Diagnostic software to determine if I can benefit from mor

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I recently purchased a new 11" Dell laptop with 4GB of RAM running Windows 8.1 and a relatively weak processor (Quad core Pentium - compared with an i3,i5,i7). I know that replacing my 5400RPM hard drive with an SSD can vastly improve my performance, but I'm also wondering if upgrading my RAM to 8GB could help also. Is there a RAM diagnostic tool that can monitor the performace within Windows 8.1 and let me know if I can significantly benefit by installing more RAM?

Thanks
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
I recently purchased a new 11" Dell laptop with 4GB of RAM running Windows 8.1 and a relatively weak processor (Quad core Pentium - compared with an i3,i5,i7). I know that replacing my 5400RPM hard drive with an SSD can vastly improve my performance, but I'm also wondering if upgrading my RAM to 8GB could help also. Is there a RAM diagnostic tool that can monitor the performace within Windows 8.1 and let me know if I can significantly benefit by installing more RAM?

Thanks
Open Task Manger and check what's going on, if your Memory usage keeps on getting close to 100%, than you can benefit from some more RAM.
I also use this: MemInfo - Carthago Software to monitor RAM usage.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD
Does it run 32 or 64 bit Windows 8? If 32 bit then no point in adding ram as it won't be used. You would have to switch to a 64 bit version which means a clean install.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050@59Hz
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
Before you go out and buy more RAM, consider tweaking the OS to better manage the RAM it has.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1, x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel i5 4690K @ Stock
    Motherboard
    ASUS Z97-K
    Memory
    Corsair XM3 DDR3 1600MHz @ 1333MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS 760 OC @ Stock
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    [1] ASUS, 23", AH-IPS, 16:9 [2] Samsung TV, 20", LCD TFT, 16:9
    Screen Resolution
    [1] 1920 x 1080, 60Hz [2] 1680 x 1050, 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Internal: 500GB, 1TB, (plus SanDisk, SATAIII, 120GB SSD)
    External: 250GB USB2, 1TB External USB3
    PSU
    Corsair TX750 Enthusiast Edition
    Case
    Zalman Z11
    Cooling
    Air - 9 Total Fans
    Keyboard
    Xebec Media Line
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical
    Internet Speed
    Approx. 550KBps DL, 100KBps UL (EE)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Internet Security
    Other Info
    It's "tower," not desktop!
Before you go out and buy more RAM, consider tweaking the OS to better manage the RAM it has.

I don't personally have issues with RAM, but what are some tips or advice on how to better manage your RAM? From my understanding Windows default settings do a phenomenal job at managing RAM memory. Just searching for any possible improvements that I haven't heard of?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro 64-Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    N/A
    CPU
    AMD FX 6300
    Motherboard
    GYGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 Rev 3.0
    Memory
    24GB DDR3 (4GB/4GB/8GB/8GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire HD 6850
    Sound Card
    Integrated (Realtek HD Audio)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X 19" monitors
    Screen Resolution
    4580 x 900
    Hard Drives
    WD 80GB
    WD 640GB
    WD 1,000GB
    WD 4,000GB
    PSU
    Rosewill Hive-650
    Case
    Antec 300 V2
    Cooling
    Stock Cooling
    Keyboard
    Saitek Eclipse II
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    D: 60Mbps U: 5Mbps
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    I also have a hub for 6 extra usb port AC powered.
    Microsoft LifeCam 720P
    HP LaserJet Pro M1212NF
    2 x 8 Port GB Switches
    1 X Netgear Router Netgear WNDR3700 v2 W/ DD-WRT
    and Much more
From my understanding Windows default settings do a phenomenal job at managing RAM memory.
That is a common misconception, Windows memory management has not changed much since XP. Microsoft only added "features" like superfetch, which can do more harm than good sometimes, like memory leaks.
Just searching for any possible improvements that I haven't heard of?
CleanMem Free/Pro | PcWinTech.com - it asks Windows to free RAM, Windows does the cleaning.
Then disabling services, logging and other tasks, which not only take RAM, but disk and CPU usage.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo E525
    CPU
    AMD A4-3300M @ 2,0GHz
    Memory
    6GB DDR3 1333MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD 6480G 512MB shared
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    WD 465GB
    Cooling
    Fusion Tweaker
    Keyboard
    Logitech K360
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    50/50 MBps
    Browser
    Yandex
    Antivirus
    No AV & No Firewall
    Other Info
    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170
TairikyOkami
That's actually disappointing to hear, especially since I personally believe that Windows utilize RAM very good. How exactly does it clean up or free RAM?

I installed it for a 30 minutes but then removed it. My browser felt super slow, my HDD activity went up. It did decrease the amount of RAM in use and reduced some of my cache memory. I been reading his page to try and learn more about it, it essentially does what windows does already but in a more aggressive way? Another reason why it may not have work for me is that I have a lot of programs running nonstop, this machine has been on non-stop for 18 days. If performances does not return to normal I may reboot today though.

This actually reminds me a bit of my old Android phone around year 2008. Where everyone was downloading battery saver applications that would basically delete or kill applications that are running in the background. However Android 2.0 knew how to put those applications into sleep mode. However by killing those applications with "battery saver" app it did kill them, however a lot of those apps would need to reload because they where constantly use throughout the day. By having to reload them back into memory this ended up costing more battery in the end for the phone. Cleanmem program basically clears the RAM over and over throughout your day just for the sake of reducing RAM in use. However I still feel Windows does a fine job by itself.

