windows "create recovery disk" fails.

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brand new laptop. HP. 17e UEFI +GPT etc.
upgraded to 8.1 from 8, first thing.
then clicked on the MS, create recovery. (in blind hope of a clean 8.1 restore)
inserted (32gb stick) (later found out is illegal windows 8 version, that is not removable.) SD-extreme, 32gb. list on toms HW, as winner of all, (and is useless for this app)
so i pull out my very old SD cruiser glide, 32gb (old , slow and not win 8 cert (a good thing)
yes all 32gb extremes are mapped as HDD not removable media and is doomed. (known on all forums)
but same error. (humm) the cruiser shows up i device manager under removable media....btw
but i want to find out why the missing files error.
i have a HDD and SSD, with latter mirrored. both the orig, HDD fails and SSD fails. same way.
i parked the HDD , and run only SSD. but both fail... (my guess is , upgrades 8.0 to windows 8.1 is cause)

now the screen,
attached

my simple questions, how can i find the log of these errors, it's not in event viewer.. oddly
sfc/ scannow works. as does chkdsk, and restore (create) works,. and system is Fast a lightning.
all HP apps works, cept there version of create disk for same reasons,

please help me. thanks for reading.


ps, my HP create recovery now works on the GLIDE. (old very old 32gb stick i had laying about)
so now im thinking HP? blocks the MS create so you will use theirs?

but id love to know this, what files are missing....
 

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How can you have a brand new laptop with an "illegal" 8 ?

You may be right about HP affecting the recovery drive process. Possible they have linked to their own version of recovery drive creator or similar.

Also possible your winre.wim isn't registered.

Try running reagentc /enable at an elevated command.
 

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thanks for the reagentc, check,

let me try that. and THANKS !
 

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windows RE image not found.
hp recover bu, works, got the 6 data-n.bin files on usb stick. HP works. and is RE boot disk, (USB stick) seems ok.
i was just trying win 8.1 method to see if it has a better more clean backup. of win 8.1.
thanks.
 

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If you can find winre.wim, you can point reagentc at it.

Is it in windows\system32\recovery ?

I have never heard of data-n.bin files. Some kind of weird HP format, possibly.

That is not very good. You would be better off getting the 8.1 installation iso. Not easy if you have core single language edition.
 

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thanks will do.
i used explorer (hidden off) and ransack to search all partitions
C: has no .wim
D: REcovery has 5, wim's ,all HP and for their recovery disk. build.wim, etc .

D: build, ESP, INSTALL, BOOT, WINUCRD.WIM.
the later is in folder called winRE
 

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Boot.wim is probably winre.wim that has been renamed.
 

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thanks ! ill give that that spin.

so i use reagentc /enable

to register the boot.wim.

reagentc /setreimage /D : path /enable

like that. ill try
 

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Not quite.

Reagentc /setreimage will only recognise filename winre.wim.

If you like , you can make folder on c: called anything you want, e.g. Recovery, or recimage or whatever.

Copy boot.wim into that folder. Rename the boot.wim you just copied to winre.wim.

Then register it with reagentc /setreimage command. It should then boot up if you press f8 at startup.

If you want a clean osimage to refresh/reset from, then copy install.wim from the 8.1 installation iso into a folder somewhere - another partition is best. Call that folder a sensible name, e.g osimg. Then register it with reagentc /setosimage command.

Lastly, enable the changes with reagentc /enable.
 

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That is the general idea.

However, there is a small snag. It looks like your boot.wim as supplied is 8.0

To make it work properly, you need to copy winre.wim from 8.1 installation media into your c:\recovery folder.

You can find winre.wim by using 7-zip to open the 8.1.iso, scroll to sources\install.wim. Inside image 1 windows\system32\recovery you will find winre.wim.

7z1.jpg

7z2.jpg

7z3.jpg

7z4.jpg
 

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what great advice,
i will do all that,

thanks
 

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thats some fancy decoder you have (7zip?)
i extracted the install.wim from iso 3gb.

then attempted to 7zip, that wim and 7zip barfs. cant open xxx ver 926alph 7zip. too.

oops ver 9.34 works,,,, had to search for newest alpha. ok its only 213mB file, easy.
back to work...\
success
success
ok, its now asking for 32gb stick.... ok,
ill will do that next....

your magic all is 100% perfect.
THANKS !
 
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    HP stock.
    Memory
    8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    HP
    Browser
    firefox.
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    ms, defender +malwarebytes pro and winpatrol pro
Sounds like you are on the right track. I take it from your last line above - all completed successfully. :)
 

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Would still like to know how you got an illegal copy of Windows 8 on a brand new HP laptop?

Why not return it and get a legal one?
 

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it's not illegal
its just a new HP 17E-067cl (new in box) + new SSD. new on box.
with oem license, for 8.0.
my post was why did my hp recover disk fail.
answer1: windows 8 flash sticks are no good. solved. (only removal sticks work, in dev. manager)
snswer2: the windows actual. recovery disc feature is dead, due to , HP deleting winre.win from the partition
or MS 8.1 update over orig. 8.0, failed to put it THERE. (not way for me to tell now... water under bridge....)

i can prove all this, have full receipts. from Tigerdirect dot com. (long time buyer there and new egg big time)
all of our systems are 100% legit.
it authenticates. before, 8.1 and after. so..... is legit. it did so in 5 seconds flat , out of box...

im at store buying more thumb drives now...
 

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    4core
    Motherboard
    HP stock.
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    8gb
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    HP
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    firefox.
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    ms, defender +malwarebytes pro and winpatrol pro
PS the first thumb only burns at 5mb;/s so took two+ hours.
my 25x speed, thumb is fastest made but will not work with hp recover. (ask HP, about rebecca blunders)
but no complaints after all 7 DVDs is not in my game plan, i can backup, and go to sleep and let the slow stick burn.
it's not a problem, it's GREAT.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    w8.1
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    4core
    Motherboard
    HP stock.
    Memory
    8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    HP
    Browser
    firefox.
    Antivirus
    ms, defender +malwarebytes pro and winpatrol pro
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