very slow start up on windows 8.1 with SSD

jamie87

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i have done a clean reinstall. i use a samsung 840 pro with a 1.5tb seagate 5900rpm driver. the windows 8.1 logo takes 15+ seconds to boot up past post! also takes 20 + seconds to shut down.,..

my specs are

windows 8.1
build 6.3.96000
x64-based pc
intel core i5-2500k @ 3.30GHz,3401 Mhz, 4 Core ,

im not very technical but any help would be great
thank you
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    windows 8.1 pro
Hello,

I'll give it a shot. It could be many things, and it is VERY hard to tell without it being in front of me, and without knowing exactly what you have installed, but maybe check these five simple solutions (and two complex solutions), which have caused the same issue(s) for me, and clients of mine, in the past, before diving into more complex/technical possibilities:


  • Is there a CD in the drive? Take it out & try the restart test.
  • Is there a USB Flash Drive plugged in? Again, take it out, and try the restart test.
  • Unplug ALL external devices. For example: Printers, drives, gadgets, and phones. Restart to test.
  • Check the Antivirus. Try disabling it, then doing a shut-off/turn-on. Don't forget to turn it back on!
    • This is just to see if it has anything to do with the cause, and if it does, then we can get into configuration options.
    • When disabling, choose "Permanent", only to make sure it stays disabled throughout the restart process. Then enable it again after testing.
  • Start-up programs.
    • Open the Start Up Programs dialog:
      • On your keyboard, press WINDOWS+R for the RUN window.
      • Type taskmgr and click OK or press ENTER on your keyboard.
    • -or-
      • Press CTRL-ALT-DEL simultaneously on your keyboard.
      • Click TASK MANAGER.
    • Click the Start-Up tab at the top of the dialog that just popped up.
    • Then highlight highlight each entry, and click DISABLE (keep note of which you disable so you can re-ENABLE them, if necessary).
    • Restart to check.
    • If it fixed it, re-ENABLE each one, and restart after each, to find out which Start-Up Program caused the issue.
  • Services. Only attempt this if you know what you are doing!
    • This can get really complex, too complex to even type here, but if it comes to this point, post a reply, and we can take it from there. Part of the troubleshooting will require a list of your currently installed & running services.
  • BIOS Settings. Only attempt this if you know what you are doing!
    • ​Again, this will have to be done as a separate conversation, and will require your BIOS software info & exact version.

Try those first, and see what happens...

Enjoy,

-WW
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Dual-Boot Windows 8 (upgrading to 8.1 soon) & Kali Linux (formerly Backtrack)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba Qosmio G55-Q804
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo
    Motherboard
    PQG55U-03103DB
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18.4" Laptop & External LG FLATIRON W2452T 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 945 (Internal) & 1920 x 1200 (External LG Monitor)
    Hard Drives
    500 GB Internal (manually upgraded from 320 GB) & 500 GB External SimpleTech Signature Drive "Designed by Pininfarina" (orignally 250 GB, manually upgraded to 500 GB)
    PSU
    Built-in - power adapter says 120 Watt output
    Case
    HUGE
    Cooling
    Multiple internal fans, processor & graphics card
    Keyboard
    Built in & External Logtech K750 Solar / Wireless
    Mouse
    STAPLES B250 Wireless Optical
    Internet Speed
    Whatever Aircrack-ng provides, LOL!
    Browser
    80% Chrome & 19% Firefox & 1% Internet Explorer (still on v10, haven't used it enough to update yet)
    Antivirus
    Don't use them usually, slow me down; just Windows Built-In.
    Other Info
    Icons, files, assets, software, et cetera, are always well organized - unlike my life, LOL!
Last option 'Start up Programs' was the one that slowed mine. I disabled everything in the start up - didn't need any of them for me.
Used a program called "Autoruns for Windows" following suggestions from adamf ('Guru' member) - unchecked the Logon programs from there :)

EDIT: www.eightforums.com/showthread.php?p=424659
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Update x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 15
    CPU
    Haswell Core i5 4200U
    Memory
    8GB Dual-Channel DDR3L @1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 4400 Integrated; 2GB Dedicated NVIDIA GT 740M
    Hard Drives
    500GB Samsung 840 EVO Internal SSD ;
    2TB WD MyPassport Ultra EHDD ;
    1TB TOSHIBA HDD
    Cooling
    Deepcool X6
    Mouse
    Logitech B175 Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    10 Mbps
    Browser
    Opera v25.0
    Antivirus
    KIS 2014
    Other Info
    Microsoft Wired Xbox 360 Controller
ok ive unplugged everythihng only my keyboard and mouse are in now. ive also disabled all startup items. the boot time is still the same takes 20+seconds at windows load screen (prior to entering desktop)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1 pro

