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wftech

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Have a Dell Latitude ST slate.

Loaded Win 8 Beta...did some tweaking everything worked great.
Loaded Win 8 Consumer preview.. Same thing, few tweaks everything worked.
Loaded Win 8 Pro....n-trig pen won't work(touch works great) , can connect to my network (wi-fi) at work bet cannot connect to my home network, "can not connect to this network".
The machine sees the network, and the ssid, but can not connect. Why?
 

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Maybe you need updated modem driver or firmware. What are the component of your network? How are you connecting?
 

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    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Rig; MacBook Pro (MBP)/Parallels/Boot Camp; HP Pavilion dv6500t Laptop
    CPU
    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 570 SC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master 932 HAF
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Internet Speed
    20 Mbps Download/2+ Mbps Upload
    Other Info
    Pioneer Blu-ray Burner/DVD Burner
Belkin wireless router. Network components all work fine other machines, iPads, Mac and windows machines all connect fine, as did this Tablet with 8 beta and consumer preview, but now with 8 pro I can't connect, the wireless is working because I can connect to the network at work just fine but here at home it sees the network, identifies it but will not connect to it, get message..."can not connect to this network"
 

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    Win xp win7 win8
As said, maybe you need to update modem driver or firmware for Win8. Is your Win8 shown to be a private network? Is network discovery on? File and printer sharing on? I know that some these things might not be root cause--just getting ducks in a row. What AV are you using? You could disable it at least temporarily. Can you get the Internet wirelessly? Have you tried connecting to your network via Ethernet? Do you see evidence of an "unidentified network?" You could try the LAN troubleshooter/diagnoser.
 

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  • OS
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Rig; MacBook Pro (MBP)/Parallels/Boot Camp; HP Pavilion dv6500t Laptop
    CPU
    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 570 SC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master 932 HAF
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Internet Speed
    20 Mbps Download/2+ Mbps Upload
    Other Info
    Pioneer Blu-ray Burner/DVD Burner
Belkin wireless router. Network components all work fine other machines, iPads, Mac and windows machines all connect fine, as did this Tablet with 8 beta and consumer preview, but now with 8 pro I can't connect, the wireless is working because I can connect to the network at work just fine but here at home it sees the network, identifies it but will not connect to it, get message..."can not connect to this network"

Which wireless security is your router using? It may help to use WPA2 with AES encryption.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Gskill 120GB SSD
    PSU
    Thermal Take 1000watts
    Case
    Thermal Take Xtreme
    Cooling
    9 fans air cooled
    Keyboard
    G15 logitech
    Mouse
    G9 logitech
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
Network running with no security, dont really need it where I am only security is the SSID which is not broadcast the network works fine I connect wirelessly from various other devices. The problem is windows 8 pro. when I first put windows 8 beta on this machine it connected to this network just fine. I then put windows 8 consumer preview on the machine with the same results. But now with the windows 8 pro installed it just will not connect. it sees the network when I try to connect it asks for the SSID, I put in the SSID and it gives me "can not connect to this network" so I broadcasted the SSID and tried to connect same message, tried to connect manually, same result. trouleshooter gives me a great deal of help....It says I am trying to connect to a network I have not connected to before.....Duh.
Something changed between the beta/consumer preview and the Pro versions of 8. As I said the home network is fine, no changes between the beta and the pro versions, the adapter works fine as I can connect to the network where I work.
This has to be an 8 pro issue
 

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    Win xp win7 win8
By the way I have also tried turning off the firewall and disabling windows defender same result
 

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Did you do any of what I suggested in my last post?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Rig; MacBook Pro (MBP)/Parallels/Boot Camp; HP Pavilion dv6500t Laptop
    CPU
    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 570 SC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master 932 HAF
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Internet Speed
    20 Mbps Download/2+ Mbps Upload
    Other Info
    Pioneer Blu-ray Burner/DVD Burner
All of it and then some, except use a wired connection, I guess I could try that but don't see where that will do anything for me.
As I said, I can connect wirelessly to my work network, but cannot at home but could before with win8 beta and consumer preview,
problem "has" to be with windows 8 pro they changed somthing between the previews and the full version, just cant figure out what, as I said the troubleshooter just tells me I have not connected to this network before, but gives me no answers as to why it won't connect.
 

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Windows 8 in most cases will not connect to an unsecured network because it's not secure.

Try enabling security.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Gskill 120GB SSD
    PSU
    Thermal Take 1000watts
    Case
    Thermal Take Xtreme
    Cooling
    9 fans air cooled
    Keyboard
    G15 logitech
    Mouse
    G9 logitech
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
Ok, that kind of makes sence, at work now might not get the chance to try that for a few days, will let you know, thanks.
Do you think that once i connect, if I can, I could turn security off and it will still connect?
 

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    Win xp win7 win8
Did that (turning on security) work?
 

