I hope they will have a 32bit also because 64bit is a pain in Win7 - and that's all the OEMs install. My gadgets on the transferred Vista sidebar don't work, for 64bit Revo I have to pay, etc.
I think they make a mistake pushing 64bit (at least now). They should wait until everybody is ready. Reminds me the early days of Vista.
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Originally Posted by whs
I hope they will have a 32bit also because 64bit is a pain in Win7 - and that's all the OEMs install. My gadgets on the transferred Vista sidebar don't work, for 64bit Revo I have to pay, etc.
I think they make a mistake pushing 64bit (at least now). They should wait until everybody is ready. Reminds me the early days of Vista.
It'll take decades if they 'wait' for everyone to be ready. A push is needed. Besides, if they made Windows 8 64-bit only, that means they can focus more on ONE architecture with fixing bugs.
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It'll take decades if they 'wait' for everyone to be ready. A push is needed. Besides, if they made Windows 8 64-bit only, that means they can focus more on ONE architecture with fixing bugs.
I am not so shure about "decades". I don't know whether you remember Febr.07. Half of the drivers did not work then - same for many programs. I remember being on the phone with Linksys for 3 hours to configure my router that I bought 2 hours earlier. But 6 months later things were a lot smoother.
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Originally Posted by whs
I am not so shure about "decades". I don't know whether you remember Febr.07. Half of the drivers did not work then - same for many programs. I remember being on the phone with Linksys for 3 hours to configure my router that I bought 2 hours earlier. But 6 months later things were a lot smoother.
That was also 3 years ago. Although no I do not remember it. Lol
Maybe not decades, but who knows? Obviously the move to 64-bit is speeding up since OEM's are preinstalling 64-bit on almost every machine capable of running 64-bit. Microsoft (in my opinion) needs to just push it. If people really NEED the latest OS, get a new PC or one that can handle 64-bit. Microsoft shouldn't need to cater to old hardware forever.
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That was also 3 years ago. Although no I do not remember it. Lol
Maybe not decades, but who knows? Obviously the move to 64-bit is speeding up since OEM's are preinstalling 64-bit on almost every machine capable of running 64-bit. Microsoft (in my opinion) needs to just push it. If people really NEED the latest OS, get a new PC or one that can handle 64-bit. Microsoft shouldn't need to cater to old hardware forever.
In principle I agree with you. This vintage stuff is in the way of progress. But the timing must be right. Maybe a few months of agony will solve it. It is just annoying if some of your pet programs don't run.
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Originally Posted by whs
In principle I agree with you. This vintage stuff is in the way of progress. But the timing must be right. Maybe a few months of agony will solve it. It is just annoying if some of your pet programs don't run.
I can understand people not wanting change because 'everything works fine the way it is now' but we need to keep moving to better things. Keeping support for such outdated hardware isn't helping.
As for programs, well, the developers should be fixing any problems with the most current versions of Windows. :|
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Unfortunately as we move to better things, we also make steps backwards - see the move from Vista to win7. Whilst there are many things that I would call progress, there were also functions lost and in many areas, the user interface was set back to the XP mess.
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It's all about marketing. If they market 64-bit well enough, get the drivers manufacturers with the program so that there are minimal issues, they could sell 64-bit only very successfully.
Everyone wants "The latest and Greatest", so if they market 64-bit as such, they can win over a few people that way. Also cheaper, if they can save operating cost by making 64-bit only and pass it on to the consumers, people will eat it up.
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Surely it's all about the driver and application support. The 64-bit OS has been around for years yet how many apps natively support 64-bit? Not even the latest version of Office (2007) has a 64-bit version. I think that while a change is necessary it takes more than just Microsoft to embrace it and developers don't seem that keen at the moment.