I tried the scans under safe mode and got rid of the webcake desktop and the Win32.Downloader.gen. Malwarebytes didn't even detect the iCrossRider but the spybot S&D did but couldnt get rid of it. I thought I read somewhere where S&D isn't fully compatible with win8 anyway. I'm wondering if I could go in under safe mode and manually remove it?
Anyway 2 down and 1 to go , so im making progress