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netbook 59% max CPU usage when on power saving mode

Why, when my netbook is on power save mode (CPU clocks down to 0.97GHz from 1.67GHz), its CPU usage won't go past 59% when doing something intensive? Is Windows 8.1 limiting the CPU usage besides underclocking it? Is it measuring the CPU usage with respect to a full clocked CPU? Am I missing something? Windows XP shows 100%.
Any clue will be appreciated.
 
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Hello Derek,

Double check to see what your min/max processor state is set to in your power options. I like to keep mine set like below.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5464-power-plan-settings-change-windows-8-a.html

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Hope this helps, :)
Shawn
 

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its called processor Scaling, and its done for powersaving and thermal considerations. its performed by reducing the clock multiplier on the CPU, and thus reducing its overall frequency (GHz). most processors are 100-166Mhz but the clock rate allows it to perform multiple operations per cycle. Some will tell you that it is more harmful to the hardware than it is good. Put your power option to high performance and a shortcut on your start page for sleep... :cool:
 

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Thanks to both

I have it configured on 5% on max and min in Power save and I use balanced when more power is needed or it's plugged in, the netbook works fairly well on this mode as I use it for basic things as word processing and Internet browsing while saving battery.

But my problem is that in this setup the CPU usage is up to 59% and I don't know if Windows 8 is limiting the usage or it's a new way to measure CPU usage, In XP and previously with 7 I get 100% with this same settings (in XP with Samsung drivers and utilities).

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Notice the spike, it's because I've changed to Balance and back to power save mode.
 
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Derek,

Yep, the 59% is just what is currently being used. It's not for what is able to be used.

A good setting in your power options is 5% MIN and 100% MAX like in my screenshot. This way Windows will be able to use up to 100% of your CPU if needed.
 

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Derek,

Yep, the 59% is just what is currently being used. It's not for what is able to be used.

A good setting in your power options is 5% MIN and 100% MAX like in my screenshot. This way Windows will be able to use up to 100% of your CPU if needed.

Many thanks again Brink, but why does XP show 100% CPU usage under the same circumstances?

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I know your setting is the optimal one in most cases, but I have to use the netbook for long times on battery and I have to do this to get it, as it's old (+3 years) and its battery is somewhat degraded.

My doubt is if Windows 8 is limiting CPU usage besides underclocking (thus reducing performance even more) it or is a new way to measure usage based on its maximum clock? I would try running a benchmark like Passmark comparing both but it would heat my netbook a lot and would took plenty of time.
 

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If you have your MAX % set low in power options, then that would limit the CPU usage.

Windows will also automatically reduce CPU usage if it detects that the CPU is overheating.
 

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So Windows 8 is limiting the CPU usage besides underclocking the CPU while XP doesn't. It works fairly well for a netbook underclocked to 1GHz and 59% max CPU usage. Good job MS optimizing Windows 8 on slower hardware.
Many thanks for your help and patience.
 

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    Intel Celeron G530
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    Gigabyte GA-H61M-S2-B3
    Memory
    6GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5450
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Glad we could help. :)

Yep, depending on what you set for min/max in power options, it will have Windows scale up and down the processor based on demand. It's all designed to help save battery life, energy, and reduce heat when the CPU doesn't need to be run at 100%.
 

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    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
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    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Premium
    Other Info
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    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
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