Solved dhcp works . static ip doesn't

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If I set my computer to dhcp I can get access to the router and to the internet just fine. If I go into the control panel and set it to static IP then I can't get access to anything.

Here are the steps I am taking:
In the Network and Sharing center window
I click on: Change adapter settings (In the left hand side of the window)

That gives me the Network Connections window
now I right click on "Ethernet" and scroll to the bottom and choose Properties

Now I get the Ethernet Properties window
Scrolling down to TCP/IPv4 I click that and then select properties

That gives me the Properties window (yes I know I am being detailed.. but windows 8 is new .. and maybe I am just doing something .. dumb)
Now I fill in the 5 fields in that window "Ip address" "subnet Mask" "default gateway" "preferred DNS server" "alternate DNS server" ..

then I hit ok on that window and ok on the previous window also.

At this point the "network connections window" shows my Ethernet icon and it says "network" below where it says "Ethernet" ..

and I have internet access for about 30 seconds. then I loose internet access . if I try a reboot .. the network icon in the system tray tells me it can't find a network.

is there something that I am missing?

I have windows 8 pro
I was able to have a static ip address when this same computer was running windows vista 64 bit. all I did was remove vista and put in windows 8 pro. the router stayed the same.
 

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I'd have to see the settings you were trying to use.
 

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ip address 192.168.1.103
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1

can't remember what the dns entries were, but I got them from the router (and the router acquired them from the cable modem) which is how I always found the dns entries in the past.
 

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  • OS
    windows vista 64 bit
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    Dell XPS 630
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    Intel Q6600
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    4 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia GeForce GTX 560
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (built in audio to the motherboard)
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    Samsung 2253BW
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    Logitech MX 518
Can you set it back to dhcp and give us a screenshot of an ipconfig? (cmd-> ipconfig /all)

It could be a whole different range.
 

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ip address 192.168.1.103
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1

can't remember what the dns entries were, but I got them from the router (and the router acquired them from the cable modem) which is how I always found the dns entries in the past.

Usually when this happens the static entries aren't compatible with the subnet that the router is using.

So it would help to see the ipconfig/all with DHCP enabled to see what parameters the router is using for DHCP.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Gskill 120GB SSD
    PSU
    Thermal Take 1000watts
    Case
    Thermal Take Xtreme
    Cooling
    9 fans air cooled
    Keyboard
    G15 logitech
    Mouse
    G9 logitech
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
ip address 192.168.1.103
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1

can't remember what the dns entries were, but I got them from the router (and the router acquired them from the cable modem) which is how I always found the dns entries in the past.

Usually when this happens the static entries aren't compatible with the subnet that the router is using.

So it would help to see the ipconfig/all with DHCP enabled to see what parameters the router is using for DHCP.

Basically what I was saying.

I'm a bit worried about your DNS settings though, could you set the first DNS to 192.168.1.1 and leave the second one blank or fill it with 8.8.8.8 (Google's DNS)

That is, if you are 100% sure 192.168.1.x is the right range..

Your settings should be like this:

IP addres: 192.168.1.103
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1

Preferred DNS server: 192.168.1.1
Alternative DNS server: blank / 8.8.8.8 /8.8.4.4
 

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Its been my experience that when setting up a static IP address that you don't want to use one that is in the DHCP scope of the router. So lets say your router is giving out IP addresses in the range of 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.199. In this case I would use 192.168.1.99 or lower. You can't have two PC's with the same IP address on your LAN. If you use 192.168.1.103 and the router gives it out to another PC you'll loose your connection. Also I do believe setting your DNS server info to the routers IP, 192.168.1.1 only works if DNS Forward is enabled in the router. It should be by default, but you might want to check it to make sure.
 

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    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
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    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
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    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
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    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
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    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
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You are right, but any decent router should see that an ip is taken nowadays. I can hardly believe there is an IP conflict. Again, to be sure of all of this, open up CMD and run 'ipconfig /all' and post the results here.
 

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ip address 192.168.1.103
255.255.255.0
192.168.1.1

can't remember what the dns entries were, but I got them from the router (and the router acquired them from the cable modem) which is how I always found the dns entries in the past.

Usually when this happens the static entries aren't compatible with the subnet that the router is using.

So it would help to see the ipconfig/all with DHCP enabled to see what parameters the router is using for DHCP.

Basically what I was saying.

I'm a bit worried about your DNS settings though, could you set the first DNS to 192.168.1.1 and leave the second one blank or fill it with 8.8.8.8 (Google's DNS)

That is, if you are 100% sure 192.168.1.x is the right range..

