I rarely post on forums for the simple reason that most of the time others have already (over)covered the pros, cons, and miscellania that I would comment on, making my posting little more than white noise. Windows 8 discussion is proof of the rule, as just like with 'Intel vs AMD' or 'MS vs Apple' an epic battle appears to be taking place re 'Metro vs Retro'. (Yes, I cannot help but lovingly rename the desktop environment 'Retro' and I'm rather surprised Microsoft hasn't cottoned on to the marketing possibilities of that.)
I could go on ad nauseum about the obvious where WinRT/Metro are concerned; about how Microsoft is seemingly racing others in pushing for an eventual relocation of desktops to the computer equivalent of a retirement village, complete with a dome protecting it from the developing fluffy white cloud cover outside; about the debates over which HID is going to win in the end; about how Metro is just Microsoft applying insane restrictions on content use ala Blizzard (WoW's Lua-to-engine restrictions to combat botting ring a bell, anyone?); hell, even a piece regarding lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, just to cover all of the bases.
No, I'd prefer to open a fresh can of worms, or at least grab a can of something that rarely gets opened because the contents are usually unpalatable. I'm going to be totally cryptic and ask you to remember this: 30 years.
As a hobbyist C++ developer, I'm only a fair coder, but like most coders (and indeed, most self-taught [insert whatever here], I love what I do and therefore tend to notice little things - like bugs - that many people miss. The one thing I have failed to read virtually anything about in all this Win8 cafuffle is this simple fact: despite three decades of apparent experience in software development and the pending release of another 'innovation' in operating systems, Microsoft still has not addressed key bugs that have been prevalent in almost every version of Windows ever released, including the currently circulating previews of the new OS in question.
Two bugs/oversights stand out in my mind; so far as I've seen, Win8 still fails to provide:
1 - The ability to reliably and consistently save all desktop settings (such asbut not limited to the placement of icons) without having to unlog/relog the OS or user account, including any explicit user-selectable option to save the desktop state at will;
2 - The ability to reliably and consistently save all folder settings (such as but not limited to the default display options of files/directories when opening a new Explorer folder view), and for all such options do do exactly as specified in the description (ie: the word 'all' actually means all, not just 'half of' or 'on occasion').
Now I know people are going to read this and think 'OMG, that is so [trivial/petty/redonkulous]', but let's look at the bigger picture here. Both of these petty little 'bugs' have been present in some way or other in almost every major version of Windows since 3.1x; saving the desktop state is still to this day an 'automatic' process, and with no clear user control over saving/reloading that state specifically by user request, a simple display resolution change can trash a carefully-laid-out desktop and throw all icons into the 'Great Clump Of Death' starting from the top-left corner of the screen; thanks very much for having to waste time rearranging it all again, it's been fun.
And I don't know about anyone else, but having to remind Windows every single day that I always want all folders to be displayed in 'Detailed' view regardless of thier contents, with the file size displayed directly after the filename and no pointless 'file type' indicator, got past a joke several versions ago for me, and certain other Win8-based additions to this apparent 'do as MS wants' rule are making me wonder if it's not deliberate. At the very least, it does not inspire my confidence in WinRT/Metro, because if the windows in 'Microsoft House' still don't open and close properly after 30 years (yes, that's it, the magic number I told you to remember earlier), how well are the kids in the sandbox outside the windows going to behave?
Oh, and since Metro actually uses no windows, why is it bundled with - and still effectively called - 'Windows' when clearly it could have been developed side-by-side with Windows as a seperate tablet-geared OS and called... um... 'Tiles' perhaps? That could have opened the marketing door for... let's see... Doors... Furnishings... "[DxDiag] OS: Kitchen Sinks 2025 / SP1 (Automatic Garbage Disposal) / SP2 (Undersink Filtration)." Okay, amusing probably only to people as twisted as myself, but jumping on the bandwagon and creating a 'me-too' OS just to keep up with the competition is not exactly a winning stategy either, nor is it particularly amusing.
