Does everyone know about indexing?

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Does everyone know about indexing in Windows 8?
If the edge UI search comes up short, have you indexed your computer?

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http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/4595-search-windows-8-a.html
 
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I do now, thanks!
 

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You're welcome snerd! Welcome to the Eight Forums.
 
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Update:
Why the edge UI search and results display is limited to 250 files or 25 rows of 10 is unknown for now. Maybe a registry tweak.

Also: > For performance reasons, or other reasons, it may be best to minimize the number of locations to index or turn off indexing altogether.

Run > services.msc > find Windows Search > right click to select properties >
change the startup type to "disabled" > select to "stop" and yes to "stop services" > click apply and ok

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Also: > For performance reasons, or other reasons, it may be best to minimize the number of locations to index or turn off indexing altogether.

Run > services.msc > find Windows Search > right click to select properties >
change the startup type to "disabled" > select to "stop" and yes to "stop services" > click apply and ok

Will you still be able to search something after you turn the service off?
 

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    That's basically it.
The search using the desktop explorer works fine with indexing turned off.
Why the "file" search results is limited to 25 rows of 10 in the edge UI is unknown to me.
The apps search works fine with indexing off.

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Great idea and post, mdmd! I sense you are very much on top of things. :)

Do you mind if we use this in the sticky thread "Suggested Steps to Take"? If so, I'll place a link to your OP here.
 

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I guess so. Possibly, the edge UI "file search results" works better if one is searching for a particular file name. Apparently it does not do so well with "wildcards" > *.* or *.jpg etc... due to the 25 rows of 10 limit. What if you have 800 jpg's or docs? Only 250 file names appear in the edge UI file search results.
 

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Thanks mdmd. Limit hah? I'm on my phone now but will check on PC.
 

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Limit? Edge UI file search file name limit.

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Holy cow! You have a lot of docs and pics!
 

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On my WIndows 8 Pro install file search works in Desktop but not in Metro and I've messed around with Indexing to try to get it to work to no avail. Interesting though that I installed Windows 8 Enterprise on my work laptop and file searching works in both Desktop and Metro. Have you found anything in the indexing options or registry specific to Metro side?
 

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Nope! It's still a question. As far as indexing goes, unless the panel says "indexing complete" it may not function properly if any changes were made to locations. If every location is entered, C:*.* - all of Windows - everything > and the indexing operation completed, it should be available in the edge UI using wildcards. Even if the indexed locations are restricted to document folders, when the indexing is completed, the search should work?! I don't have the answer yet why there is a 250 file name limit.
I would like to know the registry entry locations that pertain to the edge UI search!
 

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I see. You can still search in Explorer. That's more than enough for me.

Also applied it to Win7 but for both cases, the search in the libraries is not working (they were indexed locations) but this is a known thing so I'm not complaining. I should also check to see if the index file is deleted (located in ProgramData somewhere, it can get big especially with a lot of files on the drive).

Thanks for the tweak mdmd.
 

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    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
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    16GB
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    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
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    IDT HD Audio
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    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
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    slow and steady
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    Windows Defender
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    That's basically it.
Yeah. You can add or remove locations.
This is the default on 8 Enterprise Eval. (not much!)

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I don't search a lot but was miffed by the edge UI search results showing

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    1920x1080
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    logitech washable K310
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    Totally silent. No fans at all.
Nice reminder, thanks. Just added my data drive.
 

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In dire need of the ability to index network locations, it's not a Windows 8 specific problem as this problem started with Windows 7. However in Windows 8 it is more of an issue because the Metro Apps like Music, Video and Photes seem to only like Library locations. If the locations are not indexed the media does not show up in these Apps automatically and manually searching them is slow, again because of no indexing.
 

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    Windows 7, Windows 8 RP
In dire need of the ability to index network locations, it's not a Windows 8 specific problem as this problem started with Windows 7. However in Windows 8 it is more of an issue because the Metro Apps like Music, Video and Photes seem to only like Library locations. If the locations are not indexed the media does not show up in these Apps automatically and manually searching them is slow, again because of no indexing.

You can't index network locations remotely. What you can do is enabling indexing on the computer that hosts the network share. Your Windows client will connect to the remote index for search.
 

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