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Win 8 pc cant see xp machines on network

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    Win 8 pc cant see xp machines on network


    I just got a Dell pc with windows 8. I already have a network (wired and wireless) with 3 xp machines and 2 printers & internet connection. I have connected the Win 8 pc to the network wirelessly and it browses the internet fine through the network router. I also managed to get it to print on the network printer. Therefore the connections are working. However one of the xp machines has most of the files we use on a shared drive. I want to be able to access these files on the Win 8 pc but I cant see any of the xp machines. The drive is shared as all 3 xp machines can access them.
    Any ideas?

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    MS "This problem occurs if the Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder component is not installed on the Windows XP-based computer.

    Network Map in Windows Vista & later makes network diagrams of the connections between network devices that can be used to troubleshoot connectivity problems. Network Map uses a discovery protocol called Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) that queries other devices on the network to determine how the network is organized.

    Windows Vista & later includes the software components that implement the LLTD protocol. For other devices on the network to be displayed on the map, they must enable a discovery protocol that can respond to the mapping requests from the Windows Vista & later-based computer."

    For the XP Machines:
    Download Link Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder (KB922120) from Official Microsoft Download Center

    Also Make sure windows 8 network & sharing is showing your network as a "Home" Or "work" network so it trusts the local zone
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    Quote Originally Posted by joehayes999 View Post
    I just got a Dell pc with windows 8. I already have a network (wired and wireless) with 3 xp machines and 2 printers & internet connection. I have connected the Win 8 pc to the network wirelessly and it browses the internet fine through the network router. I also managed to get it to print on the network printer. Therefore the connections are working. However one of the xp machines has most of the files we use on a shared drive. I want to be able to access these files on the Win 8 pc but I cant see any of the xp machines. The drive is shared as all 3 xp machines can access them.
    Any ideas?
    Windows 8 does not support the network mapping feature.

    By default XP uses MSHOME as a workgroup name. Windows 8 uses WORKGROUP as the workgroup name. You will need to change the workgroup names to all be the same on all workgroup machines in order for those machines to see each other and share files.

    You will also need to turn on, network discovery and file and folder sharing in Windows 8 advanced sharing settings.

    It's also required that you use the same user name and password between the Windows 8 and XP machines otherwise you won't have access. On the Win8 machine, you should be setting the Public folders to share with Everyone, then put the folders you want to share into the Public folders "that's what they are there for". Also be sure that the C:>Users folder is shared with Everyone on the Windows 8 machine or sharing will not work at all.

    You will also need to set up the usual sharing permissions to allow the different levels of file access.

    These links should help.

    Workgroup Name - View and Change - Windows 7 Forums

    Share Files and Printers between Windows 7 and XP - How-To Geek
    Last edited by chev65; 22 Mar 2013 at 11:52.
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    Hi guys
    I've been following many threads and after finding no answer decided to put my issue here.
    the problem is that I have 3 pcs at home and everyone works on different system ( xp, 7, 8). So: xp and 7 can see each other (workgroup), 7 and 8 as well (both: workgroup and homegroup), 8 and xp CAN NOT.
    I've made all required settings (including instaling lltd) mentioned here and in other threads and forums with no effect.
    any ideas please?
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    Hi mattfly. Try your Firewall to make sure it is being seen. Then ping the xp computers.
    Also please next time start a new thread!
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    Hi, thanks for that. actually i've tried all of this stuff (fw-ok, ping-ok) and much more, nothing works for me. considering new thread. thanks again tarka
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    Apparently an adjustment to the Remote Desktop (TCP-in) properties on the Windows 8 machine will allow the XP machine to connect to it. You should also make sure that the XP machine has been updated via Windows update Center.

    xp machine cannot log on to Win8 machine: The link given in the - Microsoft Community
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    thanks chev, i've just updated xp (automatic updates), allowed rd tcp-in but still nothing. i think my win8 causes problem because all other configs work fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattfly View Post
    thanks chev, i've just updated xp (automatic updates), allowed rd tcp-in but still nothing. i think my win8 causes problem because all other configs work fine.
    On the XP machine, it's usually required that you set up a standard User account with the same User name and password that the Windows 8 machine is using in order to gain access.

    It might also help to set up the shares on the Win 8 machine, using the Homegroup style share settings set to share with "Everyone".
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    Windows 8 does not support the network mapping feature ??


    Windows 8 does not support the network mapping feature?? what are you talking about? of course it does?? No you dont need same username and password and he is asking about windows 8 not 7??
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