Solved Floppy disk (A:) ???

t-4-2

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Win 8 Preview installed in VMware.

What is Flopy Disk A: ? I mean what is floppy disk doing in win 8 ? Last time I used floppy disk was like 20 years ago.

floppy disk drive A - win 8.jpg
 

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If you haven't done so already, disable the floppy disk controller in your BIOS.
 

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If you haven't done so already, disable the floppy disk controller in your BIOS.

Before I go to the Bios, one question......
The manufacturer's motherboard is responsible for the Bios layout and features, not the OS.
So, why it shows floppy disk drive in Win 8 and not in Win 7 ? ( I am having Win 8 inside VMware in a Win 7 laptop.)

t-4-2
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 7741Z
If you haven't done so already, disable the floppy disk controller in your BIOS.

Before I go to the Bios, one question......
The manufacturer's motherboard is responsible for the Bios layout and features, not the OS.
So, why it shows floppy disk drive in Win 8 and not in Win 7 ? ( I am having Win 8 inside VMware in a Win 7 laptop.)

t-4-2

As you're running Windows 8 in a Virtual Machine, you can still disable it in the VM BIOS. As the VM is starting, press F2, select the drive, then disable (image) If I remember, you can also edit the VM 'vmx' file, which you can find wherever you store your Virtual machines. The file will be called {name of your vm}.vmx and can be edited with a standard text editor. If you add:

floppy0.present = "false" or maybe floppy1.present = "false"

It should have the desired effect.

The reason you don't see it in Windows 7, is because I imaging you're running 7 on a 'real' PC where the setting in the BIOS has already been disabled, if it even existed, which it may not on a modern motherboard.
 

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If you haven't done so already, disable the floppy disk controller in your BIOS.

Before I go to the Bios, one question......
The manufacturer's motherboard is responsible for the Bios layout and features, not the OS.
So, why it shows floppy disk drive in Win 8 and not in Win 7 ? ( I am having Win 8 inside VMware in a Win 7 laptop.)

t-4-2

As you're running Windows 8 in a Virtual Machine, you can still disable it in the VM BIOS. As the VM is starting, press F2, select the drive, then disable (image) If I remember, you can also edit the VM 'vmx' file, which you can find wherever you store your Virtual machines. The file will be called {name of your vm}.vmx and can be edited with a standard text editor. If you add:

floppy0.present = "false" or maybe floppy1.present = "false"

It should have the desired effect.

The reason you don't see it in Windows 7, is because I imaging you're running 7 on a 'real' PC where the setting in the BIOS has already been disabled, if it even existed, which it may not on a modern motherboard.

Hi there

It's a VIRTUAL MACHINE so why not have a "Floppy disk" type virtual device available -- you can use an image instead of a physical device if you want. (Same for a CD / DVD drive which you can use as an .ISO image too instead of a physical device).

If say you want to run Windows 95/95 or even Windows 3.11 in a virtual machine you might want the floppy disk option.

You don't have to use it as the previous poster said -- and I'll bet some people on this board have never even seen one but there's no harm in providing legacy emulation in the virtual bios for people who want to run those type of virtual machines.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Before I go to the Bios, one question......
The manufacturer's motherboard is responsible for the Bios layout and features, not the OS.
So, why it shows floppy disk drive in Win 8 and not in Win 7 ? ( I am having Win 8 inside VMware in a Win 7 laptop.)

t-4-2

As you're running Windows 8 in a Virtual Machine, you can still disable it in the VM BIOS. As the VM is starting, press F2, select the drive, then disable (image) If I remember, you can also edit the VM 'vmx' file, which you can find wherever you store your Virtual machines. The file will be called {name of your vm}.vmx and can be edited with a standard text editor. If you add:

floppy0.present = "false" or maybe floppy1.present = "false"

It should have the desired effect.

The reason you don't see it in Windows 7, is because I imaging you're running 7 on a 'real' PC where the setting in the BIOS has already been disabled, if it even existed, which it may not on a modern motherboard.

Hi there

It's a VIRTUAL MACHINE so why not have a "Floppy disk" type virtual device available -- you can use an image instead of a physical device if you want. (Same for a CD / DVD drive which you can use as an .ISO image too instead of a physical device).

If say you want to run Windows 95/95 or even Windows 3.11 in a virtual machine you might want the floppy disk option.

You don't have to use it as the previous poster said -- and I'll bet some people on this board have never even seen one but there's no harm in providing legacy emulation in the virtual bios for people who want to run those type of virtual machines.

