Forget it... This business won't be going "Metro"

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After several weeks with this Windows 8 I quit. Even with the tips to bypass and alter Metro and even with the very slight boot increase, I truly see no benefit to upgrading to the RTM version after seeing and experiencing what I have, nor do I envision any business adopting this OS.

This reminds me of how hard it was to take the leap from XP to Vista, except instead of going to a more advanced "looking" system I'm going for a kindergarten variety.

Microsoft…. Windows 8 at this point is an Epic Fail. When you come out with a non-Metro version that is more refined I will give it another shot but as of now this is just not for me or my business.

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I believe the key to success/fail would be the "reason to upgrade" because that's where a majority of the sales would be. However, if presented with a Windows 8 system to do your business/work there is really no reason to reject it. The Start screen (properly configured) and the App screen simply replace the Start Button menus from XP or Win7 and are possibly even easier to use. There may even be a useful Metro App someday.
 

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Hi,

However, if presented with a Windows 8 system to do your business/work there is really no reason to reject it.

Sorry, but I don't quite understand the reasoning. From a business POV I see no reason whatsoever to accept this new OS. None.

Unless you'd like to clarify your point?

Cheers, ;)
 

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I agree to upgrade the computers in your business does not make sense. If you need to operate in a foreign environment for some reason (consulting on site) and are presented with a Windows 8 system it can be easily configured to do whatever you would have done with XP or Win7. That's an unusual case but that's what I mean by "presented with a Windows 8 system".
 

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Hi,

However, if presented with a Windows 8 system to do your business/work there is really no reason to reject it.

Sorry, but I don't quite understand the reasoning. From a business POV I see no reason whatsoever to accept this new OS. None.

Unless you'd like to clarify your point?

Cheers, ;)

For a business point of view, there was no reason to stop using Windows 3.1.
 

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You are a consultant. They are paying you a lot of money. You must work on their site with their computer. It has a Windows 8 operating system. They have all the programs loaded you need for the job easily accessed and used from the Desktop screen.

You can either work with the Windows 8 system or find another job. Your choice :)
 

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I think this is so hypothetical that people say Windows 8 will fail in the enterprise, mainly due to the fact that many enterprises are mitigating to 7, so of course they won't go to 8. Even then, Windows 8 isn't a meager update to the Start Menu and Taskbar UI, it's supposed to be radically different. That's why Microsoft did this. They redesigned a product to gain ground in the tablet market, because if they don't, they never will. They did this so one day, we'll be using computers in a totally different way because the simple spirit of Windows 8, not being afraid of change.
 

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Someone will come up with a way to bypass the Metro aspects of Windows 8 that will make the Start menu mimic Windows 7 and keep all the inner workings of Windows 8 and all the improvements inside Windows 8 will continue to function. Something is going on inside even when you take away the metro screen and see that memory useage is almost half of what Windows 7 uses and I am sure Windows 8 is a winner.

Several programs have gotten some of it right but none that I have seen have been able to replicate what Windows 7 start had in a fashion that was available in the Developer Preview of Windows 8. Bringing that capability into the Consumer and future releases of Windows 8 would go a long way toward solving all the perception problems with the interface. Hope the capability is developed soon by someone and this nemisis is removed from Windows 8 soon.
 

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Business of the future?

Microsoft…. Windows 8 at this point is an Epic Fail.

Unless the "business of the future" relies on its employees wasting time on Facebook and "Angry Birds".

They did this so one day, we'll be using computers in a totally different way because the simple spirit of Windows 8, not being afraid of change.

Like hurling the machine at the nearest wall and switching to something like Linux?
 

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Hi,

However, if presented with a Windows 8 system to do your business/work there is really no reason to reject it.

Sorry, but I don't quite understand the reasoning. From a business POV I see no reason whatsoever to accept this new OS. None.

Unless you'd like to clarify your point?

Cheers, ;)

For a business point of view, there was no reason to stop using Windows 3.1.

Actually there was -- The maximum file sizes and directories would be totally Not Fit for purpose any more -- and as for Multi Media attachments (yes a lot of businesses use these --not everybody is stuck in front of a keyboard reading email or just doing EXCEL) - well forget it.

If you really want to argue a BETTER business scenario -- maybe one *could* argue (although again incorrectly IMO) that it might have been a better bet staying with Mainframe Applications rather than the "Client Server" arrangement we usually have today.

Actually I can't see any problem with businesses choosing W8 -- but I suspect they won't since HUGE numbers are STILL on XP and just starting to roll out W7. They won't be in any rush for ANOTHER upgrade anytime soon -- whatever the merits of W8 or otherwise..

