Tablets will never replace Desktop computing

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I don't understand why some people keep saying that Tablet is the "new" way, and desktop is the "old"/"classic" way. It seems they misunderstand something very basic. Rather,they are just DIFFERENT ways of doing things and are co-exist together.

Let me explain.
Tablet and mobile/Touch devices are growing but it will never "replace" desktop computing. As long as human being sit on a chair and work in front of a table. Years ago, people won't be able to use computer efficiently while "moving around". With the introduction of advance mobile devices, it is now become possible. However, it's the funniest joke I've ever heard in my life to claim that mobile devices will replace desktop computing. If you say tablet is going to replace desktop then you are claiming that in the future, people won't sit and work in front of a table/desk in the workplace, which is the most comfortable position to work for thousands years! It is uncomfortable to use a touch devices in this static position. E.g: raising your arm to reach the touch screen monitor? Bending your neck to work on a tablet? Definitely not for a long duration..This is just backward thinking if you are trying to use those devices in a non-moving position. Tablets and mobile devices are only great while you are in motion or short-term data consumption.

Windows RT/8 will be successful due to the fact that Tablet market is growing, but they dare not to remove desktop mode in the future. In a desktop environment, desktop mode is still a lot more efficient than metro mode.
 

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Never say never they say. I'll assume you've been around for a while to see technological changes.

Hand calculated/written computers (People were called computers pre-WWII) -> Babbage's Difference machine -> Desktop mechanical calculator -> Mainframe electronic computers -> Desktop PCs -> Laptops -> Notebooks -> Smartphones -> PADDs -> Hybrids -> ???

See the pattern? Smaller -> Smaller -> Smaller

Throw in the advancing use of the radio wave spectrum -> WiFi -> We'll get into Super WiFi soon = More and more mobile.

Work-at-home employees in some businesses has increasing and will continue to increase. The more one works, the more one makes scenario. Businesses don't have to maintain a facility. I realize some cannot adopt this tactic.

I don't get the reaching-our-arms scenario. We do to type and mouse use. I have an idea that replaces the keyboard to aid with touch devices, but I desire not to give up my trade secret.

How about lowering the desktop height to coffee table height? Would a touch screen work then? Flat or at a certain angle? I've sat with my PC for a short time at a coffee table while I was remodeling my office once. I didn't find it difficult to crouch over in this position.

Not accusing you or any one individual, but I'm amazed at how many fight the growing technological concept of touch navigation. I think touch is here to stay. The more people buy this technology the more companies like MS, Apple, Google, OEMs, etc. will advance it with their products, whether it be hardware or software.

Personally I try to adapt to what is, not what I want things to be. The weather, the world, people, or whatever. Perhaps I'm different.

Will the desktop PC be replaced? I tend to think so, but I probably won't see it in my lifetime. I have about 20 years left, if I'm lucky.
 

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We're moving away from physical desktops, and there's no denying that. Even in the enterprise, physical desktops will be phased out. My personal guess would be within the next five to seven years. There are two things behind this.

One is BYOD and the increase in functionality that tablets have. Outside of specialized applications, I would say that most office work doesn't need the high-powered workstations or multiple monitors that have become vogue in offices. Furthermore, as tablet features continue to advance, we're going to see more docking solutions for them, so in the office you'll be able to plug in to your mouse, keyboard, and widescreen display.

The second is the increasing use of virtualization, VDI, and the ability to pass through high-powered GPUs to virtual machines. It is now possible to run AutoCAD flawlessly within a virtual machine. The same can be said for Photoshop and other CPU and GPU intensive applications. As a result, we aren't going to need high-powered workstations even for these. A simple thin client can be used at a desk, with all of the processing performed on the server hosting the VDI. This also means being able to run all of your enterprise's software from anything with a decent internet connection that has a remote desktop client.

The traditional desktop as we know it is definitely on the way out.
 

