Solved Solved the case of the mysterious desktop Homegroup icon

waltc

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I think...;)

[DEL]If you are running a Win8 desktop (I am running a fully updated 8.1) and are being besieged by a pesky Homegroup icon that appears from nowhere in 33%-50% of your boots, I think I now know why it appears, and how to banish it permanently without resort to registry hacking, disabling Homegroup, etc.

If you are one of the affected folks, then the first thing you need to do is tap that Windows key & open up the Start Page that none of us uses. At the top of the page you're allowed to sort the start page icons, so go ahead and sort them by name. Go to the "H" section and you should see "Homegroup" sitting there, staring you right in the face. Right-click and choose "unpin from start page", or something very close to that. You will note that the Homegroup icon is now gone from the start page--but we don't use the start page--so tap that Windows key again and return to the desktop.

Homegroup should now have joined the gone-group...;)

I think the situation has to do with a bug in the code Microsoft uses to coordinate the start page with the desktop in Win8. I'm thinking that if the Homegroup icon is removed from the desktop but not the start page, too, that during a certain percentage of boots Win8 gets confused by the fact that it is present on the start page but not on the desktop--which makes a modicum of sense when we consider that the default for Win8 is the start page, not the desktop.

I hope this at last solves my problem here...I should know in a few more boots...;)[/DEL]

If it comes back, I'll be sure and edit this to reflect that...fingers crossed...!

EDIT: It came back to my desktop. Irony: it did not come back to my start screen! So, scratch one theory...arghghghghggggghhh!

I'll just go the Personalize/Network/ install & uninstall route, again, each time it appears.

This is one Win8 bug that should have been fixed, by now--evidently has nothing to do with the start screen.
 
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    UEFI install of Win8.1 x64
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    PC/Desktop
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    self-crafted
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    FX-6300 @4.515Ghz
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    MSI 970a-G46
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    RealTek 892
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    Seagate 320GB sata2 boot UEFI install of 8.1 x64;
    1TB WD Blue SATA 3;
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    Corsair GS600
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    Logitech Internet k-board
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    Microsoft Sidewinder
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    built into OS MSE/Defender
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    Had a brain amputation followed up by an all-lobe "clean-up" lobotomy last year, am doing fine. Life is so much simpler, now.
In addition, the options below often helps to remove the spontaneous HomeGroup desktop icon. :)

  • Refresh (F5) the desktop
  • Add and remove the Network desktop icon.
 

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    Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
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    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
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    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
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    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
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    PC/Desktop
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    Home built
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    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
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    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
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    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
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    GTX-480
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    Asus D2 Xonar
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    HannsG
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    G15 logitech
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    G9 logitech
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    50mbps


Most definitely, however, the steps in this tutorial (and others that I took) failed to resolve the problem...the icon kept coming back. That's what got me thinking about the "start page"--which I don't ever view as a rule.

[DEL]So far, after 3-4 reboots, the Homegroup icon has not come back...fingers crossed...![/DEL]

It came back.

[DEL]It would be interesting if indeed it never comes back and the whole problem had such a simple solution all along...;)[/DEL] The most difficult thing to do when troubleshooting is to find the simplest solution *first* and work up from there. Almost always, it seems, I start with the most complex solution and work backwards from there, unfortunately....!

And then...to discover that it was all in vain...;)
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    UEFI install of Win8.1 x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    self-crafted
    CPU
    FX-6300 @4.515Ghz
    Motherboard
    MSI 970a-G46
    Memory
    8 GB DDR3 (2x4) 1600 @ 1800
    Graphics Card(s)
    2GB HD 7850 @1.05GHz core/6GB/s ram
    Sound Card
    RealTek 892
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG HZ281
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Seagate 320GB sata2 boot UEFI install of 8.1 x64;
    1TB WD Blue SATA 3;
    Seagate 2x 500GB sata2's in RAID 0
    PSU
    Corsair GS600
    Case
    LIan Li
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    Logitech Internet k-board
    Mouse
    Microsoft Sidewinder
    Internet Speed
    VDSL
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    built into OS MSE/Defender
    Other Info
    Had a brain amputation followed up by an all-lobe "clean-up" lobotomy last year, am doing fine. Life is so much simpler, now.
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