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no licence key on windows 8 laptops

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    no licence key on windows 8 laptops


    so i've noticed that new laptops shipped with windows 8 don't have a licence key, just what appears to be a readable chip or nfc device.

    now a customer was interested in a new laptop with windows 8 and wanted to replace the hdd with an ssd, which at first seemed like an easy task.

    now i'm not entirely sure what on earth to do, hard drives fail a lot from falling or impact damage and with no licence key how does one go about replacing and installing the operating system on one of these computers?

    any info/advice or insight into this would be great.

    thanks all.

    Gazz

    edit: thread now resolved , however there is some great tips and advice and knowledge about the licence key info that is worth reading.

    thanks to everyone.
    Last edited by gazz9496; 02 Nov 2012 at 18:23.

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    information   Information

    We always assume you have made your Recovery Disks using the OEM manufacturer's Recovery Media Creator app the first day you had your new PC.
    & made the Startup Repair CD.
    Recovery Drive - Create with USB Flash Drive in Windows 8




    Did you make the OEM manufacturer's Recovery Disks?



    You can order OEM Recovery disks from your OEM manufacturer's website.
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    no no, sorry i didn't mean the confusion.

    i work in a shop, and aside from the oem discs a customer has no options on how to reinstall the o/s from what i've been able to figure out.

    now making and keeping oem discs are two very different things, so assuming the customer lost the discs and damaged the hard drive, how does one reinstal the operating system without a licence key that should be there?
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    If you haven't already, remove the laptops battery and have a look in there for the COA sticker. I think they started hiding them there because they get worn and unreadable when stuck to the bottom of the laptop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    If you haven't already, remove the laptops battery and have a look in there for the COA sticker. I think they started hiding them there because they get worn and unreadable when stuck to the bottom of the laptop.
    No COA's, key is in the BIOS.
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    will check for that in a sec and update.
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    Oh crap, yes yes, Preinstalled licenses for Windows 8 use the new OA3.0, so I guess no COA sticker. I was thinking Windows 7 for some reason. I forgot what forum I was in for a second there.
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    well there is something in the bios that says key management, no actual visible licence key though.

    so how does that work then?

    does it detect that and apply it when installing windows 8? or do you have to extract the files and decrypt the key?
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    The BIOS contains a hash that tells the Windows 8 installer that it is licensed for a specific version of Windows 8 (Windows 8 or Windows 8 Pro). If you install (or reinstall) that licensed version, it simply "activates" because the hardware is activated for that version of Windows. If you install a version of Windows 8 that the hardware isn't licensed for, it won't activate automatically and you'll have to put in a product key.
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    The BIOS will have a SLIC table that is used for OEM-SLP activation. The big OEM's like Dell etc, add the custom SLIC table to their BIOS. The OEM installed OS looks for the SLIC table and if its found and matches a corresponding certificate file Activation is automatic. If it can't find the correct SLIC table activation fails. OEM-SLP does not activate online. If you create recovery media the OEM-SLP activation will be preserved for the PC its created on. You can't READ the OEM-SLP Product Code from the BIOS. Not without a utility anyway. You can use a utility like the Magical Jelly Bean Key Finder to retrieve it from the installed OS. Its not of any use though because OEM-SLP keys will not activate online. Every DELL model XYZ will have the same OEM-SLP product code and that code is blocked from online activation. That's why those PC's also have a COA sticker on them. If you have to you can install with a regular OEM DVD and use the Product code on the COA sticker. windows 7 uses OA 2.1. Windows 8 uses a new OA 3.0. With OA 3.0 each PC has a unique SLP product code that is embedded in its BIOS. One of the tricks used to pirate Windows was to add a SLIC table to a PC's BIOS so you could fake OEM-SLP activation. OA 3.0 is designed to prevent this and make it harder to pirate Windows. I'm sure there is more to it than that but the rest of it is a bit over my head. I would think there should still be a COA sticker on a Windows 8 machine though. How are you supposed to install the OS without the recovery disks? With OA 3.0 I would think the recovery media would only work on the PC it was created on. It would be unique to that PC not just to that make and model like it is now.
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