Solved Constantly 100% Disk while 2MB Transfer

Mursa

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Alright so my problem is that my DISK goes 100% constantly when there is 1-8MB transfer going on. Anyways it can go up to 100MB with disk testers.

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    Windows 8 Pro
Any AV running at the time ? In that range of file sizes, they are usually programs and executable files which AVs regularly check and larger ones are usually MM files or larger continuous files like .ISO or .CAB and other compressed ones that do not get AV's scrutiny. There's also the case of some files being compressible and other not, which different drives and their controllers handle different ways.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
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    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
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    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
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    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
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    Raidmax
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    CCM Nepton 140xl
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    40/2 Mbps
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    Firefox
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    WD
What's the meaning of the screenshot?
You are scanning so Defender uses the hard disk.

On other occasions there might be automatic maintenance going on or Chrome and Skype loading stuff up (0.2% usage).

All good and well.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.
What's the meaning of the screenshot?
You are scanning so Defender uses the hard disk.

On other occasions there might be automatic maintenance going on or Chrome and Skype loading stuff up (0.2% usage).

All good and well.

Well shouldn't defender have to use like 100mb transfer to reach the 100% disk usage?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
Any AV running at the time ? In that range of file sizes, they are usually programs and executable files which AVs regularly check and larger ones are usually MM files or larger continuous files like .ISO or .CAB and other compressed ones that do not get AV's scrutiny. There's also the case of some files being compressible and other not, which different drives and their controllers handle different ways.

Well there is Windows Defender going on at the time.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
What's the meaning of the screenshot?
You are scanning so Defender uses the hard disk.

On other occasions there might be automatic maintenance going on or Chrome and Skype loading stuff up (0.2% usage).

All good and well.

Well shouldn't defender have to use like 100mb transfer to reach the 100% disk usage?

No. 100mb transfer should be more than enough but not necessarily.
In begin I also found those values weird but we just have to understand, one way or another, what the new Task Manager means by that.

6-8mb is enough. 100% disk usage means that the disk is used. The copy/transfer rate is irrelevant, the more programs use the disk (even with tiny kb speeds) the more usage.

Try to look at all the transfer speeds and see what programs use the disk and how much: there will always be a high percentage seen depending on the speed + number of programs using disk at the same time.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.
If you don't want Defender or any other AV program to continually scan files as you are moving them, you can try "Teracopy" - But I always shut off Active Disk Scanning while I am copying files, regardless of size.

A good copy speed for me is about 50 mbps - IF you are getting 100, that's good. USB 3 devices? If you shut off active scanning, you'll get more speed.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
If you don't want Defender or any other AV program to continually scan files as you are moving them, you can try "Teracopy" - But I always shut off Active Disk Scanning while I am copying files, regardless of size.

A good copy speed for me is about 50 mbps - IF you are getting 100, that's good. USB 3 devices? If you shut off active scanning, you'll get more speed.

Spinpoint 3.5 F3 7.2k (SATA 2). Now i'm ordering another HDD Sata 3 for recording :).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
I'm afraid just the fact it is SATA3 is no help speed wise. It is better to get as fast one as you can or even 2 in the RAID 0 mode which would give you best results.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD
I'm afraid just the fact it is SATA3 is no help speed wise. It is better to get as fast one as you can or even 2 in the RAID 0 mode which would give you best results.

I'm not buying it for speed, i'm buying it because the recording program can be located there and operating system. Operating system wont use that disk and the speed was better when i looked at info.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
I'm afraid just the fact it is SATA3 is no help speed wise. It is better to get as fast one as you can or even 2 in the RAID 0 mode which would give you best results.

I'm not buying it for speed, i'm buying it because the recording program can be located there and operating system. Operating system wont use that disk and the speed was better when i looked at info.

If the disk if for recording only, you can improve the performance by disabling the antivirus scan on it, disable indexing and automatic maintenance (usually defragmeantation which you can do manually when yon need it).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.
I'm afraid just the fact it is SATA3 is no help speed wise. It is better to get as fast one as you can or even 2 in the RAID 0 mode which would give you best results.

I'm not buying it for speed, i'm buying it because the recording program can be located there and operating system. Operating system wont use that disk and the speed was better when i looked at info.

If the disk if for recording only, you can improve the performance by disabling the antivirus scan on it, disable indexing and automatic maintenance (usually defragmeantation which you can do manually when yon need it).

Thanks for the info, that really helps.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
Yah, you can exclude the whole drive and then it will not be affected by the scan. You can also exclude the folder that contains the Program. What is it, Pro Tools? I've never had that force me to use an External drive, and newer versions don't like NTFS formatted external drives, but they will still work if you just ignore the warning that pops up as the program starts. Not familiar with any other recording programs, only other one I've used was Sonar.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.
Hi there

Trouble with these sort of posts is that there isn't enough SENSIBLE info to go on here. It's a bit like ringing up the Auto Club and saying "My Car is Broken".

First things

1) How much FREE SPACE is actually on the disk
2) How much RAM have you got in your system
3) What were you actually running at the time -- ALL the processes
4) Do you enable Sleep / Hibernation
5) Is Indexing enabled
6)Any background disk defrag processes running.
7) Viruses / Trojans / spyware
8) Poorly performing A/V software -- McAfee ("Mac Aweful"), and Norton / Symantec are often really bad performers here

In general excessive disk I/O only appears if there isn't sufficient RAM to run all the concurrent processes you want to or if there is some nasty malware.

Note some A/V software is absolutely APPALLING for performance. - I'd recommend removing ALL of it and just using MSE for windows 7 or the standard built in Windows defender for Windows 8.

Sometimes after a new W7 (and to a lesser extent a W8) installation the OS attempts to "Pre-fetch" data and applications that based on how the machine is used will be available very quickly. The algorithms are very complex and sophisticated and in the beginning it can take a while for the OS to build up a decent database of how you use the machine.

Finally for any sort of RAID -- slow disks will absolutely CRUCIFY your system --if you must use RAID (and on a home computer these days with decent HDD's and timely backups why bother) you MUST use the FASTEST HDD's possible -- and also ensure the CACHE SIZE in them is big too.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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  • OS
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10
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    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 X LG 40 inch TV
    Hard Drives
    SSD's * 3 (Samsung 840 series) 250 GB
    2 X 3 TB sata
    5 X 1 TB sata
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    0.12 GB/s (120Mb/s)
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