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Need help trying to create an ISO of the windows 8.1 dvd. I want to make a bootable USB stick when I go to install it to speed things up and make a backup copy. I can create the ISO using Alcohol 120 but when I use the Windows 7 USB/DVD tool to open the ISO it says it is not a valid ISO file.

Every other bit of software can read it okay so it is an ISO file as far as I can tell.

Anyone got any thoughts??
 

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I can create the ISO using Alcohol 120 but when I use the Windows 7 USB/DVD tool to open the ISO it says it is not a valid ISO file.
Yes, the Windows 7 USB/DVD tool will complain if you don't have the option UDF selected. I don't use alcohol so I don't know if it has this option but with UltraISO or PowerISO, you set it from the property. See Screen Shot.

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BTW, with USB Stick, You don't really need to use the tool, just use 7-Zip or Winrar to extract the content of the ISO file to the root of the USB then it should work
 

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I was certain I used the Windows7-usb-dvd tool to make my 8.1 bootable USB. Now you make me doubt myself. Guess I'll test it and report back.
 

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I use the Windows 7 DVD download tool to make my bootable thumb drives all the time. It can be fussy about the ISO being used though. I have never had an issue with any on my TechNet ISO's though. I have seen it reject modified ISO's in the past, stuff obtained on bit torrent for example. One draw back to this utility is it formats the drive in NTFS. This can be an issue when installing in UEFI mode. Some motherboard BIOS require the drive to be formatted in FAT 32 for UEFI mode to work. I've had to resort to using the diskpart method for my Wife's Acer.
 

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    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
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    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
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    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
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    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
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    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
I use the Windows 7 DVD download tool to make my bootable thumb drives all the time. It can be fussy about the ISO being used though. I have never had an issue with any on my TechNet ISO's though. I have seen it reject modified ISO's in the past, stuff obtained on bit torrent for example. One draw back to this utility is it formats the drive in NTFS. This can be an issue when installing in UEFI mode. Some motherboard BIOS require the drive to be formatted in FAT 32 for UEFI mode to work. I've had to resort to using the diskpart method for my Wife's Acer.
Of course if you use the ISO's downloaded from TechNet then you won't have any problem because they built them with the correct format (Ie. UDF). However, The OP in this thread wants to build an ISO from his DVD and if he does not use the UDF (Universal Disk Format) format then the tool will not work and will give the error message above.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brewed
    CPU
    I7 4970K OC'ed @4.7 GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI-Z97
    Memory
    16 GB G-Skill Trident X @2400MHZ
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450
    Sound Card
    X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual HP-W2408
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    256 GB M2 sm951, (2) 500GB 850EVO, 5TB, 2 TB Seagate
    PSU
    Antec 850W
    Case
    Antec 1200
    Cooling
    Danger Den H20
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance Mouse MX
    Internet Speed
    35/12mbps
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    Firefox
Of course if you use the ISO's downloaded from TechNet then you won't have any problem.
"Of course" might be a bit strong. I didn't know that :(
 

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    T7600
    Memory
    3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon X1600
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Internal
    Screen Resolution
    1440 x 800
    Hard Drives
    40GB
    Keyboard
    Apple
    Mouse
    Apple
    Internet Speed
    Varies
    Browser
    Various
    Antivirus
    Defender
I use the Windows 7 DVD download tool to make my bootable thumb drives all the time. It can be fussy about the ISO being used though. I have never had an issue with any on my TechNet ISO's though. I have seen it reject modified ISO's in the past, stuff obtained on bit torrent for example. One draw back to this utility is it formats the drive in NTFS. This can be an issue when installing in UEFI mode. Some motherboard BIOS require the drive to be formatted in FAT 32 for UEFI mode to work. I've had to resort to using the diskpart method for my Wife's Acer.
Of course if you use the ISO's downloaded from TechNet then you won't have any problem because they built them with the correct format (Ie. UDF). However, The OP in this thread wants to build an ISO from his DVD and if he does not use the UDF (Universal Disk Format) format then the tool will not work and will give the error message above.

I get it bud. I was just making a comment based on past experience and pointing out that UEFI can be fussy about how the bootable thumb drives are created.
 

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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
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    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
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    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
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    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
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    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
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    Thermaltake TR 620
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    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
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    Stock heatsink fan
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    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
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    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
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    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
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    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
Personally, I wouldn't bother with Alcohol (unless it's single malt) or Windows 7 USB/DVD tool - my weapons of choice are UltraISO and Rufus....and yes UDF is the way to go :-}
 

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    16K, 640K max
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    What's that?
    Sound Card
    Not quite
    Screen Resolution
    80 X 24 text
    Hard Drives
    dual 160KB 5.25-inch disk drives
Thanks guys. Had more issues so went the Rufus route.

Decided that I really needed a bigger USB stick and went for a Sandisk 16GB USB3 stick. Bad choice.

Turns out Sandisk USB sticks show up as a fixed drive not a removable drive and thus the USB tool would not see it. Rufus though saw it and did the job.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    WIN8.1/Server 2012 R2/Win 7 Ultimate
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-4960X Extreme 3.6 GHz, Socket 2011, Ivy Bridge-E
    Motherboard
    Asus P9X79 Deluxe
    Memory
    32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum CMD16GX3M2A1866C
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GV-N78TOC-3GD, GeForce GTX 780 Ti
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP LP2475w
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    2x240GB Sandisk SSD, 2x3TB Segate 7200RPM
    PSU
    1500w Spider
    Case
    CoolerMaster HAF X
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro Series H105
Thanks guys. Had more issues so went the Rufus route.

Decided that I really needed a bigger USB stick and went for a Sandisk 16GB USB3 stick. Bad choice.

Turns out Sandisk USB sticks show up as a fixed drive not a removable drive and thus the USB tool would not see it. Rufus though saw it and did the job.

Same thing happened to me when I tried to use a SanDisk thumb drive. I ended up using diskpart.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
Thanks guys. Had more issues so went the Rufus route.

Decided that I really needed a bigger USB stick and went for a Sandisk 16GB USB3 stick. Bad choice.

Turns out Sandisk USB sticks show up as a fixed drive not a removable drive and thus the USB tool would not see it. Rufus though saw it and did the job.

Same thing happened to me when I tried to use a SanDisk thumb drive. I ended up using diskpart.

That's interesting.. if it shows as fixed does it mean one can partition it? As in for UEFI having boot on FAT32 and WiM on NTFS? (to overcome the 4GB restriction of FAT32)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    PC-DOS v1.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    IBM
    CPU
    Intel 8088, 4.77MHz
    Memory
    16K, 640K max
    Graphics Card(s)
    What's that?
    Sound Card
    Not quite
    Screen Resolution
    80 X 24 text
    Hard Drives
    dual 160KB 5.25-inch disk drives
Thanks guys. Had more issues so went the Rufus route.

Decided that I really needed a bigger USB stick and went for a Sandisk 16GB USB3 stick. Bad choice.

Turns out Sandisk USB sticks show up as a fixed drive not a removable drive and thus the USB tool would not see it. Rufus though saw it and did the job.

Same thing happened to me when I tried to use a SanDisk thumb drive. I ended up using diskpart.

That's interesting.. if it shows as fixed does it mean one can partition it? As in for UEFI having boot on FAT32 and WiM on NTFS? (to overcome the 4GB restriction of FAT32)

You can format it as Fat or NTFS just like any thumb drive. It just doesn't show up as removable media. The windows 7 DVD download tool ignores them because of this, it looks for removable media.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
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