Cheers
jimbo
 

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You know, I'm not so sure it's a problem though. I mean, in January, there were something like 550m W7 PCs in use. In 2007, there were one billion Windows machines in totally. Assuming that number has increased since then, then you'd say that half of the Windows machines in the world are running W7, tops. It's just a matter of promoting W8 enough for business who are due to change to switch to W8 instead of W7.
 

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Hi,

Someone will come up with a way to bypass the Metro aspects of Windows 8 that will make the Start menu mimic Windows 7 and keep all the inner workings of Windows 8 and all the improvements inside Windows 8 will continue to function. Something is going on inside even when you take away the metro screen and see that memory useage is almost half of what Windows 7 uses and I am sure Windows 8 is a winner.

Several programs have gotten some of it right but none that I have seen have been able to replicate what Windows 7 start had in a fashion that was available in the Developer Preview of Windows 8. Bringing that capability into the Consumer and future releases of Windows 8 would go a long way toward solving all the perception problems with the interface. Hope the capability is developed soon by someone and this nemisis is removed from Windows 8 soon.

Well put.
I think that's exactly what a lot of people would like to see for their next OS.
As far as I'm concerned they can call that version Windows 8 Professional and stuff Ultimate with all the goodies and baddies no one really needs to do his job.

Cheers, ;)
 

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People seem to forget.......we people who used XP when it first came out.....and Windows 7 when it first came out are getting "older"

The new UI is made for younger people who have been using android on their phones, using hand-held devices, and now they will be sitting in offices and they will want their "desktop" to look like the stuff they're used to.

Microsoft may be a lot of things but they are not stupid. They are making Windows 8 for a good reason. They have a plan. Probably a good plan to make a lot of money.

I will not be buying multiple copies of Windows 8 like I did XP and Windows 7 but at some point we will look back on Windows 7 and it will look "old"
 

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Count me as another business IT user that will never deploy this in the enterprise. I liked all the paper specs of Windows 8 until I've started to use it and realized this direction is flawed.

They should release a Win 8 desktop version and then release a separate tablet version like prior Windows and spend more time tweaking the UI.

The way this OS is designed right now:

- Terrible with productivity apps
- Great with viewing or consumption apps like stock tickers, weather widgets, or video players.
- Terrible for document editing
- The GUI is completely counter-intuitive.
 

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I think it's too early to tell for Windows 8. Windows 8 is still in progress and subject to change, and the stance on enterprise use hasn't fully been clarified. Most companies are just now rolling out Windows 7 (after skipping Vista), and will take many years to start upgrading to Windows 8 or it's successors. Until then IT is free to review Win8 and note what needs to be improved, and Microsoft can enact those changes to make Windows more sastisfactory for enterprise use.
 

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Count me as another business IT user that will never deploy this in the enterprise. I liked all the paper specs of Windows 8 until I've started to use it and realized this direction is flawed.

They should release a Win 8 desktop version and then release a separate tablet version like prior Windows and spend more time tweaking the UI.

The way this OS is designed right now:

- Terrible with productivity apps
- Great with viewing or consumption apps like stock tickers, weather widgets, or video players.
- Terrible for document editing
- The GUI is completely counter-intuitive.

I do agree a desktop-only version would be nice. But.... what's the problem with productivity apps? I develop websites with Expression Web, it works well. All my programs for messing with pictures work well. They are all there on the desktop just like they have been with XP and Win7 for years.

Document editing?? I use Word and Publisher to create newsletters. They work fine.

The GUI is no problem. One quick key stroke and you are on the desktop. Use the Start and App screens if you like or completely ignore them.

I don't see any good reason to pay for an upgrade or use Windows 8 in your business but there is nothing basically wrong with the operating system.
 

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That's just it though, they are "Apps". Just like you have for tablets and mobiles, they are cut down versions of full desktop Applications and lack many functions that are required by the office user.

Large businesses (like the one I work for) also buy their software with bulk licencing for mass execution and there is no way in Hell would they choose to go down the Micro Transaction route to install separate word/spreadsheet/PowerPoint apps from multiple devs when MSOffice gives you the complete package with support.

It is still far too early for businesses to adopt Win8. As said above, there will have to be mass testing to ensure compatibility with all of the programs and other systems used. Our company have just started rolling out win7 too but would not have done that if MS had not forced IBM's hand by dropping support for xp, we are already seeing problems connecting to our Mainframe sessions as it is.
 

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You do realize the Desktop is still there, right?
 

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