Your settings should be like this:

IP addres: 192.168.1.103
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1

Preferred DNS server: 192.168.1.1
Alternative DNS server: blank / 8.8.8.8 /8.8.4.4

I was commenting on the reply I received, my comment had nothing to do with your post. :)

Routers, even decent ones, do not see a distinction between static IP's and DHCP IP's, they will bump the static IP's offline in order to give out an unused DHCP IP. Maybe the IP is already in use because the static IP wasn't outside the range of DHCP or it could be something else.

If the static IP's aren't outside the range of DHCP then there may be an IP conflict, happens all the time and most people aren't aware of it. Just fixed one last week because the static IP's weren't outside the DHCP range.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Gskill 120GB SSD
    PSU
    Thermal Take 1000watts
    Case
    Thermal Take Xtreme
    Cooling
    9 fans air cooled
    Keyboard
    G15 logitech
    Mouse
    G9 logitech
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
I totally agree with you, but since the range is 192.168.1.x I'm assuming there are not many pc's on the network. so it would be a very strange coincidence.

(192.168.1.x is very typical for routers that are found in homes that don't have much pc's connected)
 

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I totally agree with you, but since the range is 192.168.1.x I'm assuming there are not many pc's on the network. so it would be a very strange coincidence.

(192.168.1.x is very typical for routers that are found in homes that don't have much pc's connected)

Yes most routers in the US use this range for LAN.

I'm still not sure what the problem might be because I haven't seen the ipconfig from other machines on the Op's LAN, but if the Ip was already in use that might do it.

I haven't had any problems setting up static IP's with Windows 8 so must be an IP conflict or something.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro WMC
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built
    CPU
    Q9650 @ 4.05 GHz
    Motherboard
    Gforce 780i SLI FTW
    Memory
    8GB Gskill DDR2 1200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX-480
    Sound Card
    Asus D2 Xonar
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HannsG
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Gskill 120GB SSD
    PSU
    Thermal Take 1000watts
    Case
    Thermal Take Xtreme
    Cooling
    9 fans air cooled
    Keyboard
    G15 logitech
    Mouse
    G9 logitech
    Internet Speed
    50mbps
ip conflict, wrong DNS settings, wrong range, wrong subnet, who knows.. but one thing for sure, he defined the wrong settings.
 

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just wanted to stop and say thanks for the replies. I will set it to dhcp and give you the info you requested later tonight or tomorrow. I wish I could actually do it now, but just don't have the time. but thanks for the help so far.
 

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    windows vista 64 bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 630
    CPU
    Intel Q6600
    Memory
    4 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia GeForce GTX 560
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (built in audio to the motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 2253BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 1050
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 518
Routers, even decent ones, do not see a distinction between static IP's and DHCP IP's, they will bump the static IP's offline in order to give out an unused DHCP IP. Maybe the IP is already in use because the static IP wasn't outside the range of DHCP or it could be something else.

If the static IP's aren't outside the range of DHCP then there may be an IP conflict, happens all the time and most people aren't aware of it. Just fixed one last week because the static IP's weren't outside the DHCP range.

That's what I thought, but to be honest I wasn't 100% sure as I've only ever played around with my home router.
!93.168.1.103 would indicate to me that it was used by the third device. It doesn't take long these days, even on a home network, to have three devices connected. Desktops, laptops, WIFI enabled smart phones, wireless printers, etc.
 

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    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
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Sorry I haven't gotten back in touch before now. Here is where I am at. On my old system (this same computer but just running windows vista 64bit (all I did was format and put in windows 8)) I used the same ip address, the same dns entries, the same everything and it worked there but for some reason 192.168.1.103 wouldn't work under windows 8 pro. Strange but not going to argue with strange results .. I took your advice and changed my static ip for this computer to 192.168.1.99 just in that off chance that something already had that ip. It shouldn't have been a problem since I had shut down the laptop (so no ip allocated there), and any other devices weren't talking to the network at that point so .. shouldn't have been a problem but .. again can't hurt to try. and that worked perfectly. Now have a static ip of 192.168.1.99, netmask is 255.255.255.0 and the last line is 192.168.1.1 again don't remember what the dns entries are but I get them from the router, and the router gets them from the cable modem. and have a solid connection to the internet.

thanks for the tip on changing the ip to 192.168.1.99
 

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    windows vista 64 bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 630
    CPU
    Intel Q6600
    Memory
    4 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia GeForce GTX 560
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio (built in audio to the motherboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 2253BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 1050
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 518
In that case Alphanumeric and Chev65 were right. 103 was already in use, or at least that's what your router thought.
 

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I'm glad you got it working. :thumb:
 

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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
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    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
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