Solved Can't network but can share drive

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I have a XP machine that I can see the shared folders via network on Win 8. I cannot see the XP machine on the Win 8 via network - Win 8 says "no network" even though I am on the internet through wireless. I can map the Win 8 to shared folders on the XP. I can also use "net view" to see the XP machine from Win 8. So why won't the Win 8 network?

EDIT: I just looked and the Win8 still says I am not connected to any networks even through I can access the other machine. What is going on????
 
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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
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    Dell Inspiron 1750
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    Duo Core 2.5 G HZ
I assume that you enabled Network Discovery and also file and printer sharing for the Windows 8 machine in the Advanced Settings at the Network and Sharing Center.

You would need to make sure that the Workgroup names on both the XP and Windows 8 machines are the same.

By default the Workgroup names don't match so you would need to change the Workgroup name on at least one of those machines to match the other one.
 

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I assume that you enabled Network Discovery and also file and printer sharing for the Windows 8 machine in the Advanced Settings at the Network and Sharing Center.

You would need to make sure that the Workgroup names on both the XP and Windows 8 machines are the same.

By default the Workgroup names don't match so you would need to change the Workgroup name on at least one of those machines to match the other one.

Got all that done. One thing I noticed is the option to set share for the device is missing on the left click.


BTW: I can access everything on the Win 8 from the XP.
 

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    Windows 8 Pro
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    Dell Inspiron 1750
    CPU
    Duo Core 2.5 G HZ
Have you shared something on the XP?
 

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Have you shared something on the XP?

I have. Something else has happened in that the XP machine says I don't have permission to connect to "Workgroup" and the Win 7 (doing more checks) shows the XP machine on the network map. The Win 8 will not even give me the map.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 1750
    CPU
    Duo Core 2.5 G HZ
As chev65 mentioned, are both computers part of WORKGROUP? If not, they need to be--or at least have the same "workgroup" name. Is the Win8 machine set to the Private network profile?
 

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As chev65 mentioned, are both computers part of WORKGROUP? If not, they need to be--or at least have the same "workgroup" name. Is the Win8 machine set to the Private network profile?

They are both "workgroup. I cannot set the profile name in the Win8 machine because it does not give me access to any network settings; the "Advanced settings" only list "Private" and not "Public". I have both machines disconnected from "homegroup".
 

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    Windows 8 Pro
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    Dell Inspiron 1750
    CPU
    Duo Core 2.5 G HZ
Ok, yes, it says private I presume. I'll be gone for a while, but will try to get back to you. chev65 probably will too
 
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    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
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    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
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    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
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    EVGA 570 SC
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    Gateway
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    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
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    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
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    Cooler Master 932 HAF
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    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
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    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
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    20 Mbps Download/2+ Mbps Upload
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I don't know why because I have been playing ALOT, but everything is working. I guessing it was something on the XP machine; I looked in the setting and changed "Computer Description" to the same as the ID and now things are working. Has anyone heard of this?????? This is a old Latitude D810 that I have been using for years on company networks and industrial systems - best machine I have ever had.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 1750
    CPU
    Duo Core 2.5 G HZ
Glad it is working.
 

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    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
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    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
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    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
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    EVGA 570 SC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
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    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master 932 HAF
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    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
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    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
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    20 Mbps Download/2+ Mbps Upload
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Well, so much for it working; now Win8 will not even see a shared folder on its' own machine and I have not made any changes; it just stopped working.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
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    Dell Inspiron 1750
    CPU
    Duo Core 2.5 G HZ
Fighting more than 1 problem. XP will only connect if I go to Change ID and tell it to connect to a home network; this allowed communications between Win7 and XP.

Win8 is full of problems. I had to uninstall the Wi-Fi and reinstall it which allowed me to tell it to "share" (something I have never seen before); this allowed reading of Win8 shared folders on same machine, but still did not allow a connection to the network either as workgroup or homegroup - it says "this computer cannot connect to homegroup". I cannot find any setting that allows me to disconnect from the homegroup and disabling services doesn't help.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 1750
    CPU
    Duo Core 2.5 G HZ
Fighting more than 1 problem. XP will only connect if I go to Change ID and tell it to connect to a home network; this allowed communications between Win7 and XP.
XP is good if set as a home network. Make sure the Win8 machine is set as a Private network.
 

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    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 570 SC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
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    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
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    Cooler Master 932 HAF
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    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
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I'm networking with another machine in my network, windows xp and 8. Make sure you are in the same workgroup. You can do that by right clicking computer, properties, advanced settings.
 

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All machines are reading each other now, but the Win8 tells me that I cannot connect to a homegroup and that I am not connected to a network even though the PCs read each other. I think the problem may be the driver for the wireless card. I am going to do some looking for a Dell N1515 for Win8.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 1750
    CPU
    Duo Core 2.5 G HZ
What I need is someone to tell me how to connect to Homegroup at this point and it may solve the whole issue; Win8 is telling me that "this computer cannot connect to homegroup". Do not confuse this with the issue of connecting to the XP machine, that I will solve later.:

This is where I am at. I can communicate between Win7 and XP with no problem and see the network map. XP will only see files on Win8 and Win8 will not see files on XP. Win8 refuses to connect to any network including Homegroup therefore I cannot change public or private. It appears to be set to private in advanced settings because public is not visible - but no proof.

There is more than likely a hardware issue with Wi-Fi because it was supported in Win7 when MS supported XP. Now MS no longer supports XP and they are the only ones that make the Win8 driver for Dell 1515-N. I can get on the internet with no problem which makes this a real puzzle.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 1750
    CPU
    Duo Core 2.5 G HZ
Forget about HomeGroup. It won't do you any good with Win8/XP. If you still have a problem, then you need to fix it without using HomeGroup Are you actually calling anything HomeGroup in yours settings? i wouldn't.
 

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    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 570 SC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master 932 HAF
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
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    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
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    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Internet Speed
    20 Mbps Download/2+ Mbps Upload
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Forget about HomeGroup. It won't do you any good with Win8/XP. If you still have a problem, then you need to fix it without using HomeGroup Are you actually calling anything HomeGroup in yours settings? i wouldn't.

Nope, no homegroup in any settings. The problem I am having is that I cannot connect to any network and homegroup is saying: "you cannot connect to homegroup unless set to 'private'" and I cannot get to any settings that will allow me to set "private" or "public" because I cannot connect to any networks.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 1750
    CPU
    Duo Core 2.5 G HZ
What causes it to say that? You shouldn't be trying to connect to anything called homegroup. Are you somehow trying to do so? And, whether you can change it or not, does your Win8 machine show that you are using the Private network profile.
 

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  • OS
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Rig; MacBook Pro (MBP)/Parallels/Boot Camp; HP Pavilion dv6500t Laptop
    CPU
    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 570 SC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master 932 HAF
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Internet Speed
    20 Mbps Download/2+ Mbps Upload
    Other Info
    Pioneer Blu-ray Burner/DVD Burner
I don't know if I am using Private networking or not because I cannot access anything that tells me. It simply says that I am not connected to any network. The homegroup deal is that I am just trying to get something to work and nothing is.

Edit: The only thing that I can do is get on the internet via Wi-Fi.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 1750
    CPU
    Duo Core 2.5 G HZ
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