Windows 8 swells to 2.7% of OS market

That's, still, a fast growth, especially the last month. :)

Looking at the chart, it's mainly XP and 7 that will provide significant numbers to 8.
 

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No, it is relatively very poor - and it is slowing.

Even Vista did better at this stage.


Looking at the chart, it's mainly XP and 7 that will provide significant numbers to 8.

Of course. When your machine dies - you have to get one with win8 - it will become very hard to find anything else.

Likewise, if you never had a machine and need one now - you have to get one with win8 - it is not easy to find anything else and it will become harder.

I think most of the ( relatively small ) sales of win8 have been for those reasons - and not because buyers actively want it.
 

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That's right, this is terrible especially when you consider that Windows 8 was supposed to be the OS of a gazillion small devices, connected to the internet. The only uptick here are those poor souls ramrodded into using Windows 8 on laptops who cannot do anything about it because their OEM (looking at u, HP) has locked them into it using the unholy trinity of UEFI, Trusted Boot and OA3.0, and that undisclosed number of Surface buyers.
And me, using my Win 8 Pro with WMC during weekends on my desktop PC to see what's up. :D Today they updated the Pinball FX app. Wheeewiii!

Now, I'm sure that the likes of BillWindows and CokeRobot will soon come a-runnin' to put some chic sweet lipstick on this pig, but it'll still be a pig.
 

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Curious MS decided to go about it this way.

I expect they calculated no one else can step in.

That is why I think Tim Cook must be very tempted. Big risk for Apple, but the rewards are staring him in the face.

Of course, it is possible he might have something entirely different in the oven.
 

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Just to add two more cents, the battery life of Surface Pro has shown that the OS alone can do squat about power efficiency. Hardware support is the only one that makes a difference. Now, that said, they can just as easily update the Windows 7 kernel to do connected standby, but we know that they won't. And if there is no Windows 7 SP 2 to help us reduce update bloat in the servicing folder for the sole reason of pushing people towards Windows 8, then Microsoft is evil. And I'll start to hate Monkeyboy and the rest of the management, although I'll still love one of their products. Apple will be more fair than them.
 

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Hi there.
You can't use these statistics in any meaningful way whatsoever when comparing with takeup of previous Os'es.

1) The whole PC market is totally different now -- many more people use MOBILE and tablet type devices rather than PC's -- When VISTA and XP were current these devices barely existed.

2) Those that DO have computers --well the hardware is so much better now that a lot of people really do not see any need to go out and buy a new computer.

3) The computers running W7 (and even XP) run these as far as their users are concerned very satisfactorily so there isn't a reason to change.

4) In the present economic climate where people are really worried about their jobs they have more important things to spend their money on in case the jobs and hence their incomes stop,

In this situation computers are a luxury item that come way behind important stuff like paying the mortgage off, clearing credit card debts and even paying day to day basic bills.

People can make whatever use they like with the figures - but Ms is in this for the long haul --rare for a US corporation who usually can't see beyond three days in the future before taking some - usually badly considered -- action. Short termism is often a downfall of corporations.

W8 gets a bad press in the computer literature because the journalists who write the articles usually haven't had time to try the thing out properly -- and it's far easier to rubbish something --especially when you've only used it for about 20 seconds rather than attempt to give a proper review.

Looking at stock prices I'd rather be dealing with MSFT than AAPL (who really are going NOWHERE currently).

There ARE flaws with W8 -- these will I'm sure be dealt with but some of the reviews I've read seem to be written by people who probably have never even LOGGED on to W8 but probably hobbled some copy from poorly produced You Tube demos.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Just to add two more cents, the battery life of Surface Pro has shown that the OS alone can do squat about power efficiency. Hardware support is the only one that makes a difference. Now, that said, they can just as easily update the Windows 7 kernel to do connected standby, but we know that they won't. And if there is no Windows 7 SP 2 to help us reduce update bloat in the servicing folder for the sole reason of pushing people towards Windows 8, then Microsoft is evil. And I'll start to hate Monkeyboy and the rest of the management, although I'll still love one of their products. Apple will be more fair than them.

I don't understand why some think Microsoft should support a three year old OS just because it's the most used right now. That will end up with another xp....
 

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We must run more ads!

Microsoft may be looking at similar data, as this week the Windows group's director of communications, Christopher Flores, confirmed that the company would partner with OEMs to launch a second wave of promotions for Windows 8 hardware.

Last weekend, U.S. retailer Best Buy kicked off a two-week deal that discounted touch-enabled Windows 8 PCs by $100.
Computerworld
Windows 8 uptake slows for third straight month - Computerworld

I notice the usual corporate mindset is being displayed.
"People aren't buying our product. We must run more ads!"
The thought never crosses their tiny minds, that the problem is with the product, not the lack of adverting. :doh:
"We're not wrong. The World is wrong."

I don't understand why some think Microsoft should support a three year old OS just because it's the most used right now. That will end up with another xp....

That's simple economics.

MS is a minnow in the consumer market (tablets and phones).

MS products are used by businesses (Windows and Office).
The only reason they had to support XP, was that businesses refused to use Vista.

If MS keeping p****** off their biggest customers, they won't have any market.
If businesses refuse to buy W8, MS will have no choice but to support W7 (and build an OS that businesses want).

Didn't MS already announce that W7 supposed to have support until 2020?

 
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Hi there.
You can't use these statistics in any meaningful way whatsoever when comparing with takeup of previous Os'es.

1) The whole PC market is totally different now -- many more people use MOBILE and tablet type devices rather than PC's -- When VISTA and XP were current these devices barely existed.

