Check Disk in Win 8.1 - Why does it hide what it's doing?

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I'm running Check Disk in Win 8.1, on a 160GB drive.

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From an elevated command prompt . . . CHKDSK C: /X /R . . . then do a Restart

/x . . . Forces the volume to dismount first, if necessary. All open handles to the drive are invalidated. /x also includes the functionality of /f.

/r . . . Locates bad sectors and recovers readable information. The disk must be locked. /r includes the functionality of /f, with the additional analysis of physical disk errors.

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QUESTION: How do you know if it's necessary, or not, to use the /x parameter?

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After about 15 minutes, it gets to 13% . . . and stays there for 1 hour and 16 minutes . . . at which point - it jumps to 100%, and the computer restarts.

QUESTION: Why does it no longer show you what's going on? There is just a black screen, with white text, and a percentage completed. Is there a way to see where it is in the process?

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C: / Properties / Tools / Error checking . . . This takes one minute. I thought it was a replacement for the DOS based Check Disk.

I have found that "Error checking" does not reveal some un-readable parts of the drive - Avast found them, and said un-readable . . . I ran ChkDsk, which repaired them, and Avast was then able to read a file.

"Error checking" takes 1 minute vs. 1 hour 16 minutes for a Check Disk. It looks like "Error checking" is done perpetually, and will say something if it finds an error.

QUESTION:

1.) Do you think that ChkDsk might only be necessary once every 6 months now? Or only once per year?

2.) I see a log for Error Checking in the Event Viewer . . . but, I don't think I see anything for the DOS based Check Disk. Am I right? Or could that be somewhere else?

3.) Is there a good alternative to Check Disk, that lets you see what's going on?
 

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If you enter "chkdsk /?" at the admin command prompt, you will get a list of available options, including /v for more verbose output. There is even an option to allocate more threads for chkdsk, to help speed up an active scan.
 

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I just learned this in Win 8.1

Right-click on the command prompt Title bar / Edit / Mark
Put the cursor at the beginning of what you want to copy
Drag to highlight what you want

Right-click on the command prompt Title bar / Copy
. . . and paste where you want (ie. below)

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C:\>chkdsk /?

Checks a disk and displays a status report.

CHKDSK [volume[[path]filename]]] [/F] [/V] [/R] [/X] [/I] [/C] [/L[:size]] [/B] [/scan] [/spotfix]

volume . . . . . . . . Specifies the drive letter (followed by a colon), mount point, or volume name.

filename . . . . . . . FAT/FAT32 only: Specifies the files to check for fragmentation.

/F . . . . . . . . . . Fixes errors on the disk.

/V . . . . . . . . . . On FAT/FAT32: Displays the full path and name of every file on the disk. On NTFS: Displays cleanup messages if any.

/R . . . . . . . . . . Locates bad sectors and recovers readable information (implies /F, when /scan not specified).

/L:size . . . . . . . .NTFS only: Changes the log file size to the specified number of kilobytes. If size is not specified, displays current size.

/X . . . . . . . . . . Forces the volume to dismount first if necessary. All opened handles to the volume would then be invalid (implies /F).

/I . . . . . . . . . . NTFS only: Performs a less vigorous check of index entries.

/C . . . . . . . . . . NTFS only: Skips checking of cycles within the folder structure.

/B . . . . . . . . . . NTFS only: Re-evaluates bad clusters on the volume (implies /R)

/scan . . . . . . . . .NTFS only: Runs a online scan on the volume

/forceofflinefix . . . NTFS only: (Must be used with "/scan") Bypass all online repair; all defects found are queued for offline repair (i.e. "chkdsk /spotfix").

/perf . . . . . . . . .NTFS only: (Must be used with "/scan") Uses more system resources to complete a scan as fast as possible. This may have a negative performance impact on other tasks running on the system.

/spotfix . . . . . . . NTFS only: Runs spot fixing on the volume

/sdcleanup . . . . . . NTFS only: Garbage collect unneeded security descriptor data (implies /F).

