Solved Adding RAM to Windows 8.1 PC 64 bit.

Yorky

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Hi, Hopefully someone can supply the required information to allow me to increase RAM from 4Gb to 8Gb..
My 64 bit PC has 4Gb of RAM made up from 2 of the 4 slots containing Samsung Size 2048 MBytes Max Bandwith PC3-10700 (667 MHz).
I would like to increase RAM to 8Gb and would like to know if I can use spare slots 3 & 4 and add 2 x 2Gb Modules - thus making a total of 4 x 2Gb = 8Gb total.
Or is it possible to use slot 3 only and add a 4Gb module?
Would adding memory require alteration of the BIOS?
Thank you.
 

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No BIOS alteration.

I have used Welcome to Crucial USA
for years.

I upgraded from 4 BGs to 8 GBs with their advice.
They did not steer me wrong. :)
 

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The 2x2Gb would be the best way to go and shouldn't take any BIOS change. Be sure to get the EXACT same memory stick specs for best results.
 

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It takes a lot of pressure to insert the RAM sticks.
Put your computer on a stable surface & apply pressure with your thumbs, EVENLY.
Hopefully both sides will click into place at the same time.
 

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In addition to the above. You should always use the same brand, make & Model to insure compatibility. Mixing brands is not advisable even they are shown with same specs but the timing is crucial and can cause memory problems.
 

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I don't remember if I ordered my extra ram stick from a link on Crucial or I went to Amazon.
Whichever, I got it in 3 days, regular USPS mail.
 

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My collective thanks to you all for your advice. I will install the same make to ensure compatibility as you kindly suggested.
Regards.
Yorky.
 

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Hi there

Sorry to be the 5th player in a "String quartet" here - but these days I really don't think that mixing RAM causes ANY problem --even if you put FASTER memory into a slower machine then all that happens is the memory operates at the lower speed. (Of course it must be the same type : for example DDR2 or DDR3).

I'd actually go for the 2 X 4GB RAM --so why not get 16GB into your machine if you have 4 slots -- if the BIOS handles 8GB it will certainly handle 16GB and the modules are cheap enough.

I know this goes against conventional wisdom but I've "canaballized" so many machines that I've even got one with 4X slots ALL with different RAM maufacturers in them and it STILL works.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Thanks Jimbo45, I've tried finding the identical modules without success so far and may well consider going down the road you've suggested. I ran a scan with Crucial and they stated Max Ram of 32Gb possible.
Thanks,
Yorky.
 

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The thing is that it MAY work, no guarantees even with DD3 memories with XMP and SMD profiles and it's almost certain some advanced features like Dual Channel and OC are not going to work. Also voltage problem can get in the way. Some RAM will not work on it's declared MHz if voltage is too lo. Luckily most DDR3 will run on a bit higher voltage without ill effects and that can even help in solving memory problems. It also depends on BIOS version and settings, not all of them behave same. Some RAMs can also be "allergic" to each other and even to MB so without memories being of same make and/or type, it's still an iffy proposition to be avoided if at all possible.
 

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Hi there

Just add one module at a time -- buy cheaply so in the usually very unlikely event that it doesn't work you actually haven't wasted any serious money. Years ago I would have not tried this (DDR2 was pickier than DDR3) but these days the basic RAM functions are the same and manufacturing tolerances better. I'd be really surprised if this didn't work.

Laptops can be another issue as there can be some interaction between BIOS / MOBO and the RAM with special code possibly inserted into the BIOS ROMS by the laptop manufacturer. I can't see any problem with a desktop though.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Thanks Count Mike & Jimbo45, I think I may well 'play safe'; if I can't obtain identical modules I may well replace with new matching modules from Crucial as advised by using their 'scan'. Being an octogenarian I've copied all the advice to my tech-wise much younger cousin and I expect we'll sort it all out on his next visit.
My regards & thanks.
Yorky.
 

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They have to be the same model or it will screw your pc up + you will have to enable duel channeling
 

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They have to be the same model or it will screw your pc up + you will have to enable duel channeling
No, not really but it's just a guarantee that they should.
 

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They have to be the same model or it will screw your pc up + you will have to enable duel channeling

It's not actually true. Of course it's better to work with identical modules, but it's not mandatory. Most issues can be handled tweaking BIOS settings.

:)
 

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How will you get into the BIOS if you have one 1333Mhz Ram Stick and a 1866Mhz Ram stick
 

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Plus if you have one 16Gb ram stick and one 1Gb ram stick Windows WILL get confused, from my own experience.
 

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Plus if you have one 16Gb ram stick and one 1Gb ram stick Windows WILL get confused, from my own experience.
You actually have one 16GB stick ?
 

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Yes, I was using it for rendering on my PowerPC (I sold) and the project a was working should use 16Gb of ram to render in under 3 Hours, so I added another 1Gb so windows could run its stuff.
 

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    Hewlett Packard 216B
    Memory
    8Gb (2x4Gb) DDR3 @ 1366Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD 7600G 768Mb @ 668Mhz
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    15" Smart Touch Display
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