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  • OS
    Win 10 Pro 64bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built Intel i7-3770k-based system
    CPU
    Intel i7-3770k, Overclocked to 4.6GHz (46x100) with Corsair H110i GT cooler
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z77 OC Formula 2.30 BIOS
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 2133 Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce GTX 980ti SC ACS 6GB DDR5 by EVGA
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD, Corsair SP2500 speakers and subwoofer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 27EA33 [Monitor] (27.2"vis) HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB (system drive)
    WD 6TB Red NAS hard drives x 2 in Storage Spaces (redundancy)
    PSU
    Corsair 750ax fully modular power supply with sleeved cables
    Case
    Corsair Air 540 with 7 x 140mm fans on front, rear and top panels
    Cooling
    Corsair H110i GT liquid cooled CPU with 4 x 140" Corsair SP "push-pull" and 3 x 140mm fans
    Keyboard
    Thermaltake Poseidon Z illuminated keyboard
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 wired
    Internet Speed
    85MBps DSL
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, MalwareBytes Pro and CCleaner Pro
    Other Info
    Client of Windows Server 2012 R2 10 PC's, laptops and smartphones on the WLAN.

    1GBps Ethernet ports
Didn't have a lot of time gave it 1 quick try enabled WPA/WPA2 on router, then tried to connect. Windows said it was determining network requirements, then turned off the wireless adapter.
Really don't have a lot of time to mess with it till the weekend, things like job, commute, family get in the way but will try again over the weekend and get back to you.
 

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    Win xp win7 win8
Ok guys, finally got it connected. First I turned off windows defender and disabled the firewall, went to manually connect to wireless network, and put in the network info,SSID, WPA2-personal, encryption AES, and the security key. Then go to Networks, right click on the network you want and click properties, insert the same info there under security, under connection select all, click ok then connect and it connected.
Thanks to all for your assistance
 

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Ok guys, finally got it connected. First I turned off windows defender and disabled the firewall, went to manually connect to wireless network, and put in the network info,SSID, WPA2-personal, encryption AES, and the security key. Then go to Networks, right click on the network you want and click properties, insert the same info there under security, under connection select all, click ok then connect and it connected.
Thanks to all for your assistance

I'm quite certain that it's not required to bring down the firewall and turn off defender in order to make a wireless connection. If that were true then everybody would have to do that. Just remember to turn them back on.

Most likely just enabling security on the router and typing in the appropriate wireless security settings into the wireless profile was enough to fix this problem. Windows 8 won't be able to connect with unsecured networks and won't connect to WEP secured networks as well.

Anyway, it seems like it worked much better with the wireless security enabled but no big surprise there. :dinesh:

You can mark this as solved if you like. Glad you are online again.
 
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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Gskill 120GB SSD
    PSU
    Thermal Take 1000watts
    Case
    Thermal Take Xtreme
    Cooling
    9 fans air cooled
    Keyboard
    G15 logitech
    Mouse
    G9 logitech
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
Your right I may not have needed to disable everything but wanted to remove all possible problems, everything back on, restart connects great. Thanks again for the assist.
 

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The thing that still boggles my mind is, why didn't I have this problem with the beta or preview versions?
 

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wftech,
I'm glad you got it figured out! Good work!
 

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  • OS
    Win 10 Pro 64bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built Intel i7-3770k-based system
    CPU
    Intel i7-3770k, Overclocked to 4.6GHz (46x100) with Corsair H110i GT cooler
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z77 OC Formula 2.30 BIOS
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 2133 Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce GTX 980ti SC ACS 6GB DDR5 by EVGA
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD, Corsair SP2500 speakers and subwoofer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 27EA33 [Monitor] (27.2"vis) HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB (system drive)
    WD 6TB Red NAS hard drives x 2 in Storage Spaces (redundancy)
    PSU
    Corsair 750ax fully modular power supply with sleeved cables
    Case
    Corsair Air 540 with 7 x 140mm fans on front, rear and top panels
    Cooling
    Corsair H110i GT liquid cooled CPU with 4 x 140" Corsair SP "push-pull" and 3 x 140mm fans
    Keyboard
    Thermaltake Poseidon Z illuminated keyboard
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 wired
    Internet Speed
    85MBps DSL
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, MalwareBytes Pro and CCleaner Pro
    Other Info
    Client of Windows Server 2012 R2 10 PC's, laptops and smartphones on the WLAN.

    1GBps Ethernet ports
The thing that still boggles my mind is, why didn't I have this problem with the beta or preview versions?

Most likely because the security settings weren't finalized in the CP and earlier versions. Not to mention the drivers needed to be approved for Windows 8 and those drivers won't allow connection to unsecured networks.

You definitely want to keep the network secure, the way you had it, anyone from outside could connect and then access your router and your machine.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Gskill 120GB SSD
    PSU
    Thermal Take 1000watts
    Case
    Thermal Take Xtreme
    Cooling
    9 fans air cooled
    Keyboard
    G15 logitech
    Mouse
    G9 logitech
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
Agree, when I first set it up was not worried,live in the woods, 2 dogs.
Sitting in my driveway for web access would be noticed. Adding the security is probably a good idea, just had to re-connect all other W-less devices with security settings. Like I should have at setup anyway. Sometimes shortcuts are not the best path. NAVY taught me, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"....well it weren't broke till now.
Thanks again for the help.
 
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