Solved Intel Rapid Start and GPT-mode?

Burgurne · Nov 15, 2012

Greetings.
Installed Windows 8 in GPT-mode, and the manual from Intel on how to make the hibernate-partition, does not seem to work, when the SSD is not in MBR-mode. In diskpart I can create the partition, but I can't set it to ID=84 when in GPT-mode. Diskpart returns an error, saying that it is not legal setting. Does anybody know what to about this?
Intel Rapid Start works really fast in my Windows 7 MBR installation, so I would really like to have it in Windows 8 too.

Kebero · Nov 15, 2012

Why are you trying to make a hibernate partition?

Burgurne · Nov 15, 2012

Intels manual:
http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/rapid_start_technology_user_guide.pdf

Because on my stationar PC from completely off power and until desktop is up and running is less than 10 seconds, that includes POST, hibernate start, userprogram start, services start. There is no other way I know off, to get a PC start this fast from POWER OFF.

Kebero · Nov 15, 2012

Windows 8 has a fast startup feature which uses the existing hiberfile.sys to store the kernel and system files to speed up cold boot times. You shouldn't need to use this (and it may not have carried over from 7 to 8, but don't quote me on that).
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Burgurne · Nov 16, 2012

Oh yes it does. I have it up and running now. This "Intel rapid start" is about as fast as the time spendig on POST alone with normal boot or hibernation, so Intel Rapid Start is by far the fastest startup. Same time in win7 and win 8. From power off until running desktop is about 9 seconds on a stationary PC.

Instead of setting the partition to ID084 then this has to be written for the "hibernate" partition on a GPT disk:
CREATE PARTITION MSR

If you havent try Intel Rapid Start, I can see, why you think windows 8's "partly" hibernation is fast

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Intel Rapid Start ONLY works from SSD though, where Windows 8's way works on HDDs as well.

Belzebutt · Nov 20, 2012

Burgurne said:
Oh yes it does. I have it up and running now. This "Intel rapid start" is about as fast as the time spendig on POST alone with normal boot or hibernation, so Intel Rapid Start is by far the fastest startup. Same time in win7 and win 8. From power off until running desktop is about 9 seconds on a stationary PC.

Instead of setting the partition to ID084 then this has to be written for the "hibernate" partition on a GPT disk:
CREATE PARTITION MSR

If you havent try Intel Rapid Start, I can see, why you think windows 8's "partly" hibernation is fast .

Intel Rapid Start ONLY works from SSD though, where Windows 8's way works on HDDs as well.

Can you please post more details on how you got this to work? I installed Windows 8 on my Samsung NP900X3C and I have the following error:

DISKPART> set id=84 override

The specified type is not in the correct format.
For more information on the command type: HELP SET

Is that what you had? I originally installed Windows 8 filling up the entire drive, then I made a 4096 MB partition at the end and I'm trying to make it a hybernate partition like you did:

DISKPART> list vol

Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
Volume 0 C NTFS Partition 114 GB Healthy Boot
* Volume 1 RAW Partition 4096 MB Healthy
Volume 2 Recovery NTFS Partition 300 MB Healthy Hidden
Volume 3 FAT32 Partition 100 MB Healthy System

DISKPART> sel vol 1

Volume 1 is the selected volume.

DISKPART> set id=84 override

The specified type is not in the correct format.
For more information on the command type: HELP SET

Burgurne · Nov 21, 2012

Hello.
The following is ONLY for GPT setup SSDs.
First off, if you have 4Gb RAM, you have to make the partition 4100 Mbyte NOT 4096Mbyte, as it needs a little space to hold partitions-values. I have 8Gbyte ram, and my partition is not 8192Mbyte, but 8200Mbyte.

Instead of this "DISKPART> create partition primary size=XX"

use this "DISKPART> create partition MSR size=XX"

DON'T SET ID=84!

After that just exit and install the software from intel. That is what I did. Hope you get it to work, else write back again. It is really cool when working

Belzebutt · Nov 21, 2012

How do I know if I have a GPT setup SSD? I have a Samsung U100 on my NP900X3C.

I created the MSR partition as you said (actually tried 4300 because that's what I read it uses in the OEM config in Win7).

