theog; I have also been talking to a person named Dana who has a video out on utube and I had sent him several screen shots of my bios screens this was after I had set everything back to out of the box. he told me to use f9 as if I use f10 it brings up a menu when you go into bios and f2 diag. f9 boot options f10 change boot options and this is how I did it. I feel confident enough that I am going to try it. to rebuild it all from the beginning takes me about 3 hours. I want to have everything working before I upgrade to 8.1 and if that goes well then I want an image of it for sure. I have too many steps to go thru.
Hi theog well everything went as I was hoping. I created the image. backed up all files just in case. deleted several files and folders. did the boot as have always done. verified the image file. restore. when I exited it all came back.
really never changed anything as you said I shouldn't have to.
thanks for all your questions to make me think and be sure.
Peter2 !!!! it worked just like I had hoped and prayed.
did the image. backed up my files, booted just as I wrote. verified the image file. selected restore. when I exited it brought up the system. also after the backup I deleted several files and pic. folders and they were just perfect.
I don't know how to thank you enough for pushing me into image but with all this new file structure stuff and Macrium works just great with the system I have. I am sure you know how to get ahold of me anytime and I think working with you was one great experience.
I am very happy for you. You must have the older BIOS not the UEFI correct?
Congratulations and be secure.
I just verified 2 new images and put one on each of 2 external drives -over protected.
I ran sfc 1st and found some corrupted files which dism fixed.
peter2. No I have UEFI on this system. HP Pavilion 23 F20 touchscreen. beautiful desktop. 4gig memory. 3.4 ghz processor. Ackee Bios Rev 80.02
that is why I could never do or find some of the things you were telling me.
Once I set the bios back to defaults then re installed factory settings I went right in to Macrium 5.2 created the rescue disk and chose winPE4 then into the image disks and the window came up all the disks and files were checked hit enter for the output file I keyed in G:/windows 8 pro it created the folder. I did set up a new folder on G: and that is where the backup files go. the only problem I had was the external hard drive was password protected and it locks it everytime you power down. so I disabled that and when you boot like I wrote you the steps I take and no f12
when Macrium comes up it displays all of your image files in that folder and they are dated and time stamped so all you have to do is verify it and then restore.
I have done at least a dozen so far and could do this in my sleep.
If I can ever do any help for you please send a note and we will see what we can solve.
Thanks again for all the many notes and encouragement.
I need slow help.
You have UEFI and never disabled the secure boot and did not launch CMA.
I think you are saying you created the Win PE4 disc under create rescue media - How do you do that and what happens?
Please lay out some steps for me please as I am not understanding your "quick steps" above?
Good morning Peter2:
Yes I have UEFI. Secure Boot.
When you start up Macrium for the first time it tells you to create a Rescue CD or DVD.
I chose the WinPE option. it took about 5 min. to create it.
I then created my first image file. I chose Image Disk from the screen. this opens a new window where it shows all the drives on the system and they usually all appear with a check mark. be sure they are all checked.
then the next window shows the out screen and there I set G:/windows 8 Pro and that is where the new image file will be put. there you have the date and time of the creation. I had also created just a folder on G: called New Folder.
this is that backup file that is created at the same time.
takes me about 13 minutes to create an image.
Also so far I have not found an easy way to verify the image file. So following my steps here is what I do.
Place the rescue DVD into the drive don't close it yet. Power down and then close the drive.
I power up and hold F9 and this takes me in to boot options in the Bios.
arrow down to the line that shows cddvdw you then hit enter and it will select the entry and start the boot. BE SURE to watch as a msg will appear soon after HIT ANY KEY TO BOOT FROM THE CD OR DVD be sure to do that right away I just hit enter again. the it starts the boot process.
Then Macrium program starts up. you should see a list of all the image files. It is here I do my verify. also here you can do the restore and other options a window appears and you can delete the file.
When the restore runs it looks much like the image process. when done there are a couple of questions and then exit and up comes the system.
when you select cddvdw in the boot options that does not change anything but just allows you to boot. Secure Boot is still in control and that is how they protect your system Malware or other things that could be on a cd or dvd.
Today I will look thru Macrium and see if there is some way to verify the image just created by not having to go thru the boot process.
Again right now my system is back to when it came out of the box. I went in and selected get more features and options which is located in the system folder in control panel. it brings up a window that allowed me to put in the key that I received back in the beginning when I purchased Windows 8 Pro. so right now I am running 8 Pro and when they release 8.1 I am expecting that the windows store will see that and upgrade me to 8.1 Pro.
Thanks a lot Larry.
I have to find out if the Win PE disc works with both UEFI and BIOS pcs and if the BIOS pc can make the UEFI disc.. If it does I will make it now and if not will do when I get the UEFI pc. The reason is, I don't know if the BIOS PC (mine)will make the right disc!
Thank you for all your continued help.
Peter2 I was just on the Macrium forum and saw your image questions.
I had mentioned to you that the only right now that I have found to verify the image was to do the boot process.
is that what seeknomore is also saying?
not a big deal but being able to re open the program and go to the image would be more efficient.