Why can't I edit mp3 tags in Explorer Properties?

JohnnyGui

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Hey all,

Usually, I am able to edit the tags shown on the Details tab in the Properties dialog of an mp3 file like shown here:
EditMP3.jpg

Now, I'm not able to do this anymore for any mp3 file. When hovering over the tags the cursor doesn't change into a typing cursor. The read-only checkbox for every mp3 file is disabled. However, the folders that contain the concerning mp3 files are checked as read-only but it doesn't save the change when I uncheck that.

How can I fix this without downloading any third-party software? This used to work shortly after I installed Windows 8.1 x64.
I use WMP for playing the files.
 

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    Windows 8.1 (Update 1) Pro 64 bit
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If you didn't install any software that would set itself as default for .mp3 then I would suspect a Windows Update. If that is so I have no idea which one. I stuck with Windows 8.0. :)

Edit: Just out of curiosity I opened the details page of an .mp3 and I could edit it just as you specified.
 

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    Windows 8.0 x64
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    Toshiba Satelite C55D-A Laptop
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I just tried it on my 8.1 system and I am unable to do it. I was not aware of this until now.
 

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    Windows 8.1
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    Intel Haswell i5 4690
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    Asus Z97-A
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    2 x 8gb HyperX, by Kingston
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    Outboard USB DAC
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    Samsung S24D360
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    Internet Explorer 11
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    Windows Defender
Of course I must be perfectly honest and say that I have never tried this in Windows 7 or Windows 8. I have about 70,000 songs on my computer, but only 8 of them are MP3s.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
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    PC/Desktop
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    Custom
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    Intel Haswell i5 4690
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    Asus Z97-A
    Memory
    2 x 8gb HyperX, by Kingston
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    None yet
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    Outboard USB DAC
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    Samsung S24D360
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    1920x1080
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@Johnny
I just found this at MajorGeeks: AudioShell 2 is a freeware MS Windows Explorer shell extension plugin which allows you to view and edit music files id3 tag directly in Windows Explorer. AudioShell supports MP3 (all ID3v2 tag versions), WMA, ASF, WMV, Apple iTunes AAC (M4A and M4P), MP4, OGG, FLAC (vorbis comment tags), MPC, MP+, monkey's audio, WAV pack, optim frog (APE and APEv2 tags) and DSF. AudioShell features include full Unicode, Windows Vista/7/8 and 32/64 bit support.
 

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I just clicked on Title & other properties too & moved the cursor to the right until a textarea appeared.

screenshot_252.jpg
 

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    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center
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My Computer

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    Windows 8.1
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    Custom
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    Intel Haswell i5 4690
    Motherboard
    Asus Z97-A
    Memory
    2 x 8gb HyperX, by Kingston
    Graphics Card(s)
    None yet
    Sound Card
    Outboard USB DAC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24D360
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    1920x1080
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    Internet Explorer 11
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    Windows Defender
Do all your editing from within WMP.

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    Windows 7 Home Premium
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    HP Pavillion
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    Tablet - Windows 10 Home
I have 8.1 Pro WMC.
Maybe that's why it works for me.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Gateway
    CPU
    AMD K140 Cores 2 Threads 2 Name AMD K140 Package Socket FT1 BGA Technology 40nm
    Motherboard
    Manufacturer Gateway Model SX2110G (P0)
    Memory
    Type DDR3 Size 8192 MBytes DRAM Frequency 532.3 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Audio USB Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Name 1950W on AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x76
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    Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x768 pixels
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    AMD K140
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    Package Socket FT1 BGA
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I have 8.1 Pro WMC.
Maybe that's why it works for me.

I have Windows Pro 8.1 WMC as well and it didn't work for me either.

@Rocky: Perhaps you can test this on your mp3's?

@Cliff S and @Edwin: I thank you for the workarounds but the thing that's bothering me is why it doesn't work through the Explorer Properties. I should be able to edit these tags on there.

I recall that it works for a while each time I reinstall Windows 8.1 but then stops without knowing what the exact reason is. Why is this happening?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 (Update 1) Pro 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel i5 3570K
    Motherboard
    Asrock Pro4 Z77
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce GTX 660Ti
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi HDS921010DLE630
Click on the dialog when it appears on mouse hover, it should place the cursor.

000027.png
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 7 Home Premium
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion
  • PC2
    Tablet - Windows 10 Home
I made a video.
View it full screen.

[video=youtube;KK1vRxGXlVU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KK1vRxGXlVU[/video]
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Gateway
    CPU
    AMD K140 Cores 2 Threads 2 Name AMD K140 Package Socket FT1 BGA Technology 40nm
    Motherboard
    Manufacturer Gateway Model SX2110G (P0)
    Memory
    Type DDR3 Size 8192 MBytes DRAM Frequency 532.3 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Audio USB Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Name 1950W on AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x76
    Screen Resolution
    Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x768 pixels
    Hard Drives
    AMD K140
    Cores 2
    Threads 2
    Name AMD K140
    Package Socket FT1 BGA
    Technology 40nm
    Specification AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon HD Graphics
    Family F
    Extended Family 14
    Model 2
    Extended Model 2
    Stepping 0
    Revision ON-C0
    Instruction
    Browser
    Opera 24.0
    Antivirus
    Avast Internet Security
Click on the dialog when it appears on mouse hover, it should place the cursor.

