Win 8 and WEP wifi?

longtex

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Brand new Toshiba P875-S7102 laptop won't connect to clinic's 2net router set to WEP, running 802g. It does accept the password, but then goes into "checking network requirements" and after several seconds -about 23 of them - announces "Can't connect to this network". The adapter is Intel Wireless-N 2200, and works fine at four other places that are all WPA2 with various routers, g and n.

Any ideas?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win 8
Any router still running WEP is running firmware that is way out of date, updating the firmware on this router may help but only if the firmware allows the router to use WPA2 with AES encryption.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
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    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
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    HannsG
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    1680x1050
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    50mbps
Any router still running WEP is running firmware that is way out of date, updating the firmware on this router may help but only if the firmware allows the router to use WPA2 with AES encryption.

Agreed about old crap, but not the issue. The router is a pretty new 2wire... it's not my facility and changing the encryption type is not an option. Two Samsung Notes and iPad all connect seamlessly, as does an older XP laptop - two of them, actually, mine and someone else's. Either Win 8 has the capability or it does not. I don't know which it is. As I think I noted, it connects to the point of getting the PW accepted (fails immediately if bogus PW is given), but then fails while "checking network requirements", whatever that means.
 

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System One

  • OS
    win 8
Most every driver for Windows 8 won't connect automatically with WEP security. It may work to create a wireless profile manually.

Windows tries to protect you from connecting to the WEP access points by not letting it happen automatically, or asking for your password like it used to with other systems.

Open the network and Sharing Center.

Select "Set up a new connection or Network"

Select "Manually connect to a wireless network"

Enter Network name- this is case sensitive.

Save.

Now the problem you are likely having:

Ether choose the change settings or find the network profile you just created under Manage Wireless Networks, and open it up.

On the "Security tab" you will see Security Type is "No authentication (Open)". You likely have to set it to "Shared". Now you have to re-enter your security key.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Gskill 120GB SSD
    PSU
    Thermal Take 1000watts
    Case
    Thermal Take Xtreme
    Cooling
    9 fans air cooled
    Keyboard
    G15 logitech
    Mouse
    G9 logitech
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
Already done this, in various combinations. There is no "shared" choice... No authentication (Open) is followed immediately by the WPAs, couple of others after that, but no Shared. Pretty sure XP had a shared choice, but this 8. Hell, it doesn't even show WEP on this window.

Wait, yes it does, it's got its own field... whatever... still fails the checking.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win 8
Do you have access to the router, if so reboot the router by unplugging it from the power outlet for 2 minutes then plug it back in. Wait and check for connection.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom build
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X 4 965 BE
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4
    Memory
    G-Skill 8 GB PC 8500
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    AMD XFX HD Radeon 6790D
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD onboard
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    2l Samsung SyncMaster S20B300
    Screen Resolution
    1600 X 900
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 320 GB w/OS
    Seagate Barracuda 1 TB data storage
    PSU
    Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular
    Case
    Thermaltake OverSeer RX 1 fulltower
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper212 120mm
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510
    Mouse
    Razor DeathAdder 3.5
Do you have access to the router, if so reboot the router by unplugging it from the power outlet for 2 minutes then plug it back in. Wait and check for connection.

Yeah, the three-finger salute -hardware version - is always worth trying. I'll hafta wait until the fat lady quits ****ing around on twit-face, but will def give it a shot. And let you know if it works, of course. Wonder wtf is going on with leaving off the "shared" option... oversight, or wht?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win 8
Sad stuff. Reminds me of when the only thing we had was compuserve, and it went PC stupid and wound up blocking the Breast Cancer group and recipes for Chicken Breast...
 

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  • OS
    win 8
Okay... reset it, no joy. I'm suspecting either a wireless printer or a couple of wireless cameras are the culprits here. Maybe we can turn them off one at a time and see wha' hoppen...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win 8
The network may be limited to a certain number of devices to get connected at one time.
 

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Was really strange this morning. The IT guy walked in, asked how it was going... I had tested a few minutes earlier, and got 0.71 Mbs down... showed him, retested... and got over 11 Mbs. Talk about floored! He walked out, I retested, got 2.76... scratched head, tested again, got 0.61.. I dunno what the hell to think, now. I suspected he stopped the cams for a bit, but...
 
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  • OS
    win 8
Already done this, in various combinations. There is no "shared" choice... No authentication (Open) is followed immediately by the WPAs, couple of others after that, but no Shared. Pretty sure XP had a shared choice, but this 8. Hell, it doesn't even show WEP on this window.

Wait, yes it does, it's got its own field... whatever... still fails the checking.

Looks to me like the manual connection method worked. I'm not sure why the wireless speed is so low but you can't achieve much without good signal strength and you should be using the 802.11N Only settings on the router if you want better connection speeds.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Gskill 120GB SSD
    PSU
    Thermal Take 1000watts
    Case
    Thermal Take Xtreme
    Cooling
    9 fans air cooled
    Keyboard
    G15 logitech
    Mouse
    G9 logitech
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
Looks to me like the manual connection method worked. I'm not sure why the wireless speed is so low but you can't achieve much without good signal strength and you should be using the 802.11N Only settings on the router if you want better connection speeds.

It connected to the router, but then failed when checking network requirements... whatever that means... which dumps the connection, so, no, I'd have to say it didn't work, not on the Win8 box. The net speed test was using the iPad, which, like the phones and the XP box, connected without problem. The only way to connect the Win8 is with a wire., which it does without mentioning network requirements. Hmmmm...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win 8
make sure the password is correct, I know it seems unlikely but forget the network and re-enter your password...

Windows wont always tell you the password is incorrect, it will just say limited access or similar...
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 & Windows 7 Dual Boot
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    HP G60
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    AMD Turion RM-70 Dual Core 2.0 GHZ
    Memory
    3 GB
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    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
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    MS Intellipoint 5 button (love it!)
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    Chrome and Chromium
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    Avast Free & Malwarebytes
make sure the password is correct, I know it seems unlikely but forget the network and re-enter your password...

Windows wont always tell you the password is incorrect, it will just say limited access or similar...

No, I checked this: entering a bad password fails immediately, entering the correct one goes to the "checking network requirements" stuff and then fails. I'm pretty puzzled.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win 8
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