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Dual-Boot Windows 8 (upgrading to 8.1 soon) & Kali Linux (formerly Backtrack)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba Qosmio G55-Q804
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo
    Motherboard
    PQG55U-03103DB
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18.4" Laptop & External LG FLATIRON W2452T 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 945 (Internal) & 1920 x 1200 (External LG Monitor)
    Hard Drives
    500 GB Internal (manually upgraded from 320 GB) & 500 GB External SimpleTech Signature Drive "Designed by Pininfarina" (orignally 250 GB, manually upgraded to 500 GB)
    PSU
    Built-in - power adapter says 120 Watt output
    Case
    HUGE
    Cooling
    Multiple internal fans, processor & graphics card
    Keyboard
    Built in & External Logtech K750 Solar / Wireless
    Mouse
    STAPLES B250 Wireless Optical
    Internet Speed
    Whatever Aircrack-ng provides, LOL!
    Browser
    80% Chrome & 19% Firefox & 1% Internet Explorer (still on v10, haven't used it enough to update yet)
    Antivirus
    Don't use them usually, slow me down; just Windows Built-In.
    Other Info
    Icons, files, assets, software, et cetera, are always well organized - unlike my life, LOL!
i also unplugged my HD, the boot times were so much faster?

I edited my original post to include services & BIOS - have you done anything there?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Dual-Boot Windows 8 (upgrading to 8.1 soon) & Kali Linux (formerly Backtrack)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba Qosmio G55-Q804
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo
    Motherboard
    PQG55U-03103DB
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18.4" Laptop & External LG FLATIRON W2452T 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 945 (Internal) & 1920 x 1200 (External LG Monitor)
    Hard Drives
    500 GB Internal (manually upgraded from 320 GB) & 500 GB External SimpleTech Signature Drive "Designed by Pininfarina" (orignally 250 GB, manually upgraded to 500 GB)
    PSU
    Built-in - power adapter says 120 Watt output
    Case
    HUGE
    Cooling
    Multiple internal fans, processor & graphics card
    Keyboard
    Built in & External Logtech K750 Solar / Wireless
    Mouse
    STAPLES B250 Wireless Optical
    Internet Speed
    Whatever Aircrack-ng provides, LOL!
    Browser
    80% Chrome & 19% Firefox & 1% Internet Explorer (still on v10, haven't used it enough to update yet)
    Antivirus
    Don't use them usually, slow me down; just Windows Built-In.
    Other Info
    Icons, files, assets, software, et cetera, are always well organized - unlike my life, LOL!
i also unplugged my HD, the boot times were so much faster?

unplugged the hd it seemed to work/boot faster, problem is i got all my data on my HD

I understand - it was just to pinpoint your problem. Now we need to find a solution. What is the model/specs of that drive?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Dual-Boot Windows 8 (upgrading to 8.1 soon) & Kali Linux (formerly Backtrack)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba Qosmio G55-Q804
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo
    Motherboard
    PQG55U-03103DB
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18.4" Laptop & External LG FLATIRON W2452T 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 945 (Internal) & 1920 x 1200 (External LG Monitor)
    Hard Drives
    500 GB Internal (manually upgraded from 320 GB) & 500 GB External SimpleTech Signature Drive "Designed by Pininfarina" (orignally 250 GB, manually upgraded to 500 GB)
    PSU
    Built-in - power adapter says 120 Watt output
    Case
    HUGE
    Cooling
    Multiple internal fans, processor & graphics card
    Keyboard
    Built in & External Logtech K750 Solar / Wireless
    Mouse
    STAPLES B250 Wireless Optical
    Internet Speed
    Whatever Aircrack-ng provides, LOL!
    Browser
    80% Chrome & 19% Firefox & 1% Internet Explorer (still on v10, haven't used it enough to update yet)
    Antivirus
    Don't use them usually, slow me down; just Windows Built-In.
    Other Info
    Icons, files, assets, software, et cetera, are always well organized - unlike my life, LOL!
[h=1]Seagate Barracuda Green 1.5TB 5900RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Hard Drive ST1500DL003- Bare Drive[/h]
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1 pro
i also unplugged my HD, the boot times were so much faster?

unplugged the hd it seemed to work/boot faster, problem is i got all my data on my HD

If it's the drive, try this before we continue:


  • Plug the drive back in & make note of the drive letter, ex: E:
  • Press WINDOWS+R on your keyboard.
  • Type cmd and click OK or press ENTER.
  • Type chkdsk <drive letter> /r and press ENTER.
    • Ex: chkdsk E: /r
  • Let it do a check/repair of the drive. This MAY solve it right there.