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Things getting smaller, but everything has a limit. (Phones are getting larger in the last 2 years btw)
Sometimes, we need to go back to the very basic. Technology = Make people life easier and more comfortable.

If the screen goes too small, it would be uncomfortable for the human eyes. I dare to say that 20+" monitor sitting on your desk with a viewing angle (parallel) to your eyes and neck, is not going to be replaced in the next 20 years until 3D holographic projection become standard in the future. But even that, nothing going to replace the most comfortable viewing angle between your eye, neck and your monitor.

People are lazy, moving your mouse with keyboard is still the easier/more efficient than today's touch-screen gesture.
It is an undeniable fact that we need to use more of muscles work for touch screen movement than keyboard+mouse (It is human biology). The only way for something to "replace" keyboards +mouse is to invent something (possibly a new generation of touch screen?) that use SAME or LESS muscles work than keyboard/mouse. Sorry, but today's touch screen technology is too primitive to replace keyboard+mouse in my opinion.

In the near future, it is possible that tablet will BECOME (not replace) desktop computer itself. Plugging your tablet into your 20+" monitor and act as a desktop computer. (Still using keyboard+mouse and same viewing angle(parallel) between your eye, neck and the monitor). Unplug it and you can move around easily and use touch screen on your tablet.


Never say never they say. I'll assume you've been around for a while to see technological changes.

Hand calculated/written computers (People were called computers pre-WWII) -> Babbage's Difference machine -> Desktop mechanical calculator -> Mainframe electronic computers -> Desktop PCs -> Laptops -> Notebooks -> Smartphones -> PADDs -> Hybrids -> ???

See the pattern? Smaller -> Smaller -> Smaller

Throw in the advancing use of the radio wave spectrum -> WiFi -> We'll get into Super WiFi soon = More and more mobile.

Work-at-home employees in some businesses has increasing and will continue to increase. The more one works, the more one makes scenario. Businesses don't have to maintain a facility. I realize some cannot adopt this tactic.

I don't get the reaching-our-arms scenario. We do to type and mouse use. I have an idea that replaces the keyboard to aid with touch devices, but I desire not to give up my trade secret.

How about lowering the desktop height to coffee table height? Would a touch screen work then? Flat or at a certain angle? I've sat with my PC for a short time at a coffee table while I was remodeling my office once. I didn't find it difficult to crouch over in this position.

Not accusing you or any one individual, but I'm amazed at how many fight the growing technological concept of touch navigation. I think touch is here to stay. The more people buy this technology the more companies like MS, Apple, Google, OEMs, etc. will advance it with their products, whether it be hardware or software.

Personally I try to adapt to what is, not what I want things to be. The weather, the world, people, or whatever. Perhaps I'm different.

Will the desktop PC be replaced? I tend to think so, but I probably won't see it in my lifetime. I have about 20 years left, if I'm lucky.
 

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Actually, we are talking about pretty much the same thing.

My definition of desktop computing is like a person is sitting in front of his desk using his computer, eye, neck parallel to the 20+" screen, using keyboard+mouse.
Tablet will become part of desktop computing itself(The tablet is treat as a small-size computer, plugging to the big screen and use keyboard+mouse). But desktop computing will not be "replaced" by the touch-screen and tablet.




We're moving away from physical desktops, and there's no denying that. Even in the enterprise, physical desktops will be phased out. My personal guess would be within the next five to seven years. There are two things behind this.

One is BYOD and the increase in functionality that tablets have. Outside of specialized applications, I would say that most office work doesn't need the high-powered workstations or multiple monitors that have become vogue in offices. Furthermore, as tablet features continue to advance, we're going to see more docking solutions for them, so in the office you'll be able to plug in to your mouse, keyboard, and widescreen display.