Don't think I will ever understand how RAM works though:sarc: I seriously don't think I can get some solid proof to back up my claims either.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro 64-Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    N/A
    CPU
    AMD FX 6300
    Motherboard
    GYGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 Rev 3.0
    Memory
    24GB DDR3 (4GB/4GB/8GB/8GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire HD 6850
    Sound Card
    Integrated (Realtek HD Audio)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X 19" monitors
    Screen Resolution
    4580 x 900
    Hard Drives
    WD 80GB
    WD 640GB
    WD 1,000GB
    WD 4,000GB
    PSU
    Rosewill Hive-650
    Case
    Antec 300 V2
    Cooling
    Stock Cooling
    Keyboard
    Saitek Eclipse II
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    D: 60Mbps U: 5Mbps
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    I also have a hub for 6 extra usb port AC powered.
    Microsoft LifeCam 720P
    HP LaserJet Pro M1212NF
    2 x 8 Port GB Switches
    1 X Netgear Router Netgear WNDR3700 v2 W/ DD-WRT
    and Much more
Before you go out and buy more RAM, consider tweaking the OS to better manage the RAM it has.

I don't personally have issues with RAM, but what are some tips or advice on how to better manage your RAM? From my understanding Windows default settings do a phenomenal job at managing RAM memory. Just searching for any possible improvements that I haven't heard of?

Before I start, it's best not to say "RAM memory," as "memory" is made redundant by the "M" in the ancronym. (Random Accessed Memory)

When I was a kid, I wasn't exactly rolling around in cash, so I had dated parts, but it taught me to greatly appreciate what I had, and more importantly, to make the most out of it.

Rather than spend ages typing out an article on RAM management, I'll just breeze over a couple of methods:

1. Prioritise and clean your startup programs. You'd be surprised how many times I've seen someone complain of a slow computer, when in-fact it was down to them having an army of junk terrorising their computer every time they turned it on. Long before Windows 8.1's time, it was a case of using MSConfig, but alas, we're not allowed to use that method anymore. Luckily, it's even easier! Just load up the Task Manager and click on the Start-up tab from which you can right-click and disable (or enable) executables.

2. In Windows Vista, 7, and 8.1 we have services, from Micrsoft and third-party programs, which is wonderful, but for those of you short of RAM, you are best to disable them. I have 8GB RAM and have no need ('though admittedly a slight desire) for more, however, I still disable a bunch of pointless services, because I love to tweak my system! Here are some services you can disable, for general performance as well. For a more exhastive list, consider Google:

a) Secondary Log-on
No use to you unless you wish to start a "process under alternative credentials."

b) Security Center
Not much use to someone who doesn't need a message telling them everything they already know. This process has always been a resource-hog, and I very much dislike it. I'd say this would be the most-recommend item to disable, but if you like the messages and don't feel confident without it, then you can keep it running.

c) Smart card
This may already be set to disable, but if it isn't, disable it. Alternatively, set it to manual. If you're unsure about a service, set it to manual. Disable is only when you're certain you don't want to load something.

I remember, when I was a kid, I once disabled a ton of services in Windows XP and had to get someone to reinstall Windows, which cost me £40 as I didn't have a Windows installation DVD and no Internet from which to acquire it. From mistakes, come lessons; from lessons, comes advice.

d) Windows Firewall should be disabled if you have your own firewall; this is to avoid confusing between the two, which can and often does cause performance degredation.

e) Windows Search isn't much use if you have an SSD (same with Superfetch) so disable that. On a particularly low-RAM system I would just disable it anyway.

3. Split the pagefile over your physical storage mediums, except any non-permanent external devices. I've always noticed an improvement when setting the minimum and maximum range to the same variable.

4. On an especially low-RAM system, it would be a good idea to tweak the settings in the Performance Options window, found on the Performance section of the Advanced tab within the System Properties. This is more of a general performance tweak, but it may save a little RAM as well.

5. Consider switching your regular software to something more RAM-efficient. Typical resource-hoggers include antivirus suites, clients, and functional and/or aesthetic tools for the desktop, such as pretty navigation bars.

6. Have you installed a metric crap-ton of fonts? Consider cleaning up that fonts folder, as they will take up more RAM.

Also worth noting that some viruses (malware, spyware, adware in particular) can suck up system resources, so it's worth checking thoroughly if you notice a real lag in performance relating to RAM.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1, x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel i5 4690K @ Stock
    Motherboard
    ASUS Z97-K
    Memory
    Corsair XM3 DDR3 1600MHz @ 1333MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS 760 OC @ Stock
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    [1] ASUS, 23", AH-IPS, 16:9 [2] Samsung TV, 20", LCD TFT, 16:9
    Screen Resolution
    [1] 1920 x 1080, 60Hz [2] 1680 x 1050, 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Internal: 500GB, 1TB, (plus SanDisk, SATAIII, 120GB SSD)
    External: 250GB USB2, 1TB External USB3
    PSU
    Corsair TX750 Enthusiast Edition
    Case
    Zalman Z11
    Cooling
    Air - 9 Total Fans
    Keyboard
    Xebec Media Line
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical
    Internet Speed
    Approx. 550KBps DL, 100KBps UL (EE)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Internet Security
    Other Info
    It's "tower," not desktop!
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