare to be different. I can whip through Windows 8 a lot faster than I ever could through Windows 7. I rarely close programmes down and use the edge to reopen them.
 

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It is only too bad that they are bringing down the whole PC industry in the process.

It is difficult for others in the industry - oem's and all those whose jobs depend on it.

The oem's should think about getting a decent alternative os.

They are doing that with phones/tablets, about time they got around to putting something on proper machines.
Well instead of the major websites rubbishing Windows 8 they could try putting up small tutorials and be a bit more positive, that might help the OEMs. But hey we're talking about MS the most hated company on the planet so that will never happen.

Maybe they could try the 4 different flavours of Mint or the 100s of other forks of Linux, that wouldn't confuse the masses. They can't even have one Mint flavour what does that tell you.

Also what's proper for you is never going to be proper for anyone else. Maybe they could try IOS that's easy or Android that's hard, or Ubuntu or Mint or Red Hat or Debian or Puppy, or Mountain Lion or Snow Leopard and the beat goes on.

I'll tell you what I think. I think the world should accept Windows 8 for the time being, it's not very difficult, just a couple of hot points away from 7 and see what happens with Blue.

Or we turn the whole world upside down looking for something new and that disrupts the whole flow of things.
 

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Yes, I am a minority. ...not opposed to the sale by Microsoft of a purely desktop only OS with no metro at all and with a start menu. ...does not seem to be in their business plan, however. I think they believe they know better.
Who cares if we're a minority, Dare to be different. I can whip through Windows 8 a lot faster than I ever could through Windows 7. I rarely close programmes down and use the edge to reopen them.

Agree with all of that... I think sometimes there is no hope. I understand the design of 8 and the reasons behind it, but many will never be comfortable adapting to new technologies.
 

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Yes, I am a minority. ...not opposed to the sale by Microsoft of a purely desktop only OS with no metro at all and with a start menu. ...does not seem to be in their business plan, however. I think they believe they know better.
Who cares if we're a minority, Dare to be different. I can whip through Windows 8 a lot faster than I ever could through Windows 7. I rarely close programmes down and use the edge to reopen them.

Agree with all of that... I think sometimes there is no hope. I understand the design of 8 and the reasons behind it, but many will never be comfortable adapting to new technologies.
The thing is that for anyone who has used IOS or Android this should be really simple and even for those who haven't its really just a small learning curve to zip around and access apps that are already partly open.
 

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Yes, I am a minority. ...not opposed to the sale by Microsoft of a purely desktop only OS with no metro at all and with a start menu. ...does not seem to be in their business plan, however. I think they believe they know better.
Who cares if we're a minority, Dare to be different. I can whip through Windows 8 a lot faster than I ever could through Windows 7. I rarely close programmes down and use the edge to reopen them.

Agree with all of that... I think sometimes there is no hope. I understand the design of 8 and the reasons behind it, but many will never be comfortable adapting to new technologies.
It does not really matter what you guys think. You are a minute minority.

I am a member of a computer club with 800 mostely elderly members. For a while I was teaching advanced Windows 7 classes there. Now every time I am at the club, several people come up to me with always the same story:

"I bought this new laptop and it came with Windows 8. How can I get Windows 7 back". When I tell them that given time they will get used to it, the answer usually is: " But I don't want to get used to it" - or something like that. At the same time, the Windows 8 classes that we offer are hardly attended.

I go one step further and ask them what they are doing with the laptop. Usually it is mail, skype with their kids and grandchildren, storing some photos, browsing the web. For that kind of scenario I recommend they return the laptop and get a Chromebook instead. Life will be a lot easier.

Now I probably have to buy a Chromebook myself because I see them coming to ask me to teach them how to use that.
 

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Who cares if we're a minority, Dare to be different. I can whip through Windows 8 a lot faster than I ever could through Windows 7. I rarely close programmes down and use the edge to reopen them.

Agree with all of that... I think sometimes there is no hope. I understand the design of 8 and the reasons behind it, but many will never be comfortable adapting to new technologies.
It does not really matter what you guys think. You are a minute minority.

I am a member of a computer club with 800 mostely elderly members. For a while I was teaching advanced Windows 7 classes there. Now every time I am at the club, several people come up to me with always the same story:

"I bought this new laptop and it came with Windows 8. How can I get Windows 7 back". When I tell them that given time they will get used to it, the answer usually is: " But I don't want to get used to it" - or something like that. At the same time, the Windows 8 classes that we offer are hardly attended.

I go one step further and ask them what they are doing with the laptop. Usually it is mail, skype with their kids and grandchildren, storing some photos, browsing the web. For that kind of scenario I recommend they return the laptop and get a Chromebook instead. Life will be a lot easier.

Now I probably have to buy a Chromebook myself because I see them coming to ask me to teach them how to use that.
For the things these oldies do, they would never have to leave Metro and if they don't leave Metro it is easier than IOS. They should actually be using RT, maybe MS should have made it so that you can use that on a Notebook.
 

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Who cares if we're a minority, Dare to be different. I can whip through Windows 8 a lot faster than I ever could through Windows 7. I rarely close programmes down and use the edge to reopen them.

Agree with all of that... I think sometimes there is no hope. I understand the design of 8 and the reasons behind it, but many will never be comfortable adapting to new technologies.
It does not really matter what you guys think. You are a minute minority.

I am a member of a computer club with 800 mostely elderly members. For a while I was teaching advanced Windows 7 classes there. Now every time I am at the club, several people come up to me with always the same story:

"I bought this new laptop and it came with Windows 8. How can I get Windows 7 back". When I tell them that given time they will get used to it, the answer usually is: " But I don't want to get used to it" - or something like that. At the same time, the Windows 8 classes that we offer are hardly attended.

I go one step further and ask them what they are doing with the laptop. Usually it is mail, skype with their kids and grandchildren, storing some photos, browsing the web. For that kind of scenario I recommend they return the laptop and get a Chromebook instead. Life will be a lot easier.

Now I probably have to buy a Chromebook myself because I see them coming to ask me to teach them how to use that.
You must live in Munich to get that many oldies to sign up for a Computer class, wow.
 

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It's always interesting to see how resistant to change the younger generations are. I find the changes in Windows 8 challenging in some areas but so is life. I always thought with changes hitting us constantly that the younger generations would be more resilient but I guess not.
 

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You must live in Munich to get that many oldies to sign up for a Computer class, wow.
This is in my winter quarters in Florida. And they don't all sign up for classes. 800+ is the total number of club members. Many are not very active.

For the things these oldies do, they would never have to leave Metro and if they don't leave Metro it is easier than IOS. They should actually be using RT, maybe MS should have made it so that you can use that on a Notebook.
Probaly true. But they just don't want the whole thing.
 

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