-WW
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Dual-Boot Windows 8 (upgrading to 8.1 soon) & Kali Linux (formerly Backtrack)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba Qosmio G55-Q804
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo
    Motherboard
    PQG55U-03103DB
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18.4" Laptop & External LG FLATIRON W2452T 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 945 (Internal) & 1920 x 1200 (External LG Monitor)
    Hard Drives
    500 GB Internal (manually upgraded from 320 GB) & 500 GB External SimpleTech Signature Drive "Designed by Pininfarina" (orignally 250 GB, manually upgraded to 500 GB)
    PSU
    Built-in - power adapter says 120 Watt output
    Case
    HUGE
    Cooling
    Multiple internal fans, processor & graphics card
    Keyboard
    Built in & External Logtech K750 Solar / Wireless
    Mouse
    STAPLES B250 Wireless Optical
    Internet Speed
    Whatever Aircrack-ng provides, LOL!
    Browser
    80% Chrome & 19% Firefox & 1% Internet Explorer (still on v10, haven't used it enough to update yet)
    Antivirus
    Don't use them usually, slow me down; just Windows Built-In.
    Other Info
    Icons, files, assets, software, et cetera, are always well organized - unlike my life, LOL!
And after that is done (or before, if you haven't started it yet), try disabling Windows Indexing, as another test - where we will find a permanent solution depending on the results of this test.


  • Open the Control Panel, make sure drop-down at top-right is set to Category view.
  • Select "System and Security".
  • In the pop-up window, select "Administrative Tools".
  • Select "Services".
  • Select "Windows Search Service" and set to DISABLED.


-WW
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Dual-Boot Windows 8 (upgrading to 8.1 soon) & Kali Linux (formerly Backtrack)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba Qosmio G55-Q804
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo
    Motherboard
    PQG55U-03103DB
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18.4" Laptop & External LG FLATIRON W2452T 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 945 (Internal) & 1920 x 1200 (External LG Monitor)
    Hard Drives
    500 GB Internal (manually upgraded from 320 GB) & 500 GB External SimpleTech Signature Drive "Designed by Pininfarina" (orignally 250 GB, manually upgraded to 500 GB)
    PSU
    Built-in - power adapter says 120 Watt output
    Case
    HUGE
    Cooling
    Multiple internal fans, processor & graphics card
    Keyboard
    Built in & External Logtech K750 Solar / Wireless
    Mouse
    STAPLES B250 Wireless Optical
    Internet Speed
    Whatever Aircrack-ng provides, LOL!
    Browser
    80% Chrome & 19% Firefox & 1% Internet Explorer (still on v10, haven't used it enough to update yet)
    Antivirus
    Don't use them usually, slow me down; just Windows Built-In.
    Other Info
    Icons, files, assets, software, et cetera, are always well organized - unlike my life, LOL!

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1 pro
should i just reformatt without the HD connected? any other suggestions? please

That won't help, don't waste your time. Try my last 2 suggestions first.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Dual-Boot Windows 8 (upgrading to 8.1 soon) & Kali Linux (formerly Backtrack)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba Qosmio G55-Q804
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo
    Motherboard
    PQG55U-03103DB
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18.4" Laptop & External LG FLATIRON W2452T 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 945 (Internal) & 1920 x 1200 (External LG Monitor)
    Hard Drives
    500 GB Internal (manually upgraded from 320 GB) & 500 GB External SimpleTech Signature Drive "Designed by Pininfarina" (orignally 250 GB, manually upgraded to 500 GB)
    PSU
    Built-in - power adapter says 120 Watt output
    Case
    HUGE
    Cooling
    Multiple internal fans, processor & graphics card
    Keyboard
    Built in & External Logtech K750 Solar / Wireless
    Mouse
    STAPLES B250 Wireless Optical
    Internet Speed
    Whatever Aircrack-ng provides, LOL!
    Browser
    80% Chrome & 19% Firefox & 1% Internet Explorer (still on v10, haven't used it enough to update yet)
    Antivirus
    Don't use them usually, slow me down; just Windows Built-In.
    Other Info
    Icons, files, assets, software, et cetera, are always well organized - unlike my life, LOL!
should i just reformatt without the HD connected? any other suggestions? please

