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Hello everybody.

I checked control panel to check if I could backup windows to cloud like dropbox, skydrive which shows only external HDD and network.

If it is possible please help.:dinesh:

Thanks.
 

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No built-in Cloud support yet.
 

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well, is there third party software, at least to save backups to internal hdd then upload manually to cloud ?.
Thanks.

No built-in Cloud support yet.
 

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Hi there.

Backing up your OS to the Cloud is a BAD idea. Backing up PERSONAL DATA on to a public server IMO is even worse.

1) Uploading say a 50GB partition to the cloud will take time -- even with a FAST broadband connection UPLOAD speeds are usually only a small fraction of download speeds - often merely 10% of the download speed.

2) If you are a US consumer you are likely to have a monthly CAP of which 50GB will be a significant portion.

3) If you need to restore your OS to an unbootable machine you'll need an alternate BOOTABLE system which has internet connections -- most of the standard solutions used on the forum such as Acronis etc won't have Cloud retrieval facilities built in from the stand alone bootable media.

4) The remote server could be down too -- not so likely these days but you never know -- it can and does happen. Again for cheapness some of the server sites might be situated in Third World countries where natural disasters regularly happen putting the site out of commission -if not for days certainly by hours as alternate sites are brought back into service

5) You can't guarantee the security of these servers -- with all off shoring etc and companies looking for Cheapest costs you won't have ANY idea of the level of security that gets applied to your data.

For myself - I have no problems sharing specific files via Drop box etc -- but using them as Backup storage spaces -- NO THANKS - and if I can't restore a computer in a place where even the POWER might be out for a while then NO THANKS again.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Buy a cheap external USB2/3 drive enclosure (500MB -> 1TB) and backup your drive image there....only plug it in when you want to update your backup , you can even keep the drive elsewhere locked away between backups if you want.
 

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Hi there.

Backing up your OS to the Cloud is a BAD idea. Backing up PERSONAL DATA on to a public server IMO is even worse.

1) Uploading say a 50GB partition to the cloud will take time -- even with a FAST broadband connection UPLOAD speeds are usually only a small fraction of download speeds - often merely 10% of the download speed.

2) If you are a US consumer you are likely to have a monthly CAP of which 50GB will be a significant portion.

3) If you need to restore your OS to an unbootable machine you'll need an alternate BOOTABLE system which has internet connections -- most of the standard solutions used on the forum such as Acronis etc won't have Cloud retrieval facilities built in from the stand alone bootable media.

4) The remote server could be down too -- not so likely these days but you never know -- it can and does happen. Again for cheapness some of the server sites might be situated in Third World countries where natural disasters regularly happen putting the site out of commission -if not for days certainly by hours as alternate sites are brought back into service

5) You can't guarantee the security of these servers -- with all off shoring etc and companies looking for Cheapest costs you won't have ANY idea of the level of security that gets applied to your data.

For myself - I have no problems sharing specific files via Drop box etc -- but using them as Backup storage spaces -- NO THANKS - and if I can't restore a computer in a place where even the POWER might be out for a while then NO THANKS again.

Cheers
jimbo

While I agree with you, especially in the case of the first and second sentences, there are times when cloud backup make sense. I store my data, with asymmetric encryption at my web hosting company. This storage isn't intended for daily backups, more of a "in case disaster strikes" type of scenario. The data is updated, if and when major changes are made, or every two weeks, whichever comes first.

My internet connection speed is my signature and no, I do not have cap in either direction and yes, I live in the US...
 

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Thanks jimbo for valuable advice. I do agree with you.

Hi there.

Backing up your OS to the Cloud is a BAD idea. Backing up PERSONAL DATA on to a public server IMO is even worse.

1) Uploading say a 50GB partition to the cloud will take time -- even with a FAST broadband connection UPLOAD speeds are usually only a small fraction of download speeds - often merely 10% of the download speed.

2) If you are a US consumer you are likely to have a monthly CAP of which 50GB will be a significant portion.

3) If you need to restore your OS to an unbootable machine you'll need an alternate BOOTABLE system which has internet connections -- most of the standard solutions used on the forum such as Acronis etc won't have Cloud retrieval facilities built in from the stand alone bootable media.

4) The remote server could be down too -- not so likely these days but you never know -- it can and does happen. Again for cheapness some of the server sites might be situated in Third World countries where natural disasters regularly happen putting the site out of commission -if not for days certainly by hours as alternate sites are brought back into service

5) You can't guarantee the security of these servers -- with all off shoring etc and companies looking for Cheapest costs you won't have ANY idea of the level of security that gets applied to your data.

For myself - I have no problems sharing specific files via Drop box etc -- but using them as Backup storage spaces -- NO THANKS - and if I can't restore a computer in a place where even the POWER might be out for a while then NO THANKS again.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Hi Wullail
I prefer to build a backup pc ONLY for my BACKUPs, I experienced problem using external hdd/usb, it is a matter of luck !.
I remember years ago there was cross serial port, I do not know if it is available in market and if it support win 8 AND software I need to operate. If this is possible I will be HAPPY & LUCKY.

AND maybe local network will help.
please advice.

Thank a lot.

Buy a cheap external USB2/3 drive enclosure (500MB -> 1TB) and backup your drive image there....only plug it in when you want to update your backup , you can even keep the drive elsewhere locked away between backups if you want.
 

