Apps - What do you make of Apps as a whole?

andrewandy

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Hi,

I like to make a thread here for people to discuss Apps. To be honest i am not really a big fan of them but i do think they have their place on a mobile phone or tablet and not on a powerful computer.
The reason i am not a big fan of Apps is because they are really just cut down versions of programs you have on a computer. On a computer Why would you use an App instead of using the full programe or the website you can go to? I know that Apps are designed to make life easier but i have felt recently as Apps seem to be everywhere these days and are not going away, That they seem to have made people very lazy in computing, Some people cant even be bothered to switch on their pc and this is not a good thing!
Woman are a very good example here as they love their phones and are always using the App version of a programe instead of using a computer and it kinda gets me cross if like me a computer user is using the same programe as they are and they cant access all the features you can, It is really very frustrating!


What do you people think?
Do i have a point?

I like Win 8 and some of the apps are useful but i always seem to goto my desktop and never the Metro to do my computing and to be honest felt the apps are best suited to a tablet as they are are a touch screen.

Andy ;)
 

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fine on a phone or tablet. No point on a desktop or laptop. Too simplistic and feature lacking.
 

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Guess I'm in the minority, but I like the Mail & Calendars apps. My email & calendar needs are simple and the apps fill the bill. Quicker than Outlook, too.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro x64
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Guess I'm in the minority, but I like the Mail & Calendars apps. My email & calendar needs are simple and the apps fill the bill. Quicker than Outlook, too.

A minority on this thread, but not on the forum. There are plenty of members who like and use apps.

I thought the Store apps were too simple and buggy in the RP days. Of course this was in development. As time went on they added more options within the apps and have not had an instability problem whatsoever. I remember stuff like writing a pretty lengthy email in the Mail app and saving as a draft only to find it lost it. That's when I decided I ought to stay on my 7 side for awhile to do business. I would do personal emails in 8 to learn and see how it developed.

There was another heavy-laden graphics app that would take forever to open, run slow, and usually go black screen. I thought if this is what 8 is going to demand that I was in trouble. Duo core / 2GBs RAM / Onboard graphics. I thought then that I may have to update my machine or buy new. I emailed the developers asking for reasons. They asked for my system specs. I guess info from me and others helped them develop more, for the app runs absolutely great. It was free back then but has a price now. Escapist Games

We have to keep apps, their live tiles, resource use, speed, simplicity, and ease of use (once learned) in mind. In other words the whole system, not just Modern/Metro vs Desktop. Don't forget the Share, Devices, and other Charms Bar options. We can't continue to think like dinosaurs anymore.

Here's just one of my thoughts on the old system vs the new: http://www.eightforums.com/general-support/16379-real-quality-boot-time-8-verses-7-a.html

Apps are developed for touch UI and to use less resource to save battery on mobile devices, but they run great on desktop PCs as well. I highly recommend apps. They will be the future.
 

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Hi

been an Android phone user for just over a year and happy most of the time, I went Win 8 tablet route for backwards compatibility with software and hardware and so far so good. What is frustrating things seems to be the poor implementation of the APPS. For example last night I wanted to take a picture using my tablet camera and email to me friend. In Android I take the picture use the sent to > email or a host of other options and hey presto its works. In Windows 8 I get no such options from my default camera app, my ACER camera app gives my Facebook and a photo sharing site but no email. So I have to do it the old way, save the pic, go to mail, open mail and then attach my image (having first located said image). It just does not seem so intuitive to use.

Andy001z
 

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Does it have "Share" in the Charms Bar of the app?
 

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    Acer/Intel E946GZ
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    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3000 - PCI Express x16
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    Acer AL1917W A LCD
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    1440 X 900
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    Dual case fans + CPU fan
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Does it have "Share" in the Charms Bar of the app?

Well in the camera the share does nothing 'nothing to share', ok fair point after all it can't share a live image. But there is no option to go straight to my gallary and share from there (which does have more options). In the Acer app, the share options are limited and do not include email.

OK maybe this is a case of over firmilarity with the Android OS and not the Win 8 metro. But it does not feel as fluid. Oh well I'll grind on.

Andy001z
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8
    Computer type
    Tablet
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Iconia W510
Does it have "Share" in the Charms Bar of the app?

Well in the camera the share does nothing 'nothing to share', ok fair point after all it can't share a live image. But there is no option to go straight to my gallary and share from there (which does have more options). In the Acer app, the share options are limited and do not include email.

OK maybe this is a case of over firmilarity with the Android OS and not the Win 8 metro. But it does not feel as fluid. Oh well I'll grind on.

Andy001z

Is it that 'nothing to share' is because nothing is chosen? There are things goofy in 8 and this is one of them. They should have put "You must pick something to share" or something of that nature.

I don't have the camera app, although I can share in my Photos app. Is your camera app written by MS or Acer?
 

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    Intel Pentium D Dual Core
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    Acer/Intel E946GZ
    Memory
    2GB (max upgrade)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3000 - PCI Express x16
    Sound Card
    Integrated RealTek ALC888 high-definition audio with 7.1 channel audio support
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer AL1917W A LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1440 X 900
    Hard Drives
    350 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
    Thumb drives
    PSU
    Standard 250 watt
    Case
    Desktop 7.2" (183mm) W x 17.5" (445mm) L x 14.5"
    Cooling
    Dual case fans + CPU fan
    Keyboard
    Acer Windows PS/2
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    Wireless Microsoft Arc
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    54mbp/s
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    IE11
    Antivirus
    Defender
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    Office Pro 2013 / Nokia Lumia 1520 Windows Phone 8.1DP GDR1
Well I believe the camera app is MS becuase I have a 2nd one from ACER as decribed in my orginal post. I will take a look at it all again tonight and check.
 

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  • OS
    Win 8
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    Tablet
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    Acer Iconia W510
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