/offlinescanandfix . . Runs an offline scan and fix on the volume.

The /I or /C switch reduces the amount of time required to run Chkdsk by skipping certain checks of the volume.

C:\>

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I have NTFS

/V . . . . . . . . . . On FAT/FAT32: Displays the full path and name of every file on the disk. On NTFS: Displays cleanup messages if any.

I was using this syntax with Defrag in Win XP, to defrag external hard drives. Yes, maybe that would work if I changed it a bit, thx!

C:\WINDOWS\system32\defrag.exe m: -v>"c:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\defrag m.txt"

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Any idea when /X applies?

/X . . . . . . . . . . Forces the volume to dismount first if necessary. All opened handles to the volume would then be invalid (implies /F).

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/perf must allocate more threads, never heard of that, thx!
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit
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    HP Compaq DC7600 Convertible Minitower
    CPU
    Intel Pentium 4 521, Prescott 90nm Technology
    Motherboard
    Hewlett-Packard 09F0h (XU1 PROCESSOR)
    Memory
    2.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz (5-5-5-15)
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    512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    HP 2311
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    1920x1080@60Hz
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    149GB SAMSUNG HD160JJ ATA Device (SATA)
    233GB Maxtor 7L250S0 ATA Device (SATA)
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    Logitech K120
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    Kensington Expert Mouse K64325
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I'm going to try this next time:

C:\>chkdsk.exe c: /x /r /perf -v>"c:\Users\User\Desktop\chkdsk c.txt"

I think /v might be different between Defrag and Chkdsk.
No mention of using a dash with it in this article, like I found with Defrag:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc730714.aspx
/v . . . Displays the name of each file in every directory as the disk is checked.

This could turn out to be a big file, if it works the same.
Maybe it just works to flash the info on the screen, and this would be how to do it:

C:\>chkdsk.exe c: /x /r /perf /v
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Compaq DC7600 Convertible Minitower
    CPU
    Intel Pentium 4 521, Prescott 90nm Technology
    Motherboard
    Hewlett-Packard 09F0h (XU1 PROCESSOR)
    Memory
    2.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz (5-5-5-15)
    Graphics Card(s)
    512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP 2311
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@60Hz
    Hard Drives
    149GB SAMSUNG HD160JJ ATA Device (SATA)
    233GB Maxtor 7L250S0 ATA Device (SATA)
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120
    Mouse
    Kensington Expert Mouse K64325
    Internet Speed
    1.5MB DSL
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Avast, Malwarebytes
I just learned this in Win 8.1

Right-click on the command prompt Title bar / Edit / Mark
Put the cursor at the beginning of what you want to copy
Drag to highlight what you want

Right-click on the command prompt Title bar / Copy

It is a little faster this way:


  1. You can right click any where->Mark
  2. Put cursor and drag->then hit <ENTER> will copy

In addition:
F3:
Pastes the last executed command
F4: Deletes current prompt text up to the entered character
F5: Pastes recently executed commands (does not cycle)
F6: Pastes ^Z to the prompt
F7: Displays a selectable list of previously executed commands
F8: Pastes recently executed commands (cycles)
F9: Asks for the number of the command from the F7 list to paste
UP/DOWN Arrow: to move to previous/next command
 

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New CMD Prompt options

Thanks! When did they improve it so much?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Compaq DC7600 Convertible Minitower
    CPU
    Intel Pentium 4 521, Prescott 90nm Technology
    Motherboard
    Hewlett-Packard 09F0h (XU1 PROCESSOR)
    Memory
    2.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz (5-5-5-15)
    Graphics Card(s)
    512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP 2311
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@60Hz
    Hard Drives
    149GB SAMSUNG HD160JJ ATA Device (SATA)
    233GB Maxtor 7L250S0 ATA Device (SATA)
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120
    Mouse
    Kensington Expert Mouse K64325
    Internet Speed
    1.5MB DSL
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Avast, Malwarebytes
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