When I run the Intel RST install it runs for a while and then exists. I reboot, then the installer runs on startup. A command prompt window briefly shows saying "success in deleting scheduled task something or other". Then another window pops up too quickly for me to read. Then nothing. If I reboot again, same thing. I don't get prompted anymore to create a hibernation partition. I don't see any utility installed or anything, how would I even know it's done?

When I put the laptop to sleep I only see it go off once, it doesn't do the sleep/wake/sleep like I think it's supposed to if IRST is working.

Burgurne · Nov 21, 2012

Have you enabled Intel Rapid Start in your BIOS?

When running a CMD and then run DISKPART and then LIST DISK you can see if there is a small dot under GPT

You can see the dot at my disk 3. This is a GPT partition. If no dot, then it is a MBR.

Belzebutt · Nov 21, 2012

I don't seem to have any IRST settings in the BIOS, even though my laptop came with IRST working out of the box with Win7.

This is what I see in diskpart:

DISKPART> sel disk 0

Disk 0 is now the selected disk.

DISKPART> list part

Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 Recovery 300 MB 1024 KB
Partition 2 System 100 MB 301 MB
Partition 3 Reserved 128 MB 401 MB
Partition 4 Primary 114 GB 529 MB

DISKPART> create part MSR size=4300

DiskPart succeeded in creating the specified partition.

DISKPART> list part

Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 Recovery 300 MB 1024 KB
Partition 2 System 100 MB 301 MB
Partition 3 Reserved 128 MB 401 MB
Partition 4 Primary 114 GB 529 MB
* Partition 5 Reserved 4300 MB 115 GB

DISKPART> list disk

Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
-------- ------------- ------- ------- --- ---
* Disk 0 Online 119 GB 1024 KB *

DISKPART>

Edit: since the spaces get mangled, yes, there's a start under GTP for my disk.

Burgurne · Nov 21, 2012

If IRS worked in Win7, where is the partition it needs then? Do you deleted it?

maybe IRS has a different name in your BIOS. It needs to be enabled for the software to install properly.

Belzebutt · Nov 21, 2012

Yes I removed all the old partitions from my drive and did a clean install. There was a large useless recovery partition there.

I'm sure whatever needs to be enabled in the BIOS is already enabled, since I didn't disable anything before installing Windows 8.

Burgurne · Nov 22, 2012

Then I can't help you. I have never heard of a BIOS where this special setting don't have a choise to Enable<>disable.
Sorry mate.

kl2999 · Mar 8, 2013

I got this issue too when I first install a clean windows 8 on my Dell XPS L322X. Then after some search I have found the solution from Intel website.

The steps from Burgurne are 100% on the from the right path. Just note, some machines like XPS L322X bios A06/A07 doesn't have the IRRS option when the software is not installed on the OS side. This is same for other Intel services like Smart Connect. After the software is install on OS side the option will appear in Bios end.

Here's some of the steps from Intel's note. Assume you already have a 4Gb or more unallocated space on your SSD drive. For my case, I'd allocated 8192Mb (4Gb physical RAM on my XPS)

Configure Intel Rapid Start Technology in BIOS Setup (Depend on make and bios version)
-Press the F2 key during boot up to enter the Intel® Visual BIOS.
-Click on Advanced Setup, and then click on Power.
-Locate the setting for Intel Rapid Start Technology and click on the check box to enable it.
-Set Hibernation Timer to Immediately.
-Press the F10 key to save settings and restart the system.

Create a Primary Store Partition on the SSD
-In the OS, click the Windows Start button.
-In the Search box, type in cmd.exe.
-Right-click on the cmd tool and select Run as administrator. (optional depend on if you got UAC on or not)
-A command line utility will open. Type in diskpart.exe and press Enter.
-At the diskpart prompt, type the following commands as shown:

DISKPART> list disk

Note: If this is an EFI OS (GPT format disk), then you will see an asterisk under the column GPT

DISKPART> select disk X

(X is the disk number where you want to create the hibernation partition. Refer to results from “list disk” for exact disk number. Disk must be a SSD)

DISKPART> create partition primary size=YYYY

(YYYY is the hibernation partition size in megabytes larger than the amount of memory installed on the system. As an example, for 4 GB of system memory, the value should be 4096 or higher)

DISKPART> detail disk
DISKPART> select Volume Z

(Z is the newly created RAW partition. Refer to results from “detail disk” for exact volume number)

DISKPART> set id=D3BFE2DE-3DAF-11DF-BA40-E3A556D89593
DISKPART>exit

The key here is select Volume and set the ID. After that is done, you MUST restart your computer. After that you should able to install the Intel Rapid Start software.