Since you replied to such an early reply of mine, something tells me you didn't see that the thread is now on page 2. They really should show more replies per-page by default on here. Just a suggestion, for moments like this. It even took me a few seconds to realize it...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Dual-Boot Windows 8 (upgrading to 8.1 soon) & Kali Linux (formerly Backtrack)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba Qosmio G55-Q804
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Duo
    Motherboard
    PQG55U-03103DB
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18.4" Laptop & External LG FLATIRON W2452T 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1680 x 945 (Internal) & 1920 x 1200 (External LG Monitor)
    Hard Drives
    500 GB Internal (manually upgraded from 320 GB) & 500 GB External SimpleTech Signature Drive "Designed by Pininfarina" (orignally 250 GB, manually upgraded to 500 GB)
    PSU
    Built-in - power adapter says 120 Watt output
    Case
    HUGE
    Cooling
    Multiple internal fans, processor & graphics card
    Keyboard
    Built in & External Logtech K750 Solar / Wireless
    Mouse
    STAPLES B250 Wireless Optical
    Internet Speed
    Whatever Aircrack-ng provides, LOL!
    Browser
    80% Chrome & 19% Firefox & 1% Internet Explorer (still on v10, haven't used it enough to update yet)
    Antivirus
    Don't use them usually, slow me down; just Windows Built-In.
    Other Info
    Icons, files, assets, software, et cetera, are always well organized - unlike my life, LOL!
i also unplugged my HD, the boot times were so much faster?

unplugged the hd it seemed to work/boot faster, problem is i got all my data on my HD

If it's the drive, try this before we continue:


  • Plug the drive back in & make note of the drive letter, ex: E:
  • Press WINDOWS+R on your keyboard.
  • Type cmd and click OK or press ENTER.
  • Type chkdsk <drive letter> /r and press ENTER.
    • Ex: chkdsk E: /r
  • Let it do a check/repair of the drive. This MAY solve it right there.

-WW

completed this got 0 bad sectors on my disk
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1 pro
The subject of the first port said you had an samsung 840 pro ssd. Some of the samsung 840's have a firmware issue - they slow down after a month or so. There is a patch for it and it's discussed somewhere else on this forum - I had this issue myself and the patch fixed it - boot up times returned to being superfast (on windows 7).
Not totally sure that's right for your because you refer to a different hard drive as well.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
The subject of the first port said you had an samsung 840 pro ssd. Some of the samsung 840's have a firmware issue - they slow down after a month or so. There is a patch for it and it's discussed somewhere else on this forum - I had this issue myself and the patch fixed it - boot up times returned to being superfast (on windows 7).
Not totally sure that's right for your because you refer to a different hard drive as well.

I think Samsung had released the patch for Samsung 840 Evo sometime before. No other flagship models are affected it seems.
Samsung 840 Evo slow read/write speed - Firmware patch
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Update x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 15
    CPU
    Haswell Core i5 4200U
    Memory
    8GB Dual-Channel DDR3L @1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 4400 Integrated; 2GB Dedicated NVIDIA GT 740M
    Hard Drives
    500GB Samsung 840 EVO Internal SSD ;
    2TB WD MyPassport Ultra EHDD ;
    1TB TOSHIBA HDD
    Cooling
    Deepcool X6
    Mouse
    Logitech B175 Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    10 Mbps
    Browser
    Opera v25.0
    Antivirus
    KIS 2014
    Other Info
    Microsoft Wired Xbox 360 Controller
The subject of the first port said you had an
samsung 840 pro ssd. Some of the samsung 840's have a firmware issue - they slow down after a month or so. There is a patch for it and it's discussed somewhere else on this forum - I had this issue myself and the patch fixed it - boot up times returned to being superfast (on windows 7).
Not totally sure that's right for your because you refer to a different hard drive as well.


I think Samsung had released the patch for Samsung 840 Evo sometime before. No other flagship models are affected it seems.
Samsung 840 Evo slow read/write speed - Firmware patch


ah ok mines an 840 pro
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1 pro
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