The second is the increasing use of virtualization, VDI, and the ability to pass through high-powered GPUs to virtual machines. It is now possible to run AutoCAD flawlessly within a virtual machine. The same can be said for Photoshop and other CPU and GPU intensive applications. As a result, we aren't going to need high-powered workstations even for these. A simple thin client can be used at a desk, with all of the processing performed on the server hosting the VDI. This also means being able to run all of your enterprise's software from anything with a decent internet connection that has a remote desktop client.

The traditional desktop as we know it is definitely on the way out.
 

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Paradigms are changing. Yes, currently it's much easier to type complex things on a keyboard. And large monitors are quite popular and useful. However, those two things do not mean you must have a desktop computer. Phones like the Galaxy SIII can wirelessly transmit to large monitors. And they can use Bluetooth keyboards and mice. So *TODAY* you can use your phone as your primary computer if the apps fit your needs.

The same is true of Tablets. Many tablets are now "detachable" which means you can detach the screen from the keyboard and carry it around. You plug it in at home, bring it into the office and plug it in, and you keep the same computer in both places, plus you can use it as a tablet on the go.

This will become more and more commonplace, and in 5 or so years, the people that don't need a high powered desktop will likely all be using personal computing devices as their primary computer.
 

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Actually, we are talking about pretty much the same thing. My definition of desktop computing is like a person is sitting in front of his desk using his computer, eye, neck parallel to the 20+" screen, using keyboard + mouse.

When I speak of the desktop, I mean the actual, physical workstation. It seems you and I understand "desktop computing" very differently.

This will become more and more commonplace, and in 5 or so years, the people that don't need a high powered desktop will likely all be using personal computing devices as their primary computer.

Within five years, no one will need a high-powered workstation. If, right now, I can run AutoCAD on a thin client because the server hosting the virtual machine can do all the video processing using RemoteFX or some similar technology, and pass that on to the thin client, then you really can't say I would need a workstation for AutoCAD. In VMware Workstation 9 (and I believe ESXi 5.1), you can run a hypervisor inside of a virtual machine. That means, with the right disk architecture on the server(s), you don't need a workstation to run a virtual lab for testing. We are rapidly approaching the point where the physical desktop PC is not going to be needed.
 

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It's all been said before, but totally agree with thread author.

It's not a case of either/or, but both/and. Touch has a place on mobile devices, and at the moment that market is explanding at an exponential rate. But that doesn't mean traditional desktop PC has demised. Who would want touch when sitting at a desktop? You can access everything by simply swivelling your hand at the wrist joint and moving your fingers on a mouse. If you're sitting at a PC for 4, 5 or even 6 hours, which I've done many times, who wants to constantly be lifting and moving their whole arm? Surely you'd get RSI, (repetitive strain injury)?

A lot of people don't want cloud storage or even mobile devices. Most everyone I know have both desktop and mobile, but a lot don't have cloud. And my desktop PC is running extreme mobo, extreme 6 core/12thread CPU, 16GB RAM, with 3 SLI linked graphics cards, with radiator cooling. Put that in a mobile device? No way Hosea! And play hi-speed games with touch on the big screen? Are you out of your cotton pickin mind!

Frankly with all the hype of modern technology sometimes I just feel like retiring to a quiet cave with a stylus and wax tablet a la Romans. Who really needs to be joined at the hip to the etherenet 24/7?

We can theorize and speculate till doomsday, but time will tell, and my money is on traditional desktop ... meaning you're actually sitting at a desk with a tower, mouse and keyboard ... being around for a long time yet.

As someone once said jokingly, MS are bringing out a new micro chip that is inserted by a dentist into your tooth, and downloads data straight from the ethernet into your brain. It comes with a warning: If you've imbibed too many Jack Daniels you risk shoriting out the neurones and frying your brain.

The guy who said it probably had already imbibed a few too many Jacks, and had been watching Aliens, Predator or Terminator.

And besides, how would all the DIY folk have fun eagerly awaiting the next release of Windows so they could have an excuse for building a new tower?
 
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Tablets are nice toys for hauling around - especially the 7" kind. But for serious work, the desktop will prevail.
 