Belzebutt · Mar 8, 2013

kl2999 said:
I got this issue too when I first install a clean windows 8 on my Dell XPS L322X. Then after some search I have found the solution from Intel website.

The steps from Burgurne are 100% on the from the right path. Just note, some machines like XPS L322X bios A06/A07 doesn't have the IRRS option when the software is not installed on the OS side. This is same for other Intel services like Smart Connect. After the software is install on OS side the option will appear in Bios end.

Here's some of the steps from Intel's note. Assume you already have a 4Gb or more unallocated space on your SSD drive. For my case, I'd allocated 8192Mb (4Gb physical RAM on my XPS)

Configure Intel Rapid Start Technology in BIOS Setup (Depend on make and bios version)
-Press the F2 key during boot up to enter the Intel® Visual BIOS.
-Click on Advanced Setup, and then click on Power.
-Locate the setting for Intel Rapid Start Technology and click on the check box to enable it.
-Set Hibernation Timer to Immediately.
-Press the F10 key to save settings and restart the system.

Create a Primary Store Partition on the SSD
-In the OS, click the Windows Start button.
-In the Search box, type in cmd.exe.
-Right-click on the cmd tool and select Run as administrator. (optional depend on if you got UAC on or not)
-A command line utility will open. Type in diskpart.exe and press Enter.
-At the diskpart prompt, type the following commands as shown:
DISKPART> list disk
Note: If this is an EFI OS (GPT format disk), then you will see an asterisk under the column GPT
DISKPART> select disk X
(X is the disk number where you want to create the hibernation partition. Refer to results from “list disk” for exact disk number. Disk must be a SSD)
DISKPART> create partition primary size=YYYY
(YYYY is the hibernation partition size in megabytes larger than the amount of memory installed on the system. As an example, for 4 GB of system memory, the value should be 4096 or higher)
DISKPART> detail disk
DISKPART> select Volume Z
(Z is the newly created RAW partition. Refer to results from “detail disk” for exact volume number)
DISKPART> set id=D3BFE2DE-3DAF-11DF-BA40-E3A556D89593
DISKPART>exit

The key here is select Volume and set the ID. After that is done, you MUST restart your computer. After that you should able to install the Intel Rapid Start software.

I did get this to work, same ID, and for my partition size on my laptop I set 4396, as this was the default on the Windows 7 install which shipped with IRST. Perhaps I wasn't restarting the PC after doing diskpart.

Philycheesecake · Mar 12, 2013

kl2999 said:
I got this issue too when I first install a clean windows 8 on my Dell XPS L322X. Then after some search I have found the solution from Intel website.

The steps from Burgurne are 100% on the from the right path. Just note, some machines like XPS L322X bios A06/A07 doesn't have the IRRS option when the software is not installed on the OS side. This is same for other Intel services like Smart Connect. After the software is install on OS side the option will appear in Bios end.

Here's some of the steps from Intel's note. Assume you already have a 4Gb or more unallocated space on your SSD drive. For my case, I'd allocated 8192Mb (4Gb physical RAM on my XPS)

Configure Intel Rapid Start Technology in BIOS Setup (Depend on make and bios version)
-Press the F2 key during boot up to enter the Intel® Visual BIOS.
-Click on Advanced Setup, and then click on Power.
-Locate the setting for Intel Rapid Start Technology and click on the check box to enable it.
-Set Hibernation Timer to Immediately.
-Press the F10 key to save settings and restart the system.