View attachment 59410

That's my problem, it just wouldn't place the cursor. It stays like a pointer no matter how many times I click on a tag.
Question: What is the exact path of your music files? (is it in the Music Library or through C:/Users/username/Music)
Also, do you have any codecs installed?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 (Update 1) Pro 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel i5 3570K
    Motherboard
    Asrock Pro4 Z77
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce GTX 660Ti
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi HDS921010DLE630
If it works right after install and goes away later my money is on an update killing it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.0 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba Satelite C55D-A Laptop
    CPU
    AMD EI 1200
    Memory
    4 gb DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Raedon 340 MB dedicated Ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Built in
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    640 GB (spinner) Sata II
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Touch pad
I made a video.
View it full screen.

[video=youtube;KK1vRxGXlVU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KK1vRxGXlVU[/video]

Still not working, it wouldn't change in a typing cursor.

I'm starting to think it has something to do with the checked Read-only option in Properties of the folder that contains the mp3's. It just wouldn't save the change if I uncheck that. Even if I create a new folder it automatically enables that option.

Could someone who's able to edit the tags please take a screenshot of the General tab of the Properties dialog of the folder that contains the mp3's?
Folder Read-only.jpg
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 (Update 1) Pro 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel i5 3570K
    Motherboard
    Asrock Pro4 Z77
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce GTX 660Ti
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi HDS921010DLE630
I have 8.1 Pro WMC.
Maybe that's why it works for me.

I have Windows Pro 8.1 WMC as well and it didn't work for me either.

@Rocky: Perhaps you can test this on your mp3's?

@Cliff S and @Edwin: I thank you for the workarounds but the thing that's bothering me is why it doesn't work through the Explorer Properties. I should be able to edit these tags on there.

I recall that it works for a while each time I reinstall Windows 8.1 but then stops without knowing what the exact reason is. Why is this happening?



This option seemed to work fine for me when I tried it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel Haswell i5 4690
    Motherboard
    Asus Z97-A
    Memory
    2 x 8gb HyperX, by Kingston
    Graphics Card(s)
    None yet
    Sound Card
    Outboard USB DAC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24D360
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I made a video.
View it full screen.

[video=youtube;KK1vRxGXlVU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KK1vRxGXlVU[/video]



This is not working in Windows 8.1 regular, although it might work for you in Windows 8.1 Pro.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel Haswell i5 4690
    Motherboard
    Asus Z97-A
    Memory
    2 x 8gb HyperX, by Kingston
    Graphics Card(s)
    None yet
    Sound Card
    Outboard USB DAC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24D360
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Try looking in the Security Tab. Mine are set to let all listed users have full control. My read-only is not checked.

If that's not it the only other clue might be yours is not English Language Windows. Sometimes, especially in Explorer code, old code is hard wired to use ASCII.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.0 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba Satelite C55D-A Laptop
    CPU
    AMD EI 1200
    Memory
    4 gb DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Raedon 340 MB dedicated Ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Built in
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    640 GB (spinner) Sata II
    Keyboard
    Built in
    Mouse
    Touch pad
Try looking in the Security Tab. Mine are set to let all listed users have full control. My read-only is not checked.

If that's not it the only other clue might be yours is not English Language Windows. Sometimes, especially in Explorer code, old code is hard wired to use ASCII.

All the users have full control as well here and I'm the Administrator. If it's because of my language, why is it that it worked in the first place?
Could you perhaps see in your case if the Read-only box is checked for the folder that contains the mp3's? The checkbox says that the Read-only only applies to files in the folder.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 (Update 1) Pro 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel i5 3570K
    Motherboard
    Asrock Pro4 Z77
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce GTX 660Ti
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi HDS921010DLE630

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Gateway
    CPU
    AMD K140 Cores 2 Threads 2 Name AMD K140 Package Socket FT1 BGA Technology 40nm
    Motherboard
    Manufacturer Gateway Model SX2110G (P0)
    Memory
    Type DDR3 Size 8192 MBytes DRAM Frequency 532.3 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Audio USB Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Name 1950W on AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x76
    Screen Resolution
    Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x768 pixels
    Hard Drives
    AMD K140
    Cores 2
    Threads 2
    Name AMD K140
    Package Socket FT1 BGA
    Technology 40nm
    Specification AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon HD Graphics
    Family F
    Extended Family 14
    Model 2
    Extended Model 2
    Stepping 0
    Revision ON-C0
    Instruction
    Browser
    Opera 24.0
    Antivirus
    Avast Internet Security
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