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Tablets are nice toys for hauling around - especially the 7" kind. But for serious work, the desktop will prevail.
:ditto: :thumb:
 

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Paradigms are changing, this is for sure...

This reminded me of a tablet, the Dell Latitude 10. It's an enterprise oriented tablet. It wouldn't had sparked my interest if it weren't for the dock it has.

What's interesting about it is that the dock allows for two monitors, high resolution and a separate keyboard and mouse. THIS, is what the change might shift into, a pure and true All In One device. Unfortunately, it has an Atom processor which is blasphemy to do real work with. But, if the tablet had an i5 processor and a dedicated graphics chip (wouldn't mind the additional bulk) along with a rich I/O docking base to allow for multiple monitors and more USB support, well then! A scenario could emerge that at a work place, you could bring your tablet PC, dock it down and do some real work with it as you would with a desktop with multiple monitors. Have a presentation to do, prop it up Surface style and connect it to the projector and use PowerPoint 2013 for a successful presentation. Ride home on the bus or train, pop on the keyboard dock and use it like a laptop. Get home, you might have that I/O dock with multiple monitors there for work you might have to do. When you want to read a book or browse content or Xbox SmartGlass with your 360, you can keep the tablet close to you.

That is such amazing potential for the tablet PC, I'd love to see this happen more. I won't do it myself as I'm building a new desktop tower, but gee, this something so cool. As time goes on, more processer power and graphics power will definitely propel that. Instead of an i5, maybe go the i7.

But I do agree, the desktop PC won't ever go away, as there are people that demand hardcore performance. I think of AutoCADers, Photoshoppers, gamers, and just general ridiculous processing needs.
 

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Like I said, never say never. When they work out the heat problem of electronics, you'll be playing all sorts of games on mobile devices. Those tiny little electrons are the problem. Let's look into bio, shall we?
 

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But I do agree, the desktop PC won't ever go away, as there are people that demand hardcore performance. I think of AutoCADers, Photoshoppers, gamers, and just general ridiculous processing needs.

Who says that will require a physical desktop in five years? If a server can harness a high-powered GPU array to do all the video processing for a thin client or if all the number crunching can be done in a private or public cloud, is a physical desktop still necessary?
 

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who says that tablets are replacing desktops? how about blending the best of both worlds?

I'd totally like a mix of touch and KBM. An example I can think of is Photoshop. I use Photoshop quite often. And one of the things I have to do a lot is zoom in and out of the photo. Why use the zoom tool when I can pinch to zoom in and out with my finger? Zooming with the KBM is a chore. hit "z". then click click click. then "alt". then click click click. the best KBM zoom is the mouse (hold the mouse button and roll left and right (I actually use a trackball)). but why do I have to get out of my brush tool just to zoom? I want to be brushing with my right hand and then using my left hand to occasionally zoom the screen.


Same thing for a web browser. Right now, if you go on a website, its font size might be too small. Sure, you can set the font size on web sites individually. Or use a global setting. But that's cumbersome. And there are keyboard commands to change the font size. But sometimes you mean to zoom one website and you accidentally globally change it so the next site has an enormous font. No wonder there are add-ons for Firefox and Chrome on adjusting text size. Why not pinch to zoom?


One of the reasons I got a TabletPC way back when was I wanted to be able to sketch on the go. But Windows was so clunky. So even though there were some gems (like the handwriting recognition and the ability to recognize pressure points), dealing with the Windows part was a chore.


of course, touch wouldn't be for everything. that's why my phone still has a physical keyboard.
 

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Totally agree.

The size of the desktop pc has been the same since it was invented. The only change we can expect is how powerful desktops will become when so many new micro components can be stuffed with the same casing dimensions. Tablets have only evolved from the now obsolete palm pilots and the purpose will be more or less be the same... as Personal Digital Assistant.
 

