Solved Converting GPT to MBR on Surface 3 Pro

churin

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How can I convert GPT to MBR on Surface3 Pro? The machine comes with one 512GB SSD. There are three partitions or 1)"Windows RE Tools", 2) EFI system and 3)System. I am thinking of re-partitoning the drive using a third party utility to create a MBR system and restoring the backup onto the MBR partition. I want to restore only the system and not the "Windows RE Toos".
I am wondering if the backup taken from the GPT can be restored to a newly created MBR partition.
 

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How can I convert GPT to MBR on Surface3 Pro?

That's a bad idea, because Secure Boot only works in UEFI boot mode.

Secure Boot protect users from rootkits and other low-level malware attacks by blocking unauthorized (non-signed) executables and drivers from being loaded during the boot process.

I am wondering if the backup taken from the GPT can be restored to a newly created MBR partition.

Windows no longer starts.

Here is info about UEFI Boot Mode (installing using the GPT partition style) and Legacy BIOS Boot Mode (installing using the MBR partition style): link
 

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The RE tools is your recovery environment. you NEED it. Read here.
 

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genet:
Your reply indicates that if the GPT is converted to MBR I have to clean install the W8.1 but the Windows RE and the security features of UFEI are lost.
Cliff S:
I reviewed the linked reference. I could create a bootable USB flash drive to launch Windows RE. I wonder if this is compatible with MBR.

I am now convinced that converting GPT to MBR is not a good idea. What I want to do now with the drive is to resize the system partition to create a data partition. I assume that for GPT there is no limit of numbers of partitions which is not the case with MBR.
 

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    Gigabyte X570 AORUS Ultra 1.1/1.2 BIOS v.F32
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    16GBx2 DDR4 3600 G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series
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    Dell UP2720Q
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    3840 x 2160
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    1TB SATA SSD(OS) SSung 870 EVO, 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD(OS) SSung 970 EVO Plus, 4TB SATA SSD(Data)
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    Corsair RM650 650W
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    Microsoft Defender
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    ICY DOCK M.2 NVMe Mobile Rack for External 3.5" Bay - MB834M2K-B
With MBR you can't use UEFI. But! If you have a Windows 8 install media for reinstalls AND a system imager(which you would probably use rather than a reinstall) like Macrium Reflect, you should be good to go, just like it was done with Windows 7. Just after you install 8 and have all your programs installed and everything set up like you want create your first image as a base(or last chance) and then make an image at least once a month and/or before major system changes/updates.

You'll also lose safe boot(checks for rootkits and unsigned software) and fast boot(that you're using an SSD no real loss there;)) without UEFI.

Converting and moving partitions can cause more problems and take more time then its worth. Just sync your settings and account on OneDrive back up your libraries, then go to BIOS and turn UEFI off and reinstall using custom and delete all the old partitions, either let windows do the partitioning or you can change them your self.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Update Pro in Hyper-V/Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Cliff's Black & Blue Wonder
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD
    E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
    D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD
    G: System Images -> HDD Seagate Barracuda 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    hanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 3 Corsair blue LED fans
    Keyboard
    Trust GTX THURA
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
    Browser
    Edge; Chrome; IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as a
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZ!Box 7590 AX V2
    Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar
    Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR
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