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There are several ways to make sure you don't just accidentally lose your data. Building an entire machine seems a bit too redundant if you ask me.

What i do personally:
- SSD RAID0 array for my OS and Games
- Write a backup image to a RAID1 data array 3 times a week
- Synchronise the backup images to a USB 3.0 external harddrive once a week/month (optionally store the drive away in a small lockbox).
There even are RAID1 USB 3.0 enclosures out there if you want to double your redundancy (and they beat, building an entire seperate machine).
 

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There are several ways to make sure you don't just accidentally lose your data. Building an entire machine seems a bit too redundant if you ask me.

What i do personally:
- SSD RAID0 array for my OS and Games
- Write a backup image to a RAID1 data array 3 times a week
- Synchronise the backup images to a USB 3.0 external harddrive once a week/month (optionally store the drive away in a small lockbox).
There even are RAID1 USB 3.0 enclosures out there if you want to double your redundancy (and they beat, building an entire seperate machine).


Hi there
these days ==>total waste of time using RAID 0 -- Windows SPANNED volumes can do that function - and what's more you can have ANY SIZE disk mixtures in the spanned set - and you get the FULL amount of space -- e.g 3 disks 500GB, 750 GB and 1TB would give you a "Single spanned volume" of 2.25TB. A raid 0 array using the same set of volumes would only give you 3X 500GB = 1.5TB. !!!

(Raid 1 is only required if you need to dynamically add / change volumes -- good for servers etc that need to be up and running 24 hrs a day --for home computers it's CHEAPER to add more volumes just for backup. Even with RAID 1 you will still need backup anyway).

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Hi Wullail
I prefer to build a backup pc ONLY for my BACKUPs, I experienced problem using external hdd/usb, it is a matter of luck !.
I remember years ago there was cross serial port, I do not know if it is available in market and if it support win 8 AND software I need to operate. If this is possible I will be HAPPY & LUCKY.

AND maybe local network will help.
please advice.

Thank a lot.

Buy a cheap external USB2/3 drive enclosure (500MB -> 1TB) and backup your drive image there....only plug it in when you want to update your backup , you can even keep the drive elsewhere locked away between backups if you want.

And I don't like this approach unless the second pc is kept off-site. If you have a fire, or somebody breaks in and steals everything you have lost your data and its backups.
 

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@ jimbo45:
I'm thinking you are completely missing the point of my RAID0 array? I get 1,2 GB/sec I/O ...windows spanned volume is never gonna get that type of raw performance. Other then that i prefer an Intel hardware RAID over other solutions any day... :)
 

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@ jimbo45:
I'm thinking you are completely missing the point of my RAID0 array? I get 1,2 GB/sec I/O ...windows spanned volume is never gonna get that type of raw performance. Other then that i prefer an Intel hardware RAID over other solutions any day... :)
benchmarks always look good, but I question how much actual difference there is with the OS and game load times. The benefit of the SSD is low access times, this doesn't get better with a raid array.
 

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benchmarks always look good, but I question how much actual difference there is with the OS and game load times. The benefit of the SSD is low access times, this doesn't get better with a raid array.

Actually what you really want is high random read speeds, but not only on 4K...you want everything from 4 to 256K (and the increase in read speed when raiding SSD's is incredible, benchmarking will show you 4K speeds...but thats only the tip of the iceberg). Yes, the speed increase is noticeable and can shave of many seconds especially from modern day games.

Anyway all of this was besides the point of this topic. I was just sharing how i maintain my data integrity at all times (whether it is a single disk or raided OS solution doesn't matter). I use RAID1 for some redundancy and external backups on a 'cold-spare' which is only used for syncing data.
 

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benchmarks always look good, but I question how much actual difference there is with the OS and game load times. The benefit of the SSD is low access times, this doesn't get better with a raid array.

Actually what you really want is high random read speeds, but not only on 4K...you want everything from 4 to 256K (and the increase in read speed when raiding SSD's is incredible, benchmarking will show you 4K speeds...but thats only the tip of the iceberg). Yes, the speed increase is noticeable and can shave of many seconds especially from modern day games.
In all of my testing, going from HDD to SSD resulted in very noticeable speed improvements. The difference between an SSD and a RAID0 SSD was far more noticeable on paper and in theory than real world. My OS load times went from 15 seconds to about 14.5. I saw no tangible gains from loads of Battlefield3 and Diablo3 with a stopwatch. As a scratch drive for video editing, I saw a noticeable difference, but that was in handling very large files.

A true enthusiast will want any performance gain they can get, so I understand your configuration. But I think people imagine these gains, but have trouble quantifying them with a stopwatch. In theory, the difference would be massive, but in real world use, we aren't pushing the I/o enough to benefit.

Like anything this is simply me opinion based on my experiences...your mileage may vary.
 

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Please mind my intrusion and the possible ignorance aswell.If OP wants to make sure of his OS ,he mentioned Windows and not data,why not create an equal partition on a second drive,i believe we all have two or more,clone the operating partition to that second one,set as active and if anything goes THAT wrong,he will be back in a few BIOS keystrokes and clone back to his primary disk.Considering he will clone regurarly,not much,if nothing is lost.Of course keeping Windows backup or Macrium or whichever utility makes him feel "safe".
 

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