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Unfortunately, the title of this thread contains two extreme ly vague items: "tablets" and "desktop computing" -- so, everyone reading it will have a different perspective.

I had a "tablet" at work for years -- and it DID replace the company-provided desktop PC. Why? Because it did everything the desktop PC did and more. Not only was it portable, but being one of the earlier tablets that used a stylus, I was able to replace my Day Timer with it, take it to meetings with me, and use it to hand-write notes. Lasted 5 years, upgrading from XP to Vista to Win7 -- getting better every time.

But, that was an entirely different device than today's tablets -- which are largely multimedia toys. Some are now coming out with the ability to serve double-duty as a portable desktop PC, so in those cases, they are likely to replace desktops.

Will tablet computing ever totally replace desktop computing -- for me, the answer is NO. Why? Because (1) I like using an actual keyboard to type -- touch screens just don't cut it for me, (2) I like having a lot of display real estate in a large monitor -- have a hard time seeing 1080 on a small tablet screen, and (3) I just get tired touching and dragging using my fingers for hours on end, prefer using a mouse to do this. From asking around, I find most other folks feel much the same way.
 

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The answer to this question really depends on the individual. A few months ago, my home got burglarized. They took my i7 desktop and monitor plus a few other expensive electronic items. So, I started working with just my hp envy x2 tablet/laptop hybrid. Being a lazy person that I am, I haven't yet replaced my desktop. So, for the last 3 months I've been working with just my hybrid device. Took it with me everywhere I go. And having been forced into using just this device for work, I've found that I've gotten used to it. It does everything I need. Probably why I haven't found the incentive to buy or build another desktop.

In the office, when we have to run some major computations, we could always use the company desktops. I work for an engineering firm. Other than that, the various computation programs that we use run just fine on my hybrid.

So, I guess my answer would be yes for the most part. Because I've been forced to just work with my hybrid, I've been able to get comfortable with it and use it for everything.

In fact, I'm typing this post really really fast with the envy x2 right now.

What has really amazed me is now that I've been forced to use this device rather than my i7 desktop, I've had to use microstation and autocad a few times to view some files while at home. It works, amazingly enough. I didn't expect it to when I first got it. But if I have to do some heavy editing, I'd have to do it while in the office. This thing isn't powerful enough for me to do heavy editing with these power hungry software.
 

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Sorry to hear of your misfortune, goodintentions. That must be quite a sinking feeling of violation! :(

I hope all went well with your insurance company. As a builder I deal with them from time to time. Mostly fire jobs. I know how they can be. Low prorating is their game. Sometimes worse than the perpetrators themselves.

Anywho, I hope all is well. Thanks for your story. :)
 

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My idea of desktop computing is having a physical mouse and a keyboard. So yeah, I agree. I don't think I will ever get used to typing on a touchsscreen.
 

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Sorry to hear of your misfortune, goodintentions. That must be quite a sinking feeling of violation! :(

I hope all went well with your insurance company. As a builder I deal with them from time to time. Mostly fire jobs. I know how they can be. Low prorating is their game. Sometimes worse than the perpetrators themselves.

Anywho, I hope all is well. Thanks for your story. :)

Well, to be honest I honestly thought burglary was out of fashion these days. You don't hear about it too often. Actually, my case would make it the first I know personally. So, yeah, I came home one day and followed my usual routine. Got some stuff out and ate dinner. Then went to my home office and was puzzled when I noticed my computer set was missing. Looked over to the left for my back up drives and they were gone also.

They left the ipad and a couple other tablets in the bedroom and other places of the house, so I'm guessing they just came in and went out really quickly, grabbing the most obvious things in the office. Who knows.

Yeah, I've cleared it with the insurance. Thank god I kept a backup drive elsewhere. Personally, I don't think there was any question of whether it was insurance fraud or not. My claim was relatively low. I would imagine insurance fraudsters aim for the big bucks.

May I ask what you deal with insurance for being a builder? Like lost equipments and stuff?
 

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