Microsoft's 'Blue' not just for Windows

As we've known for a few months, the Windows client team at Microsoft is working on its first "feature pack" update for Windows 8, supposedly due this summer/fall, which is code-named Blue.

But it turns out Blue isn't a Windows thing only, according to one very accurate tipster of mine who doesn't want to be identified.

Blue also is the way Microsoft is referring to the next substantial platform update for Windows Phone, the Windows Services (like SkyDrive, Hotmail, etc.), and Windows Server, according to my source. In other words, Blue is a wave of product refreshes which are not expected to arrive exactly all on the same day, but which are meant to be released more or less around the same time.

Read more at source:
Microsoft's 'Blue' not just for Windows | Microsoft - CNET News
 
And they will probably charge us extra until we get blue in the face - that's why it's 'Blue"
 

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And they will probably charge us extra until we get blue in the face - that's why it's 'Blue"

Or more Blue Screens Of Death! :cool:
 

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This is real interesting. I have to wonder though, if Windows 8 has more significance to Microsoft than what we think. Before Windows vista and after 95, Windows was on a two year release, and xp was released a year after Windows 2000. vista was to have come out in 2003, two years after xp. Probably, there would had been a newer updated Windows version a year after vista, two years later, a new version. The one year in between versions would just be simple changes, UI updates; nothing too dramatic or revolutionary, but able to adapt to a newer market of PCs. xp for example, was better suited for digital media than 2000, vista would had seen a HUGE expansion with digital media with a feature such as Libraries, which wasn't released in Windows 7 in 2009.

vista screwed things up. Windows 8 is getting things back on track possibly.
 

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Coke, I don't think that they are doing the blue stuff following your logic.

The main reason is probably financial - they need a more regular cash flow and not the dramatic ups and downs inherent in the current release patterns. They will charge extra for every blue layer - smaller amounts than for a full new version, but on a constant regular basis. That way they get their maintenance financed and we don't have to dish out a big amount each time - but in sum, it will probably be more than in the past.
 

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Coke, I don't think that they are doing the blue stuff following your logic.

The main reason is probably financial - they need a more regular cash flow and not the dramatic ups and downs inherent in the current release patterns. They will charge extra for every blue layer - smaller amounts than for a full new version, but on a constant regular basis. That way they get their maintenance financed and we don't have to dish out a big amount each time - but in sum, it will probably be more than in the past.
Of course they'll be charging an amount for those updates. The idea right now is that they'll be using the Windows Store to do so, kind of like how apple does it with mac os unfortunately.
 

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Coke, I don't think there was a two years patern for issueing new Windows versions. It happens that XP lasted a very long time, just after the developement period of Windows: W95, W98, W98SE, ME, 2000 and XP + the NT serie. With XP it was the end of the W9x serie and the start of the NT serie as only OS. From that point we had XP, XP SP1, XP SP2 and XP SP3. A technical but necessary evolution. With Vista they changed the look and feel of XP SP3, but the basics are still the same. If not for Aero, you could have called XP SP4 as well, and W7, XP SP5.
Perhaps with W8 we will see faster changes in the look-and-feel, as the strategy at Microsoft becomes more fashion based. With the handheld devices, mobile computering became even much more commercial, much more based on short term demand and trend. That's why they came up with Metro: If something booms on the smartphones app area, they want to make sure they can port it on Windows instantly.
 

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I read that they are going to start that blue stuff in Office too. With Office 2013 and Office 365 that is going to get really confusing.
 

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It's always a great idea to cause confusion in the marketplace.

The overall plan seems to be to exhort as many into their online services ( and any other revenue generating wheezes they can think up ). Eventual aim - get the os online - charge for using/storing it plenty of revenue from renting software, ads, complete control of what you can run on your devices, surveillance.

Sounds lovely - can't wait for that.
 

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I can just imagine ad driven software. Halfway through a Word document, you get interrupted by an ad for printer ink for your specific printer (which is identified through your device manager) and you can't get out of it until it's played completely through. A helpful service brought to you by your software company.
 

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Of course - it is all for your own good.
 

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I can just imagine ad driven software. Halfway through a Word document, you get interrupted by an ad for printer ink for your specific printer (which is identified through your device manager) and you can't get out of it until it's played completely through. A helpful service brought to you by your software company.

I hope you are wron. At that time I would disconnect from the internet.
 

