System Restore takes slightly more than 2 minutes to open

TOF

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Sorry to call up an old thread but I have a problem on both Win 8.1 Pro 64 bit machines. When my intent is to go to a system restore point, from System Properties and then click on System Restore it takes slightly more than 2 minutes for the Restore dialog window to open. This is from the Desktop which I use almost exclusively.

This is an update from Windows 8, which behaved the same, and has had a repair install to see if that would help. It didn't. I have tried your Shadow copy entries mentioned earlier but with no improvement. I have resorted to a third party program "RestorePointCreator.exe" Which works quickly like Win 7 does.

My dual booted Win 7 Pro opens almost by the time my finger releases the mouse button

I appreciate any help offered on my problem and thanks in advance.
 

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    Win 8.1 Pro 64
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    E8500 Core 2 Duo
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    MSI
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    16 GB
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Hello TOF, and welcome to Eight Forums.

Yeah, it shouldn't take that long to open by default.

If you have hard drives to turn off after X amount of minutes being idle, then it make take about 30 seconds or so for that to open while you wait on the hard drives to spin back up.

What drives do you have system protection turned on for?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    64-bit Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self built
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
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    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
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Hello TOF, and welcome to Eight Forums.

Yeah, it shouldn't take that long to open by default.

If you have hard drives to turn off after X amount of minutes being idle, then it make take about 30 seconds or so for that to open while you wait on the hard drives to spin back up.

What drives do you have system protection turned on for?

Only the C: system partition in each machine. The HDs don't turn off during normal use. I am hoping to avoid a fresh install, fingers crossed.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro 64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    E8500 Core 2 Duo
    Motherboard
    MSI
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti
    Browser
    IE11
    Antivirus
    MSE

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    64-bit Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self built
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
You could try running a sfc /scannow command to see if it finds any corrupted or modified system files that it can repair that may be at fault.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/3047-sfc-scannow-command-run-windows-8-a.html

Thanks Brink,
I have run SFC /SCANNOW again and no integrity problems were found. I then initiated the System Restore and it has just now come up after 2+ minutes so this is a puzzle.

If this can't be solved I'll do a wipe and clean install on one machine to see if that helps.

I do appreciate all suggestions. :cry:
 

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System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro 64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    E8500 Core 2 Duo
    Motherboard
    MSI
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti
    Browser
    IE11
    Antivirus
    MSE
My dual booted Win 7 Pro opens almost by the time my finger releases the mouse button

Dual boot is messing it all up. 7 is overwriting the shadow copies, or "controlling" it, as you will. So that's why 7 works ok and not 8.

I think there was a fix developed and propagated years ago, but I don't pay any attention since I never use SR.

This may be related somewhat: System Restore Points - Stop XP Dual Boot Delete
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7601.18247.x86fre.win7sp1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-built Intel based
    CPU
    Pentium D 925 3.0 GHz socket 775, Presler @ ~ 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel DQ965MT
    Memory
    Hyundai 2 GB DDR2 @ 333 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS DirectCU II HD7790-DC2OC-2GD5 Radeon HD 7790 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5
    Sound Card
    MOTU Traveler firewire interface
    Hard Drives
    1 Seagate Barracuda SATA II system/boot drive 80 GB, 2 Western Digital hdds - 1 is SATA II Caviar Black 1 TB attached to card (assorted media, page, temp), other is SATA I 420 GB (games, media, downloads)
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W
    Cooling
    stock Gateway cooling, extra large fan in rear of case
    Keyboard
    Alienware/Microsoft Internet kb
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    Optimum Online, fast for US
    Browser
    Pale Moon
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky integrated into ZoneAlarm+Antivirus
That would be my guess as well.

Using the tutorial posted above, make sure that you have it set so that each OS is set to not see the other one, and that you don't have system protection turned on in one OS for the other OS's drive in each OS.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    64-bit Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom self built
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
    4TB Samsung 990 PRO PRO M.2,
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Galaxy S23 Plus phone
New Install - Still 2+ Minutes

Thanks Master Chief and Brink,

I have applied the tutorial above to both OSes and rebooted a couple of times about the only result I see now is Win 7 is a trifle slower and 8.1 is still the lazy one.

I appreciate your assistance and expertise but since the third party app works like a champ I'll just use it for now. I'm planning to do a fresh install on one machine (have a good image from yesterday) so if it stays the same I can restore the image quickly. I'll update the thread with my results.

Thanks again.

Update:

I did a complete New install of 8.1 this morning, without a Win7 drive letter and tried the System Protection routine again after a couple of boots and a new Restore Point. Result still same 2+ minutes. I would think that this setup should have ruled out the use of Win 7 Shadow Copies as the culprit for slow performance. I have three SATA disks on this particular machine with the new install but the delayed action manifested itself when only two (totaling 1.6 GB) were installed.

I'll continue this experiment for a few more hours and then restore the image if no improvements are found.

Thanks for listening!
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro 64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Built
    CPU
    E8500 Core 2 Duo
    Motherboard
    MSI
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti
    Browser
    IE11
    Antivirus
    MSE
You're welcome. You could try deleting all restore points so that it has a fresh start, and see how it reacts then, if you're up to it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    7601.18247.x86fre.win7sp1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-built Intel based
    CPU
    Pentium D 925 3.0 GHz socket 775, Presler @ ~ 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel DQ965MT
    Memory
    Hyundai 2 GB DDR2 @ 333 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS DirectCU II HD7790-DC2OC-2GD5 Radeon HD 7790 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5
    Sound Card
    MOTU Traveler firewire interface
    Hard Drives
    1 Seagate Barracuda SATA II system/boot drive 80 GB, 2 Western Digital hdds - 1 is SATA II Caviar Black 1 TB attached to card (assorted media, page, temp), other is SATA I 420 GB (games, media, downloads)
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W
    Cooling
    stock Gateway cooling, extra large fan in rear of case
    Keyboard
    Alienware/Microsoft Internet kb
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    Optimum Online, fast for US
    Browser
    Pale Moon
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky integrated into ZoneAlarm+Antivirus
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