"What bigger picture was he on about?" you may (or may not) still be wondering. It'll probably seem like a(nother) strange tangent, but bare with me and look carefully at Window's development over the years: look at WinRT's restrictions on what can and cannot be done in Metro apps; back further to UAC and its underlying model of '"You Can't Touch This!" (MS 'owns' this file/directory/tree/grass - keep off.)'; further still to the beginning of the addition over the years of various Microsoft-only linked file/directory attributes to control the flow and access of data (of which UAC was the eventual result). There are probably a few others that escape my memory at this time, but the upshot should be clear: Microsoft has slowly but surely been gaining control of your device and (in a roundabout way) everything on it, even if that device hasn't even been invented yet. Sure, they are not the only ones, but the methods they have employed over the years do tend to stick out like a hammered thumb.
As far as Microsoft and its products go, ultimately I'm in the camp that says "I'm not a fan...but it could be worse." Some MS products I've used over the years I've loved, some I've hated, and some I'm on the fence with. But there is one thing I must say that I'm fairly confident some people out there agree on, and it's this: An operating system is correctly defined as the primary control and interface codebase that allows the human (the brain) to tell the computer (the brainless) what to do; if my operating system is telling me what I can and can't do with my data on my computer - and is indeed taking full and undeniable control over aspects of the computer's operations without my say-so - then it clearly isn't doing what it is supposed to; it is in fact acting in a manner that is reminiscent of a viral attack, and that kind of behaviour usually results in eventual eradication of said virus from the host - or the death of the host.
At the very least, it means my OS is trying to tell me it's smarter than I am. Not only is that complete [insert favourite expletive noun here], it's downright insulting.
(Disclaimer: All trademarks are owned by thier respective owners and are used without permission because contacting said owners to garner it would just take too damn long. The views, opinions and attempts at humorous discourse are solely that of the author and its associated peripherals and are in no way affiliated with any of the other parties denoted in this post, neither express, implied nor otherwise; in fact, said author reserves the right to claim it was never here in the first place.)
I could go on ad nauseum about the obvious where WinRT/Metro are concerned; about how Microsoft is seemingly racing others in pushing for an eventual relocation of desktops to the computer equivalent of a retirement village, complete with a dome protecting it from the developing fluffy white cloud cover outside; about the debates over which HID is going to win in the end; about how Metro is just Microsoft applying insane restrictions on content use ala Blizzard (WoW's Lua-to-engine restrictions to combat botting ring a bell, anyone?); hell, even a piece regarding lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, just to cover all of the bases.
No, I'd prefer to open a fresh can of worms, or at least grab a can of something that rarely gets opened because the contents are usually unpalatable. I'm going to be totally cryptic and ask you to remember this: 30 years.
As a hobbyist C++ developer, I'm only a fair coder, but like most coders (and indeed, most self-taught [insert whatever here], I love what I do and therefore tend to notice little things - like bugs - that many people miss. The one thing I have failed to read virtually anything about in all this Win8 cafuffle is this simple fact: despite three decades of apparent experience in software development and the pending release of another 'innovation' in operating systems, Microsoft still has not addressed key bugs that have been prevalent in almost every version of Windows ever released, including the currently circulating previews of the new OS in question.
Two bugs/oversights stand out in my mind; so far as I've seen, Win8 still fails to provide:
1 - The ability to reliably and consistently save all desktop settings (such asbut not limited to the placement of icons) without having to unlog/relog the OS or user account, including any explicit user-selectable option to save the desktop state at will;
2 - The ability to reliably and consistently save all folder settings (such as but not limited to the default display options of files/directories when opening a new Explorer folder view), and for all such options do do exactly as specified in the description (ie: the word 'all' actually means all, not just 'half of' or 'on occasion').
Now I know people are going to read this and think 'OMG, that is so [trivial/petty/redonkulous]', but let's look at the bigger picture here. Both of these petty little 'bugs' have been present in some way or other in almost every major version of Windows since 3.1x; saving the desktop state is still to this day an 'automatic' process, and with no clear user control over saving/reloading that state specifically by user request, a simple display resolution change can trash a carefully-laid-out desktop and throw all icons into the 'Great Clump Of Death' starting from the top-left corner of the screen; thanks very much for having to waste time rearranging it all again, it's been fun.