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Coke, I don't think there was a two years patern for issueing new Windows versions. It happens that XP lasted a very long time, just after the developement period of Windows: W95, W98, W98SE, ME, 2000 and XP + the NT serie. With XP it was the end of the W9x serie and the start of the NT serie as only OS. From that point we had XP, XP SP1, XP SP2 and XP SP3. A technical but necessary evolution. With Vista they changed the look and feel of XP SP3, but the basics are still the same. If not for Aero, you could have called XP SP4 as well, and W7, XP SP5.
Perhaps with W8 we will see faster changes in the look-and-feel, as the strategy at Microsoft becomes more fashion based. With the handheld devices, mobile computering became even much more commercial, much more based on short term demand and trend. That's why they came up with Metro: If something booms on the smartphones app area, they want to make sure they can port it on Windows instantly.
There was a period where Windows was at a two year release. The general consensus says that Microsoft releases, on average, a new Windows version every 2-3 years. The thing is though, before 95, it wasn't on that cycle for obvious reasons. After vista came 7 less than three years later. There was a cycle of 98 to 2000 in two years, xp a year later, and vista slated for October 2003. There was SOMETHING there to suggest a two year cycle, and they should had done that because if they had, Windows would had been better suited to match current trends and different PCs quicker.
 

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I can just imagine ad driven software. Halfway through a Word document, you get interrupted by an ad for printer ink for your specific printer (which is identified through your device manager) and you can't get out of it until it's played completely through. A helpful service brought to you by your software company.
Office 2010 Starter had something like that, except it never bothered you during document work.

I don't get this notion that Microsoft is somehow becoming google and becoming a primary advertising company. They just aren't. There are things even in the guidelines of metro app designing that DOES NOT ALLOW advertising on live tiles or adverts to pop up anywhere like that.
 

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I read that they are going to start that blue stuff in Office too. With Office 2013 and Office 365 that is going to get really confusing.
Some speculation that the Blue wave will be from Bing.com to Outlook.com to SkyDrive to the Desktop to Office to IE and on. If anything, it just seems like a rapid release cycle that google chrome is on, mostly just code tweaks but nothing too major, some UI addons and improvements.
 

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Coke, I am not sure that this will be for minor tweaks. If they want to charge us, they will have to put meat on the bone.
 

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I don't get this notion that Microsoft is somehow becoming google and becoming a primary advertising company. They just aren't. There are things even in the guidelines of metro app designing that DOES NOT ALLOW advertising on live tiles or adverts to pop up anywhere like that.

How do we know that? Who is to say things don't change. You know, as some keep saying 'evolve or die'.
 

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I don't get this notion that Microsoft is somehow becoming google and becoming a primary advertising company. They just aren't. There are things even in the guidelines of metro app designing that DOES NOT ALLOW advertising on live tiles or adverts to pop up anywhere like that.

How do we know that? Who is to say things don't change. You know, as some keep saying 'evolve or die'.

How do YOU know that? I know that because that's been stated in white papers released from Microsoft about metro app development for Windows 8 that bans that, if an app is submitted and is found to violate that commandment, it's not released. Also, Microsoft doesn't have a history of using user data history and private information in emails to advertise to you, nor tracks you across Bing to Outlook or SkyDrive to advertise personally to you. They just don't and they most likely won't because they KNOW that's what differentiates them from google.
 

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How do YOU know that? I know that because that's been stated in white papers released from Microsoft about metro app development for Windows 8 that bans that, if an app is submitted and is found to violate that commandment, it's not released. Also, Microsoft doesn't have a history of using user data history and private information in emails to advertise to you, nor tracks you across Bing to Outlook or SkyDrive to advertise personally to you. They just don't and they most likely won't because they KNOW that's what differentiates them from google.

I never suggested that it will happen, I merely suggested that things can change. I've heard companies say many things that supposedly will never happen, yet they do. And on that note, isn't Windows 8 and the app stores supposed to emulate, or try to catch up with, Apple and Google and their app store business models, because that's apparently where Microsoft is falling behind in the consumer market?

White Papers are concept documents and readily disposable, just like this:

best-toilet-paper.jpg
 

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Bing was overtaken by Yandex - check it out - you might like it.

yandex.jpg

Yandex


Don't they do apps which contain ads - usually free ones?

Aren't there even some ads in the bundled crapps?


I don't know what is going on the store - wasn't the review posted up here recently complaining the music app showed a bunch of ads ?

How are they going to target them - bit of waste beaming tampon ads to Ray 8 - you might think they would send him something he is more likely to be suckered into buying.
 

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