License confustion in a VM

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I want to run Win 8 Pro in a VMWARE WORKSTATION 9 vm so when ms comes out with new os'es and or I get a new pc with one I can just move/convert the vm and keep running it as is without reactivation if possible or at least be able to always reactivate it.

I understand there are OEM and Upgrade versions, but I can find no full retail version anywhere like I did with win 7 that allows me to MOVE, not copy, the os to a new machine. Can anybody tell me which, or if, there is a version that will let me do what I want to do? Note I currently have an unactivated version of win 7 premium.

If I can do so any helpful hints how are also most welcome.

Thanks
 

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The OEM really is the equivalent now of the full license. It can be moved to another computer.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
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    Self-Built in July 2009
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    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
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    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
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    ABS M1 Mechanical
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    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
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    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
You can download the License Term Agreement for any version of Windws you like here:

License Terms

Make sure you select the product as windows, then select a version. good luck.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
The OEM really is the equivalent now of the full license. It can be moved to another computer.

I'm not sure I can agree with the above statement. Do you have a written reference you could point me to? Now, if true, I'll never have to buy a full retail license again. Thanks in advance for your response.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Upgrade to Windows 8 - Microsoft Windows

Microsoft said:
Purchasing a full version of Windows 8


If you want to build your own PC and install Windows 8 or Windows 8 Pro, or want an additional operating system running in either a local virtual machine or separate partition (including a Mac), you can purchase the Windows 8 or Windows 8 Pro System Builder products (OEM versions). If available in your country or region, Windows 8 and Windows 8 Pro System Builder products can be purchased at participating stores, you'll need to ask a sales rep for more info. This version doesn't include customer support.
 

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System One

  • OS
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Other Info
    Notebooks x 3

    Desktops x 5

    Towers x 4
The OEM really is the equivalent now of the full license. It can be moved to another computer.

I'm not sure I can agree with the above statement. Do you have a written reference you could point me to? Now, if true, I'll never have to buy a full retail license again. Thanks in advance for your response.



It's all clearly explained in this link, as well as the ability to transfer it to another computer.
Personal Use License
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built in July 2009
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Acer x233H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
The OEM really is the equivalent now of the full license. It can be moved to another computer.

I'm not sure I can agree with the above statement. Do you have a written reference you could point me to? Now, if true, I'll never have to buy a full retail license again. Thanks in advance for your response.



It's all clearly explained in this link, as well as the ability to transfer it to another computer.
Personal Use License

Well, I asked... and you showed! I was unaware that MS added the Personal Use License (as an additional clause) to the OEM System Builder License in August 2012. BTW, the links on the page you directed me to were broken so I found a direct link to the Personal Use License here: http://personaluselicense.windows.com/en-US/default.aspx Thank you.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
I'm not sure I can agree with the above statement. Do you have a written reference you could point me to? Now, if true, I'll never have to buy a full retail license again. Thanks in advance for your response.



It's all clearly explained in this link, as well as the ability to transfer it to another computer.
Personal Use License

Well, I asked... and you showed! I was unaware that MS added the Personal Use License (as an additional clause) to the OEM System Builder License in August 2012. BTW, the links on the page you directed me to were broken so I found a direct link to the Personal Use License here: http://personaluselicense.windows.com/en-US/default.aspx Thank you.

Update: I went back and read that Personal Use License again and I noticed there was information that needed to be submitted (to MS) to accept the license terms (see below agreement for submit button) so I'm just wondering if one needs to submit that additional information to formalize the activation of the Personal Use clause?
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro Windows 8.1 Preview
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Link works here.

Personal Use Licence

Micosoft said:
Personal Use Licence Page Overview

If you are building a computer for your personal use or installing an additional operating system in a virtual machine, you can now purchase OEM System Builder software using the Personal Use Licence.
Page ContentHow the Personal Use Licence works
Use of OEM System Builder software for Windows 8 or Windows 8 Pro is subject to the following licensing terms:

System Builder product may be used:

•As the operating system on a computer that you build for personal use.
•As an operating system running either on a local virtual machine or as an additional operating system in a separate partition.

System Builder product may not be used:
•As an upgrade licence for an existing underlying Windows operating system.
•To legalise a non-genuine Windows operating system.
•To licence more than five copies of the software (in total) for commercial use.
In order to use OEM System Builder software for personal use, you will need to read and accept the terms in the Personal Use Licence.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    ME, XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Other Info
    Notebooks x 3

    Desktops x 5

    Towers x 4
Thanks for all the info and links.

The microsoft link does seem to imply you can move it between pcs or vms.
I also found an independent link who referenced this source and says the same thing.

Now one last question. At NewEgg it says BOTH oem and personal use may NOT be transferred to another machine.
Are they wrong or just trying to sell us more copies?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win 7 ultimate
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Thanks for all the info and links.

The microsoft link does seem to imply you can move it between pcs or vms.
I also found an independent link who referenced this source and says the same thing.

Now one last question. At NewEgg it says BOTH oem and personal use may NOT be transferred to another machine.
Are they wrong or just trying to sell us more copies?

Hi there
Initially there was some confusion as when W8 first appeared there was concern that even with a NON OEM copy it would be restricted to the machine it was installed on - that was soon changed. It was even more restrictive moving Office 2013 around too -- also since changed.

If you have license queries it's always better to get info from THE OWNERS of the material (i.e in this case Ms) rather than 3rd parties even if they are flogging Ms stuff.

BTW the situation is confusing also if you "clone" VM's on identical virtual hardware since a cloned Virtual machine is identical in every way to the Virtual machine it was cloned from and it will never request re-activation - however while cloning IMO is 100% legit (you often want to run different software or test some alternate settings) you aren't under the EULA from what I can see allowed to run more than ONE of these at a time.

I can't see Ms going bonkers on this one - otherwise for testing you'd need zillions of activations -- however in the past Ms was very cagey on anything to do with virtual machines -- now though it's become much more mainstream.

IMO Ms ought to have some sort of "Developers Test License" for HOME users - but that seems as far off as ever with MSDN subscriptions out of reach for most home users and TechNet closing down soon.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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  • OS
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10
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    PC/Desktop
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1 X LG 40 inch TV
    Hard Drives
    SSD's * 3 (Samsung 840 series) 250 GB
    2 X 3 TB sata
    5 X 1 TB sata
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