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OK, i'd like to make it clear that i'm using the so-called "real" Administrator account that is hidden but can be activated, not a regular account with admin privelidges. At first i was trying to figure out if Metro apps can be used by this account, and it appeared that they cant, but managed to find a trick to enable it. i did it by making sure UAC is on, making sure that FilterAdministratorToken is set to a value of 1 in the Registry, and by enabling "User Account Control: Admin approval mode for the built-in Administrator account" (secpol.msc [Local Security Policy]> Local Policies> Security Options).
So i did a bit more research and toying around, only to discover that although i might have found a workaround for running most Metro apps in general, i discovered that syncing, d/l'ing of apps from the Windows Store, etc is not possible unless you're using a Microsoft account.Please note that any other account with admin privelidges can use the apps without a hitch, as well as any Standard account. So it clearly is not a limitation of just having an admin account, alone.
Also, the built-in Admin is the only kind of account that cant be converted from a local account to a MS Account, all other accounts with admin privelidges can do so. If you look in the Control Panel and try to make changes to the account, you will find that the option isnt available, whereas with other accounts it is. This brings about the issue of not being able to sync or d/l Store apps. also note that there is a difference between logging into Windows with a MS Account, and simply accessing the apps while using a local account and then manually inputting your MS Account username/password when requested. By signing in with a MS Account no Metro app will ever prompt you to login after youve done so initially the first time, since it remembers your details, unless you've reset your password or account security has been compromised, etc. Judging from what i've read, my workaround enables most Metro apps to function except syncing, d/l'ing of Store apps, and perhaps a few other small things/issues, and so therefore this is not a true solution, since other accounts have none of these issues. Since the option to convert the real Admin account to a MS Account is not available, yet is available to other accounts with admin access as well as Standard accounts, then i (supposedly) cannot use these functions to the fullest extent.
I am the type of person who prefers to use Windows/Linux while logged in as root/Admin rather than a limited user, all day, every day, because i trust myself and my abilities, am very careful, meticulously maintain my systems with the utmost care and caution. i do understand that using Admin is considered to be a security risk, but it's a risk i'm willing to take and i dont mind learning from my mistakes in the event that bad things happen. i do not care to be told by Microsoft how to run my system, what i can do on them, etc. Complete and absolute control is what i demand, at least to the greatest extent possible considering that Windows is proprietary and closed-source, yet i depend on it for many things like running a business, gaming, etc.
I didnt post this to rant or spout my opinions, but to solicit feedback on how this issue(s) can be overcome or worked around without having to use a 2nd account to get the full features of Metro apps. I'm also wondering if there is possibly a way, official, unofficial , or otherwise, of being able to run a Metro app as another user account (whether local or MS Account doesnt really matter, i think), while still remaining on the Metro screen of the real Admin account without having to manually log into my 2nd account and access Metro from there. By perhaps using a "Run As" command/link/shortcut or similar. Maybe that sounded a bit long-winded and confusing, so just read carefully, maybe someone will understand what i'm asking. Also, please inform me if any of my conclusions are incorrect.
Any feedback/help is appreciated!
So i did a bit more research and toying around, only to discover that although i might have found a workaround for running most Metro apps in general, i discovered that syncing, d/l'ing of apps from the Windows Store, etc is not possible unless you're using a Microsoft account.Please note that any other account with admin privelidges can use the apps without a hitch, as well as any Standard account. So it clearly is not a limitation of just having an admin account, alone.
Also, the built-in Admin is the only kind of account that cant be converted from a local account to a MS Account, all other accounts with admin privelidges can do so. If you look in the Control Panel and try to make changes to the account, you will find that the option isnt available, whereas with other accounts it is. This brings about the issue of not being able to sync or d/l Store apps. also note that there is a difference between logging into Windows with a MS Account, and simply accessing the apps while using a local account and then manually inputting your MS Account username/password when requested. By signing in with a MS Account no Metro app will ever prompt you to login after youve done so initially the first time, since it remembers your details, unless you've reset your password or account security has been compromised, etc. Judging from what i've read, my workaround enables most Metro apps to function except syncing, d/l'ing of Store apps, and perhaps a few other small things/issues, and so therefore this is not a true solution, since other accounts have none of these issues. Since the option to convert the real Admin account to a MS Account is not available, yet is available to other accounts with admin access as well as Standard accounts, then i (supposedly) cannot use these functions to the fullest extent.
I am the type of person who prefers to use Windows/Linux while logged in as root/Admin rather than a limited user, all day, every day, because i trust myself and my abilities, am very careful, meticulously maintain my systems with the utmost care and caution. i do understand that using Admin is considered to be a security risk, but it's a risk i'm willing to take and i dont mind learning from my mistakes in the event that bad things happen. i do not care to be told by Microsoft how to run my system, what i can do on them, etc. Complete and absolute control is what i demand, at least to the greatest extent possible considering that Windows is proprietary and closed-source, yet i depend on it for many things like running a business, gaming, etc.
I didnt post this to rant or spout my opinions, but to solicit feedback on how this issue(s) can be overcome or worked around without having to use a 2nd account to get the full features of Metro apps. I'm also wondering if there is possibly a way, official, unofficial , or otherwise, of being able to run a Metro app as another user account (whether local or MS Account doesnt really matter, i think), while still remaining on the Metro screen of the real Admin account without having to manually log into my 2nd account and access Metro from there. By perhaps using a "Run As" command/link/shortcut or similar. Maybe that sounded a bit long-winded and confusing, so just read carefully, maybe someone will understand what i'm asking. Also, please inform me if any of my conclusions are incorrect.
Any feedback/help is appreciated!
My Computer
System One
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- OS
- Windows 8.1 Pro x64, Windows Server 2012 R2 x64
- Computer type
- Laptop
- System Manufacturer/Model
- Lenovo G700
- CPU
- Intel Core i7-3632QM, 2.20 GHz
- Motherboard
- Lenovo
- Memory
- 6 GB DDR3
- Graphics Card(s)
- NVIDIA 720M, Intel HD 4000
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 1 monitor
- Screen Resolution
- 1600x900 (max)
- Hard Drives
- 1 TB HDD (5400 RPM), 1.5 TB HDD (5400 RPM) installed in a 12.7mm disc drive caddy
- Case
- Lenovo
- Keyboard
- Lenovo
- Mouse
- Laptop/notebook keyboard/touchpad
- Internet Speed
- It varies, since I'm mobile most of the time
- Browser
- Chromium (the open-source browser which Google Chrome is derived from)
- Antivirus
- Kaspersky, Malwarebytes, Spybot, Privatefirewall
- Other Info
- I will add more information here later