And I don't know about anyone else, but having to remind Windows every single day that I always want all folders to be displayed in 'Detailed' view regardless of thier contents, with the file size displayed directly after the filename and no pointless 'file type' indicator, got past a joke several versions ago for me, and certain other Win8-based additions to this apparent 'do as MS wants' rule are making me wonder if it's not deliberate. At the very least, it does not inspire my confidence in WinRT/Metro, because if the windows in 'Microsoft House' still don't open and close properly after 30 years (yes, that's it, the magic number I told you to remember earlier), how well are the kids in the sandbox outside the windows going to behave?
Oh, and since Metro actually uses no windows, why is it bundled with - and still effectively called - 'Windows' when clearly it could have been developed side-by-side with Windows as a seperate tablet-geared OS and called... um... 'Tiles' perhaps? That could have opened the marketing door for... let's see... Doors... Furnishings... "[DxDiag] OS: Kitchen Sinks 2025 / SP1 (Automatic Garbage Disposal) / SP2 (Undersink Filtration)." Okay, amusing probably only to people as twisted as myself, but jumping on the bandwagon and creating a 'me-too' OS just to keep up with the competition is not exactly a winning stategy either, nor is it particularly amusing.
"What bigger picture was he on about?" you may (or may not) still be wondering. It'll probably seem like a(nother) strange tangent, but bare with me and look carefully at Window's development over the years: look at WinRT's restrictions on what can and cannot be done in Metro apps; back further to UAC and its underlying model of '"You Can't Touch This!" (MS 'owns' this file/directory/tree/grass - keep off.)'; further still to the beginning of the addition over the years of various Microsoft-only linked file/directory attributes to control the flow and access of data (of which UAC was the eventual result). There are probably a few others that escape my memory at this time, but the upshot should be clear: Microsoft has slowly but surely been gaining control of your device and (in a roundabout way) everything on it, even if that device hasn't even been invented yet. Sure, they are not the only ones, but the methods they have employed over the years do tend to stick out like a hammered thumb.
As far as Microsoft and its products go, ultimately I'm in the camp that says "I'm not a fan...but it could be worse." Some MS products I've used over the years I've loved, some I've hated, and some I'm on the fence with. But there is one thing I must say that I'm fairly confident some people out there agree on, and it's this: An operating system is correctly defined as the primary control and interface codebase that allows the human (the brain) to tell the computer (the brainless) what to do; if my operating system is telling me what I can and can't do with my data on my computer - and is indeed taking full and undeniable control over aspects of the computer's operations without my say-so - then it clearly isn't doing what it is supposed to; it is in fact acting in a manner that is reminiscent of a viral attack, and that kind of behaviour usually results in eventual eradication of said virus from the host - or the death of the host.
At the very least, it means my OS is trying to tell me it's smarter than I am. Not only is that complete [insert favourite expletive noun here], it's downright insulting.
(Disclaimer: All trademarks are owned by thier respective owners and are used without permission because contacting said owners to garner it would just take too damn long. The views, opinions and attempts at humorous discourse are solely that of the author and its associated peripherals and are in no way affiliated with any of the other parties denoted in this post, neither express, implied nor otherwise; in fact, said author reserves the right to claim it was never here in the first place.)
My Computer
System One
-
- OS
- Windows 8 CP 64
- System Manufacturer/Model
- Custom build
- CPU
- Intel Core2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz
- Motherboard
- Asus PSN-T5 Deluxe
- Memory
- Kingston 8Gb DDR2 1600
- Graphics Card(s)
- nVidia GeForce 9600GT x2
- Sound Card
- Creative SB X-Fi Fatal1ty
- Monitor(s) Displays
- ViewSonic VX22040W 22" WSLCD
- Screen Resolution
- 1680 x 1050 (native)
- Hard Drives
- Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1Tb
Western Digital WD7500AADS 750Gb
Samsung HD501LJ 500Gb
Samsung HD403LJ 400Gb
- PSU
- ThermalTake Toughpower Q-Fan 750W
- Case
- Soprano Medium Tower
- Cooling
- Stock Intel CPU F/HS
- Keyboard
- Logitech G15 V2
- Mouse
- SteelSeries WoW MMO Gaming
- Internet Speed
- Broadband Cable 10Mbps
- Other Info
- Originally built circa 2007 as combo C++/OpenGL development and mid-level gaming system, aging well with only HDD alterations. Planning next (now long overdue) rebuild, hardware recommendations welcome.