Windows was ideal for this and had an upper hand above Ubuntu when it comes to offline users.
When MS will fully transform like this, they will loose me as a user.
Having to become 100% dependent on internet just like it's possible with cigarettes and alcohol it's not my way of living.
And the Solaria thing mentioned above just creeps me out... although I like Isaac Asimov stories.
Office 2010 is fine, In the far future Open or LibreOffice will probably be used in this scenario.
But they can continue this way, no problem, because just a single user will be lost: me, possibly a few others.
Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
You don't have to use what others use... for home usage at least (for work it's another story).
Even if the big part of what you run is online based, the OS will be "offline" on your physical disk installed.
If they will (one day) attempt to switch to cloud OS as the main product (see Windows Azure as inspiration) that is something totally different than what we mostly use today.
There will always be alternatives in the minority even if the online plague will get the majority.
I can survive between both worlds and what is trendy will not affect me that much. It's just that I prefer offline since my online connection is not that fast and sometimes it can fail.
If you look at Windows, they began offline with CD installers. Now they try a new approach that has to be better (online) at least for the big consumer base.
Ubuntu on the other hand began online but then, some people saw the disadvantage: internet is not 100% omnipresent and something inspired form the classical Windows was born: SuperOS based on Ubuntu has offline installers, at least for drivers (on Windows it's since always possible to install drivers offline).
All technology in informatics has a purpose, if something will win a usage battle and gains users and reputation, that will make it more popular. You use what you like (you mostly understand how that works) and if you don't agree with some approaches just don't use them, as long as you can afford to do that.
If computing does go that way, I'll cheerfully destroy mine, and go buy books, or go back to a non-internet XP-based world. If I can't compute the way *I* choose to, well then, there isn't much point continuing, is there? I *won't* use cloud-based programs like Office 327 or whatever, and would *never* even consider a cloud-based OS. Yes, you read that correctly, *NEVER*.
Way to go Wenda. . .
Admittedly I have the same feeling toward the cloud, but I would never say never, and more and more I'm starting to see the sense in it.
12 months ago I felt just as strongly about it as you, now not so much.
I've been playing around with these things for over 25 years, but have only had the net for about four of those. For me, there's the security issue, there's also the matter of trust ie I don't, as a rule. And I'd rather pay for my OS and programs once, not per-use or as a subscription, and tend to use free or shareware progs rather than pay for a retail package. I'm not rich, by any stretch, nor do I like being tied-in to anything.
sometimes we get too reliant on technology so get totally lost when it fails - for example you can read every day how people drive to some really strange places when their GPS fails -- they've forgotten how to read maps or even basic road signs.
I've defeated some quite clever "tech wizzes" by using some really Low tech solutions -- for example NOTHING - but NOTHING (CIA/ NSA etc will agree) beats a one-time pad for code encryption - even a "Quantum computer" if we could make the hardware.
One-time pad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
File sharing "snoopers" can be defeated simply by using "Snail Mail" etc.
There was a great 2 part program on Discovery Science Channel recently called Alien Invasion. - This wasn't a Science fiction or "Roswell conspiracy theory" program but a very reasoned discussion on what would we do in the case of a possible extraterrestial threat.
Here's another reference to a similar program
Watch: Alien Invasion: Are We Ready? Documentary (Documentary) Online Free
Discussions included top brass military, scientists from Atlanta disease control center, physicists and engineers from around the world.
Incredibly interesting program - but the end consensus seemed to be was forget trying to defeat these people using technology - but disperse as much military and civil resources as possible and wage a low tech Guerrilla war causing the vastly superior enemy to lose so much via continual attrition that in the end the logistics would work against them and they'd leave.
We've got partial example of this strategy being successful on Earth -- US in Vietnam, Russians in Afghanistan, possibly British in N.I etc etc.
I certainly wouldn't trust all my data /other needs to some "service" over which I (and in a lot of cases not even a Government that I've voted for) had any control or say over in how this is managed and protected - and as we all know services can just vanish overnight for all sorts of reasons.
I'm certainly not by any stretch a "Luddite" and like new technology - but WE need to control it not let IT control US.
Internet only stuff is fine in a lot of cases - for example replying to this very forum - but for a lot of other stuff -- NO THANKS--the cloud can as far as I'm concerned remain firmly in "CLOUD CUCKOO LAND".
I would have been one of the first people to do online banking in Australia, I used to ring my bank to see when they were going online, they didn't even know what that meant. Never had a problem, I think the cloud is going to be the same, but I'll always do backups and be as careful as possible.
Last edited by BillWindows; 31 Jan 2013 at 05:34.