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dakeb

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Did the update to Win 8.1 last night, simultaneously I downloaded Roxio installation files.

Over WiFi this takes 2 hours.

8.1 finished first, and wanted to restart. Roxio had 20 minutes to go.

There was absolutely no way I could prevent 8.1 restarting my computer. It didn't wait for ongoing processes to end. Just bang, restart, ditch the downloads in progress!

How on earth can Microsoft force you to restart against your wishes? This is so stupid!

Luckily I managed to salvage the Roxio installation file, but it could easily have been a process that was unsalvageable.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Sony Vaio
    Memory
    4Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Onboard
    Antivirus
    AVG
Apparently you can edit the registry with this to stop those annoying restarts: -

either from a command prompt:

reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU" /v NoAutoRebootWithLoggedOnUsers /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

or from elevated powershell:

New-ItemProperty "HKLM:SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\au" -Name "NoAutoRebootWithLoggedOnUsers" -PropertyType "DWord" -Value 1

However, I am not entirely sure this would have worked (it might have) for the 8.1 upgrade as Windows might not have seen it as an automatic update? However, it should work for future automatic updates (ones not initiated by the user).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Sony Vaio
    Memory
    4Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Onboard
    Antivirus
    AVG
Roxio is not part of the 8 to 8.1 update, not as far as I know anyway. If you were installing Roxio while also updating to 8.1 you were asking for problems, IMHO. If that was not the case then please elaborate on what happened?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
I wasn't simultaneously installing Roxio, I was just downloading the installation files to install later. During Win 8.1 installation it clearly says you can carry on doing other things on your computer.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Sony Vaio
    Memory
    4Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Onboard
    Antivirus
    AVG
OK, Roxio must be installed and picked that time to update itself. Just bad timing I guess.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
Not bad timing, coming from Windows 7 I never knew until now it is impossible to stop Windows 8 from automatically restarting your computer. What's worse is it gives you a five minute warning that it's going to do it, but there it's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it. You just have to sit and watch your processes terminate.

This is a really crappy "feature".
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Sony Vaio
    Memory
    4Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Onboard
    Antivirus
    AVG
The update should really ask you before restarting but then again If I'm doing a major update like this I close everything and focus on just the update.
 

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System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel 3770K i7 Ivy Bridge oc 4.5 GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus P8Z77 Premium
    Memory
    32GB Corsair Platinum
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GTX 780
    Hard Drives
    Crucial 512GB SSD
    2x 3TB Seagate
    PSU
    Corsair HX850
    Case
    Corsair White Graphite 600T
    Cooling
    Corsair H80i
    Keyboard
    Roccat Isku
    Mouse
    Roccat Kone XTD
The update should really ask you before restarting but then again If I'm doing a major update like this I close everything and focus on just the update.

It does, but there is no option to prevent it. It was a two hour installation, I wanted to do other things simultaneously, as I had completely wiped my disc.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Sony Vaio
    Memory
    4Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Onboard
    Antivirus
    AVG
Anytime I've ever seen that prompt there was a postpone option and you could tack some extra time onto it. I've only ever done the store update once and that was a while ago so I can't recall what I saw then.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
They took away your option to postpone it. This is why I am angry.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Sony Vaio
    Memory
    4Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Onboard
    Antivirus
    AVG
OK, that sucks?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
I was a bit surprised, maybe more than a bit! when the computer said, it is rebooting in a few seconds! I thought I was just download it to install at my leisure, instead, it was doing an install as it downloaded... not much notice... I bet it caught a lot of people off guard!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    i5
    Motherboard
    Asus
    Memory
    G.Skill 8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GTX460
    Browser
    MSIE
    Antivirus
    Norton
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