Cheers
jimbo


Making a change to the BIOS of the Windows 8 VM, will only affect that VM. Any new Virtual Machines created will have their own BIOS.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7 x64 Ultimate/Windows 8.1/Linux
    CPU
    FX-8350
    Motherboard
    GA-990XA-UD3
    Memory
    16GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD7860
    Sound Card
    Xonar Essence STX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
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    Various
    PSU
    Corsair HX 850W
    Case
    Corsair Obsidian
    Cooling
    Thermalright
    Keyboard
    Logitech
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    Logitech
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    50/50
    Browser
    firefox
Thank you to everyone for your replies.
I don't really need to disable it. I was justing wondering why it even existed. I can just simply leave it alone.
Besides, it is just a " preview " version. I migh not even care to buy the real release.

t-4-2
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 7741Z
As you're running Windows 8 in a Virtual Machine, you can still disable it in the VM BIOS. As the VM is starting, press F2, select the drive, then disable (image) If I remember, you can also edit the VM 'vmx' file, which you can find wherever you store your Virtual machines. The file will be called {name of your vm}.vmx and can be edited with a standard text editor. If you add:

floppy0.present = "false" or maybe floppy1.present = "false"

It should have the desired effect.

The reason you don't see it in Windows 7, is because I imaging you're running 7 on a 'real' PC where the setting in the BIOS has already been disabled, if it even existed, which it may not on a modern motherboard.

Hi there

It's a VIRTUAL MACHINE so why not have a "Floppy disk" type virtual device available -- you can use an image instead of a physical device if you want. (Same for a CD / DVD drive which you can use as an .ISO image too instead of a physical device).

If say you want to run Windows 95/95 or even Windows 3.11 in a virtual machine you might want the floppy disk option.

You don't have to use it as the previous poster said -- and I'll bet some people on this board have never even seen one but there's no harm in providing legacy emulation in the virtual bios for people who want to run those type of virtual machines.

Cheers
jimbo


Making a change to the BIOS of the Windows 8 VM, will only affect that VM. Any new Virtual Machines created will have their own BIOS.

That's the WHOLE POINT !!!!!. However all VM's created with say VMWARE will have the same DEFAULT Virtual Bios.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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It's good it' s solved now. I'm a bit late here sorry.

Normally all the new machines you create in VMware use a virtual floppy drive by default.

You can remove the floppy drive from the list of devices in the machine settings window:
floppy.png
Uncheck the checkbox "connect at power on" if you decide not to delete the floppy.

You can go in the BIOS but the UI settings window can do the trick.

That's all to it

Cheers
Hopachi
 

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It's good it' s solved now. I'm a bit late here sorry.

Normally all the new machines you create in VMware use a virtual floppy drive by default.

You can remove the floppy drive from the list of devices in the machine settings window:
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Uncheck the checkbox "connect at power on" if you decide not to delete the floppy.

You can go in the BIOS but the UI settings window can do the trick.

That's all to it

Cheers
Hopachi

As far as I'm aware, removing a hardware device from settings, only removes the object from the VM status-bar tools and the VM removable-devices option, it won't actually remove the drive from within the OS.
 

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    Benq
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You are totally right on this one Calico.

My apologies. I just find it a bit difficult to get into VMware BIOS because it's only a fraction of a second visible . And the floppy doesn't annoy me since VMware includes it on all OS types. But yes I've checked it now and you have to go in BIOS after all. :zip:

Thanks
Hopachi
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.
You are totally right on this one Calico.

My apologies. I just find it a bit difficult to get into VMware BIOS because it's only a fraction of a second visible . And the floppy doesn't annoy me since VMware includes it on all OS types. But yes I've checked it now and you have to go in BIOS after all. :zip:

Thanks
Hopachi

There's a couple of things you can do to make it easier to access the BIOS.

1. Edit the vmx file for the VM:
a. Find the location of your VM vmx file
b. Edit the file with a text editor
c, Add the line bios.bootdelay = 50000 (modify the value to suite)

2. Use the 'Boot On to BIOS' option:
a. Open VMWare
b. Select VM/Power On/Boot On to BIOS
 

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    Graphics Card(s)
    HD7860
    Sound Card
    Xonar Essence STX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq
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    1920x1080
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    Corsair HX 850W
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    Corsair Obsidian
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Yes I've heard about this workaround. Good one.
But then the vm will take that extra time to boot up because of the bios delay.

The 50000 value: that in milliseconds, right? So you have 50 seconds time to enter the bios!
That's more than enough. All I gotta do is press ESC button once to enter bios.

Thanks
Hopachi
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.
Talking about floppy drives:

VMware Player 4.0.3 released:

# The following issues are resolved
* VMware floppy device out-of-bounds memory write
- Due to a flaw in the virtual floppy configuration it was possible to perform an out-of-bounds memory write. This vulnerability allowed a guest user to crash the VMX process or to potentially execute code on the host.
* VMware SCSI device unchecked memory write
- Due to a flaw in the SCSI device registration it was possible to perform an unchecked write into memory. This vulnerability allowed a guest user to crash the VMX process or to potentially execute code on the host.


Download VMware Player 4.0.3 - Change Log - FileHippo.com

Just to mention it here.

 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.
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