Solved Anonymous Access to a Share on 8.1

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tabascojoe

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The setup:
Two Windows 8.1 pro boxes. Each one has a different MS account associated with it. Box A has a shared folder. Premissions set with "everyone" rw. Box B is trying to access the share. When Box B opens Box A in the network it prompts for credentials. (box that pops up is shown below) Box A will accept any username entered, but it will always pop up the box asking for credentials. Why is this happening? I noticed that it is using the computer name for the domain, is that normal? Why would it even need to show the box if the everyone group is added to the share? I've tried everything I could think of, nothing works. It's not just Windows 8.1 that cannot access the share, even a Windows 7 box gets the same popup. My network setting have password protected sharing disabled, and use user account, not homegroup is selected. Network setting are identical on box A and B.

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The only thing I can think of is the user Everyone is a local user account while you are trying to access the PC with the MS account set access. For testing purpose, try to switch your PC's to local account to see if you can access it without the popup.
 

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    I7 4970K OC'ed @4.7 GHz
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    MSI-Z97
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    16 GB G-Skill Trident X @2400MHZ
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topgundcp said:
The only thing I can think of is the user Everyone is a local user account while you are trying to access the PC with the MS account set access. For testing purpose, try to switch your PC's to local account to see if you can access it without the popup.
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tested with a local account, and no pop-up. Computer and share came right up. How do we get MS accounts in the Everyone group?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 update 1
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    E8400
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    abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD mATX
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    4gb DDR2
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    Bitstream to Home Theater
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    Antec Fusion HTPC Case
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    30
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tabascojoe said:
topgundcp said:
The only thing I can think of is the user Everyone is a local user account while you are trying to access the PC with the MS account set access. For testing purpose, try to switch your PC's to local account to see if you can access it without the popup.
Click to expand...

tested with a local account, and no pop-up. Computer and share came right up. How do we get MS accounts in the Everyone group?
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The same way that we did it with Windows 7. Windows 8 uses the live account as the username. The password is your network login password.

You set folders to "Everyone". It opens the OS up to problems. One is that you allow viruses to take hold and start infecting the machine, along with others on the LAN. There is a reason why Microsoft layered in certain safe guards into Windows 8. It was not to protect the OS from the user. It was to protect the user from their own bad habits.
 

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broe23 said:
tabascojoe said:
topgundcp said:
The only thing I can think of is the user Everyone is a local user account while you are trying to access the PC with the MS account set access. For testing purpose, try to switch your PC's to local account to see if you can access it without the popup.
Click to expand...

tested with a local account, and no pop-up. Computer and share came right up. How do we get MS accounts in the Everyone group?
Click to expand...
The same way that we did it with Windows 7. Windows 8 uses the live account as the username. The password is your network login password.

You set folders to "Everyone". It opens the OS up to problems. One is that you allow viruses to take hold and start infecting the machine, along with others on the LAN. There is a reason why Microsoft layered in certain safe guards into Windows 8. It was not to protect the OS from the user. It was to protect the user from their own bad habits.
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I hate replies like this. I know what I am doing and I have a reason to add the everyone group. Also 7 did not use "live" accounts. It used local accounts or domain account if joined to a domain. Do you have an answer to the problem of why local account connect while MS account don't? If not please don't preach about viruses and "safe guards" and other nonsense.
 

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    Windows 8.1 update 1
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    E8400
    Motherboard
    abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD mATX
    Memory
    4gb DDR2
    Sound Card
    Bitstream to Home Theater
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    Antec Fusion HTPC Case
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I ended up using Homegroup on my network. I though I never use Homegroup, but with MS accounts it about the only way to have a password less (well...if you don't count the Homegroup password) share. Homegroup is alright, but it feels like amateur hour. Next Windows version I'm going to skip the MS account, beside the app store there is not much benefit to it.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 update 1
    CPU
    E8400
    Motherboard
    abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD mATX
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    Sound Card
    Bitstream to Home Theater
    Case
    Antec Fusion HTPC Case
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    30
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    Chrome
tabascojoe said:
I ended up using Homegroup on my network. I though I never use Homegroup, but with MS accounts it about the only way to have a password less (well...if you don't count the Homegroup password) share. Homegroup is alright, but it feels like amateur hour.
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Yes, if you only use Windows 7 & 8 then this would be fine.
Next Windows version I'm going to skip the MS account, beside the app store there is not much benefit to it.
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I always use local accounts for all my PC's so I can be in control of everything. For metro apps, some of them will allow to sign in separately if needed.
 

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    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64
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    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brewed
    CPU
    I7 4970K OC'ed @4.7 GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI-Z97
    Memory
    16 GB G-Skill Trident X @2400MHZ
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450
    Sound Card
    X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual HP-W2408
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    256 GB M2 sm951, (2) 500GB 850EVO, 5TB, 2 TB Seagate
    PSU
    Antec 850W
    Case
    Antec 1200
    Cooling
    Danger Den H20
    Keyboard
    Logitech
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    Logitech Performance Mouse MX
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    35/12mbps
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