Some apps run when included in startup folder & some don't

I'm running Win 8. On my brand new computer (Asus X 550BL) I've included
several apps in my startup folder. Some of them run at system start and some don't.

My Firefox starts from startup ok. A batch file used to run my WAMP server
works ok as well.

But my attempt to startup WinAmp fails to start. Manually clicking my WinAmp
desktop shortcut works fine, but it won't 'auto' startup when that same shortcut
is included the startup folder.

This all worked fine in Win 7.

All the startup folder items are set to run as a admin.

Miffed.

eatc7402

Seems like your issue might be related to either an in-place upgrade to Windows 8 and/or attributable to a WinAmp version of 5.56 or higher (had compatibility issues). This old thread suggests that a digression to an earlier version might fix your issue; however, it may no longer be applicable to your current situation. Just consider it as food for thought:

Winamp won't run after upgrade to Windows 8 Pro - Winamp Forums

Hello eatc, and welcome to Eight Forums.

By default, Windows will not run elevated programs at startup for security purposes.

As a workaround, you could create an elevated shortcut for each affected program that requires "Run as administrator" using the method in the tutorial below, then place the elevated shortcuts in your Startup folder.

Elevated Program Shortcut without UAC Prompt - Create - Windows 7 Help Forums

Hope this helps,
Shawn

Brink said:

Hello eatc, and welcome to Eight Forums.

By default, Windows will not run elevated programs at startup for security purposes.

As a workaround, you could create an elevated shortcut for each affected program that requires "Run as administrator" using the method in the tutorial below, then place the elevated shortcuts in your Startup folder.

Elevated Program Shortcut without UAC Prompt - Create - Windows 7 Help Forums

Hope this helps,
Shawn

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I've included
several apps in my startup folder. Some of them run at system start and some don't.

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Hi Shawn,

If that is the case, why some of his other shortcuts work? Just curious as to what I might have overlooked here.

Thanks,

my2cents

The ones that do run at startup may not actually be set to "Run as administrator".

Brink said:

The ones that do run at startup may not actually be set to "Run as administrator".

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OK, thanks for that explanation. I was homing in on the combination of these sentences and maybe I just couldn't put it all together:

I've included several apps in my startup folder. Some of them run at system start and some don't.

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All the startup folder items are set to run as a admin.

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With the above combined, I just thought that WinAmp was an exception so maybe I just got it wrong.

Thank you,

my2cents

Let's wait for eatc to clarify for us.

Brink said:

Let's wait for eatc to clarify for us.

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OKey-doke!

Eatc is right... this is a bug or something i dont yet understand... try to go to windows\system32\ and take taskmgr.exe and create a shortcut to it into your startup folder... C:\Users\(User-Name)\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup then click on the shorcut created, go to properties and select start as minimized.
I tried on different pcs and after restart it never starts. However all other shortcuts i have in that folder will work! This was the first thing i did after installing win 8.1 and unlucky me i think just found the first bug. Then my mouse whichis totally fine on win 7 pcs/s is making double click when i click only once on the left button. Another bug... Damn i think microsoft should hire me to find bugs... or am i just unlucky?
Then i also hate that remember each folder view settings does not exist, and i can not find an app to do that... i hate 8.1 but i like the speed of it

Hello DJ, and welcome to Eight Forums.

By default, folder view settings of a specific folder are remembered for how they were set when the folder was last closed from the location (ex: taskbar vs Start) it was opened from.

This is why the remember each folder view settings is no longer listed in Folder Options.

If they are not being remembered for you, then reset the folder view settings back to default.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/9282-folder-view-settings-reset-default-windows-8-a.html

Hope this helps,
Shawn

Have applied ALL the suggestions and 'fixes'. None of them have solved the problem. I still have
some items item in my Startup Folder starting at boot up and some don't. My original problem
is unchanged .

eatc7402

Hi Brink and thanks for the reply.

Is there any way or app i can use to make each folder remember its view settings? It is frustrating for me because i have a folder for example full of logo images and i want to see it as large thumbails and then if i go one folder up, i need to see everything as list, because i have there many folders. If i set any of those two folders to any view setting, it will auto make both of them use the same settings. It only remembers libraries view settings but i want all my pc folders to remain exactly as i set them... i wonder if Microsoft considers this is too much to ask lol

DJ,

If you are doing this in a library, then that is why this is happening. All added folders in a library will share the same folder view no matter which added folder the view was set in.

Only if you view folders outside of libraries (ex: "C:\Users\(user-name)\Pictures") are the folder views remembered per folder.

Brink, THANKS, you are right. I just noticed this
Please now tell me how can i add the taskmgr.exe to the statup folder, or use whatever method to make it start automatically with windows and also minimized. I am very used to keep an eye on the cpu all the time when i work.
And also how to fix my mouse double click problem. I had to change my mouse because of this... i read on microsoft site that they have many mouse problems in win 8.1 and nothing can be done at this moment

You're welcome DJ.

You should be able to use what I posted above to create an elevated shortcut, and place that in the Startup folder instead.

You should go ahead and post the other issue in a new thread though so as to keep this one on topic. I'll be happy to help with it there.

I created an elevated shortcut with taskschd.exe just like in the above link and now the taskmgr.exe is starting at windows logon. However when i used to add the shortcut to the startup folder in win 7, i set the shortcut properties to start as minimized as i want it to always start as minimized. Now the only problem remaining is how to set it to start as minimized in this case with the task scheduler?

Thanks

DJ,

The problem is that the elevated shortcut of Task Manager actually opens a command prompt that then opens Task Manager elevated. When you set the elevated shortcut to run "Minimized", all it does it run the command prompt minimized which does nothing for Task Manager.

The catch 22 is that elevated programs are not allowed to run at startup unless using this type of workaround which pretty much will not let you run the intended program minimized since the command prompt runs first.

How about making a *.bat file which will run the shortcut for taskmgr with the run minimized set, and make a scheduled task which will run the .bat file?