2) Those that DO have computers --well the hardware is so much better now that a lot of people really do not see any need to go out and buy a new computer.

3) The computers running W7 (and even XP) run these as far as their users are concerned very satisfactorily so there isn't a reason to change.

4) In the present economic climate where people are really worried about their jobs they have more important things to spend their money on in case the jobs and hence their incomes stop,

In this situation computers are a luxury item that come way behind important stuff like paying the mortgage off, clearing credit card debts and even paying day to day basic bills.

People can make whatever use they like with the figures - but Ms is in this for the long haul --rare for a US corporation who usually can't see beyond three days in the future before taking some - usually badly considered -- action. Short termism is often a downfall of corporations.

W8 gets a bad press in the computer literature because the journalists who write the articles usually haven't had time to try the thing out properly -- and it's far easier to rubbish something --especially when you've only used it for about 20 seconds rather than attempt to give a proper review.

Looking at stock prices I'd rather be dealing with MSFT than AAPL (who really are going NOWHERE currently).

There ARE flaws with W8 -- these will I'm sure be dealt with but some of the reviews I've read seem to be written by people who probably have never even LOGGED on to W8 but probably hobbled some copy from poorly produced You Tube demos.

Cheers
jimbo

This is true.

If I can add, if you bought a PC back in 2009 or 2010, chances are that it's still running 7 just fine unlike vista. If you bought a vista PC, ESPECIALLY a laptop, by the third month it was like dragging a dead dog. Most people aren't actively looking to upgrade to 8 over 7 just yet.

Then there is the fact that when vista and even 7 came out, economic crisis wasn't a weekly used term. People don't look into buying new PCs every two or three years like they do with smartphones or even tablets. They last for a good five years if it has 4 gigs of RAM and a 64 bit processor. I have a friend that has a laptop from like 2007 or 2008 that has gone through vista, 7, and now 8. Why? Four gigs of RAM and a 64 bit processor. If I should say, I'd MUCH rather see OEMs focus on really good build quality versus pumping out fifteen models per year. It's like what Nokia is doing with their Lumia Windows Phones, they're focusing on lower end very nicely built Windows Phones, and tiering them into different price ranges and hardware features. That's just ONE series of Windows Phone they have, unlike HTC where they have the One, One X, 8X, 8S, Titan, and many many others they have.

And yes, Windows 8 does get a bad rap by some, usually those that really haven't taken time to thoroughly explore the OS to have a valid opinion about it. And, yes there are flaws in it. I want 50/50 app snap versus 33/66. Thankfully though, Windows 8 is making Microsoft change their ways and update their products quicker, probably like they would had when xp came out, they would had released vista two years after it after xp came out a year past 2000/ME. But this is a long haul OS, a pretty big UI change doesn't get adopted overnight and it's rather foolish to think that happens. It doesn't. At all.

By the way, I'd look at Nokia's stock as well. That really has nowhere to go but up.
 

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We have a laptop that is 4 years old with Vista.
I don't want 50/50 app snap, I want fully customizing like I have today.
 

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Whole bunch of excuses coming out now.

If you make a product people want - they will buy it. Apple had a great Xmas - why not win 8 ? Gee, I wonder.

They have machines already that work OK ? I daresay many of the Apple buyers did too - in many cases they only bought it a year ago - they still buy the new one.

There are sales all over the place - w8 itself still available at the promo price - even that is being discounted - oem's are giving big discounts, too. Not selling well in spite of that.

Rather gives the impression win 8 is not a product a lot of people really want.
 

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Whole bunch of excuses coming out now.

If you make a product people want - they will buy it. Apple had a great Xmas - why not win 8 ? Gee, I wonder.

They have machines already that work OK ? I daresay many of the Apple buyers did too - in many cases they only bought it a year ago - they still buy the new one.

There are sales all over the place - w8 itself still available at the promo price - even that is being discounted - oem's are giving big discounts, too. Not selling well in spite of that.

Rather gives the impression win 8 is not a product a lot of people really want.
Uuhhmm, Apple had a great Christmas because it sells toys, that's what sells at Christmas, I don't see any leap in Mac sales. Apple lovers don't buy a new MacBook Pro every year, show me where Mac sales have gone through the roof and I'll listen.
I remember a few years ago Windows dipped to under 90% market share, now it's around 92%.
 

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I expect they would go through the roof if the starting price wasn't $1400 (UK equivalent).

A macbook at say $699.

What would that do to windows pc sales?
 

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I expect they would go through the roof if the starting price wasn't $1400 (UK equivalent).

A macbook at say $699.

What would that do to windows pc sales?
And what do you think the shareholders would do to Tim Cook, they're already getting more than a little hot under the collar.
 

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I don't know - what do you think they would say if Apple took vast numbers of customers away from MS.

Apple are doing very well as it is in case you hadn't noticed.
 

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I don't know - what do you think they would say if Apple took vast numbers of customers away from MS.

Apple are doing very well as it is in case you hadn't noticed.
You're obviously not a shareholder, it's all about the margin, have a look at the rotten fruit companies share price. That's what happens when you bring out a cheaper product.
 

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It's coming....
Well, quite impressive for an OS that is much hated by stubborn peoples that don't want to see Windows 8's positive side.
 

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It's coming....
Well, quite impressive for an OS that is much hated by stubborn peoples that don't want to see Windows 8's positive side.

I'm not sure how many times people need to be reminded, often it seems, that the vast majority of complaints about Windows 8 have nothing to do with the underlying OS, but everything to do with the MPI, the UI, especially when it comes to desktop users. Stubborn are the people that will not accept that many, quite legitimately, do not like the UI for desktop use.
 

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