Create a Primary Store Partition on the SSD
-In the OS, click the Windows Start button.
-In the Search box, type in cmd.exe.
-Right-click on the cmd tool and select Run as administrator. (optional depend on if you got UAC on or not)
-A command line utility will open. Type in diskpart.exe and press Enter.
-At the diskpart prompt, type the following commands as shown:
DISKPART> list disk
Note: If this is an EFI OS (GPT format disk), then you will see an asterisk under the column GPT
DISKPART> select disk X
(X is the disk number where you want to create the hibernation partition. Refer to results from “list disk” for exact disk number. Disk must be a SSD)
DISKPART> create partition primary size=YYYY
(YYYY is the hibernation partition size in megabytes larger than the amount of memory installed on the system. As an example, for 4 GB of system memory, the value should be 4096 or higher)
DISKPART> detail disk
DISKPART> select Volume Z
(Z is the newly created RAW partition. Refer to results from “detail disk” for exact volume number)
DISKPART> set id=D3BFE2DE-3DAF-11DF-BA40-E3A556D89593
DISKPART>exit

The key here is select Volume and set the ID. After that is done, you MUST restart your computer. After that you should able to install the Intel Rapid Start software.

@ KL2999 - You say that you have done a clean install of windows 8 on your l322x?

I am currently having trouble with this process. I am trying to create a bootable usb drive to install windows 8 under uEFI but i can not get the laptop to recgonise my usb in the boot menu. My only uEFI options are ‘windows boot manager’ and ‘network boot’ – no USB removable option.

Do you have a guide or info to help me out it would be most appreicated.

TIA

Phil

Belzebutt · Mar 16, 2013

Philycheesecake said:
@ KL2999 - You say that you have done a clean install of windows 8 on your l322x?

I am currently having trouble with this process. I am trying to create a bootable usb drive to install windows 8 under uEFI but i can not get the laptop to recgonise my usb in the boot menu. My only uEFI options are ‘windows boot manager’ and ‘network boot’ – no USB removable option.

Do you have a guide or info to help me out it would be most appreicated.

TIA

Phil

I believe I may have had to disable UEFI in order to boot from USB (also needed to disable the fast boot option and manually bump up the USB boot order on each reboot). If you do need to disable UEFI, just re-enable it on the first reboot.

Philycheesecake · Mar 22, 2013

Belzebutt - I have read this a number of times on other threads but Im not completely sure what Im doing when Im in and around the bios, Im relying on people like yourself to give me the correct instructions.

So I have a couple of questions:

1) if I disable uEFI I get the option to boot from USB only under the 'legacy' boot menu (uEFI menu not longer active). Does this mean that my clean install will be not be a uEFI install?

2) the guys at Dell tried to tell me that I should create a new boot option - named USB and given the file path /efi/boot/bootx64.efi?? I have a feeling they are talking sh!t what do you think?

Thanks again in advance guys, any other adivce/notes/tips are really welcome.

Phil

Belzebutt · Mar 26, 2013

Philycheesecake said:
Belzebutt - I have read this a number of times on other threads but Im not completely sure what Im doing when Im in and around the bios, Im relying on people like yourself to give me the correct instructions.

So I have a couple of questions:

1) if I disable uEFI I get the option to boot from USB only under the 'legacy' boot menu (uEFI menu not longer active). Does this mean that my clean install will be not be a uEFI install?

2) the guys at Dell tried to tell me that I should create a new boot option - named USB and given the file path /efi/boot/bootx64.efi?? I have a feeling they are talking sh!t what do you think?

Thanks again in advance guys, any other adivce/notes/tips are really welcome.

Phil

I don't know what these guys are talking about, but when you install an OS there's basically two boots:
1) You boot with the USB drive and format the target drive and put the OS on it.
2) You then boot the OS from the target drive and it configured itself.

Basically when you boot in 1) you have to have UEFI disabled, but you can enable it between 1) and 2) so the first time your OS boots it will be in UEFI mode. That's what I did.

Haxcid · Mar 27, 2013

What he says is correct. Win8 running with a cache drive using Intels rapid start is insanely fast. It rises from sleep instantly and cold boots, well for the laptop I did, to log in in 4 - 6 seconds. 4 on wall power, 6 on battery. Truely fast. Windows 8 fastboot is ok, my laptop takes about 10 to 12 seconds same with my PC at home.

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