I really do think that Windows 8 will be a success

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A couple days ago, I used my Windows To Go USB drive on my friend's gaming laptop. When I initially showed him Windows 8, he didn't like it and didn't care for it. He's the gamer type, and by gamer type, I mean a Desktop with LITERALLY the ENTIRE screen full of little icons for games from DOS to PSx emulators and DS and PC games. It's gross. And what's even grosser is his Start Menu in Windows 7. OH MY. :sick:

But when I booted up to my Windows 8 drive on his laptop, I told him to use it. So he did for about 20 minutes or so. I had to point out and guide him a little on how to use it. For example, I told him, "Where traditionally is the Start button located?" So after that time period, I asked him if given the option between Windows 7 (which he loves) and 8, he choose Windows 8 only IF it has better gaming performance. He would choose Windows 8 over 7 just to actually use an operating system and its navigation. I told him how Windows 8 will be running on ARM processors and has been found to run games with better framerates than 7, he was sold.

Now, I post this in the face of how people are going off on the tangent of how "real" people will be using Windows 8 with epic fails. Notice how those "real" people are older and generally will never update their Windows OS unless if the physically computer itself is dead? Older people don't always care about what's best or what's the latest version, they care about if it works or not. It if works, don't do anything, if not; well yeah. Real people that will be using Windows 8 are people in the enterprise, college students, gamers, young people that want something else other than a laptop, families that need a new PC. Those are the REAL people that will be using and upgrading to Windows 8.
 

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So, "old" people are not real people. Is that some kind of selective misanthropy! As for enterprises, well that's already been discussed here and elsewhere and the general consensus is the complete opposite to your assessment. By the way, when my teenagers had a chance to 'play' with Windows 8, their collective pronouncement was "it's gay"!
 

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Now, I post this in the face of how people are going off on the tangent of how "real" people will be using Windows 8 with epic fails. Notice how those "real" people are older and generally will never update their Windows OS unless if the physically computer itself is dead? Older people don't always care about what's best or what's the latest version, they care about if it works or not. It if works, don't do anything, if not; well yeah. Real people that will be using Windows 8 are people in the enterprise, college students, gamers, young people that want something else other than a laptop, families that need a new PC. Those are the REAL people that will be using and upgrading to Windows 8.

Sorry don't agree. If there are real world benefits then folks will upgrade. Forget whether the existing set up is working okay. A model T Ford will get you from A to B (eventually) but there are real world benefits with a newer Ford.

And for the record, I've always upgraded. Yes I did 'upgrade' to Vista and once the fluff was removed I never had a problem with it. Also went with Win7 which is an 0.1 upgrade from Vista so I don't think your argument stacks up - well not with me it doesn't..
 

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So, "old" people are not real people. Is that some kind of selective misanthropy! As for enterprises, well that's already been discussed here and elsewhere and the general consensus is the complete opposite to your assessment. By the way, when my teenagers had a chance to 'play' with Windows 8, their collective pronouncement was "it's gay"!

:ditto:

We should all still be using MS-DOS - LOL
 

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Seems like you have always thought that.

From your previous posts - you are one of those who is wildly enthusisatic and keen to get others to go along with you.

I don't mind if someone else likes it or not. It is their choice.

It is not up to me to persuade them otherwise.
 

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Let's say gaming scale, arbitrarily is 1-100. This is not scientific by any means, just my feeling, which I guess is important to me because it's how I feel lol!

Windows 7 here - the benchmark - I will set at 50, so ~ half way between 1-100

Windows 8 here, by that standard, for gaming - Probably 55
 

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Let's say gaming scale, arbitrarily is 1-100. This is not scientific by any means, just my feeling, which I guess is important to me because it's how I feel lol!

Windows 7 here - the benchmark - I will set at 50, so ~ half way between 1-100

Windows 8 here, by that standard, for gaming - Probably 55

Apologies, I'm not sure I follow that. on your scale is Windows 8 better or worse?
 

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Coke, I also think that 8 will be a success. By the time it comes out, they will have improved on the Preview version. The biggest objection is the Metro desktop, (which I'm starting to like) which is easily avoided.
 

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I think the acceptance of Windows 8 will all depend on the beef - better functions, better applications, better performance, more Ease of Use and maybe price.

Although I personally like Win8, I do not see a lot of that yet. Fuctionally there is very little that intrigues me. Most of the new applications do not work yet and if they do (somehow), they don't excite me - except the weather app. That is really nice.

With predictions on performance I would be careful. Yes it is fast now, but the Win7 Beta was also a lot faster than my Win7 today. Once you load the system up, performance will change.

That leaves Ease of Use. I think the Metro is very helpful in that regard. Yes it is different from what we are used to, but for the average user it should be easier to lauch applications (once the start menu is organized) and it beats a bunch of shortcuts on the desktop any day.

And for price - I doubt that Windows 8 will sell for $29.95 like Snow Leopard did. It would be nice though and would certainly help acceptance.
 

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Calico - I just put Win 7 as 50/100 for a base to go by.

I put Win 8 as 55/100.

It's a convoluted way to say I think Win8 is better by about a 5% margin based on how it feels when playing.
 

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Calico - I just put Win 7 as 50/100 for a base to go by.

I put Win 8 as 55/100.

It's a convoluted way to say I think Win8 is better by about a 5% margin based on how it feels when playing.

Thanks for the clarification :)
 

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So, "old" people are not real people. Is that some kind of selective misanthropy! As for enterprises, well that's already been discussed here and elsewhere and the general consensus is the complete opposite to your assessment. By the way, when my teenagers had a chance to 'play' with Windows 8, their collective pronouncement was "it's gay"!
Well, the technological demographic isn't geared towards the older crowd, that's a given. And for enterprises, that's a general consensus of people saying that it's too much time and effort initially to move towards a new OS, maybe for productivity or simply cost. But if given the chance or opportunity, there are IT admins that would upgrade to 8.

HA! Hostility by calling something a name doesn't always pass off....I thought tablets were "gay" once, now I can see myself using one.
 

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Now, I post this in the face of how people are going off on the tangent of how "real" people will be using Windows 8 with epic fails. Notice how those "real" people are older and generally will never update their Windows OS unless if the physically computer itself is dead? Older people don't always care about what's best or what's the latest version, they care about if it works or not. It if works, don't do anything, if not; well yeah. Real people that will be using Windows 8 are people in the enterprise, college students, gamers, young people that want something else other than a laptop, families that need a new PC. Those are the REAL people that will be using and upgrading to Windows 8.

Sorry don't agree. If there are real world benefits then folks will upgrade. Forget whether the existing set up is working okay. A model T Ford will get you from A to B (eventually) but there are real world benefits with a newer Ford.

And for the record, I've always upgraded. Yes I did 'upgrade' to Vista and once the fluff was removed I never had a problem with it. Also went with Win7 which is an 0.1 upgrade from Vista so I don't think your argument stacks up - well not with me it doesn't..
I think what the gist of what you're saying is basically the same thing that every new Windows OS goes through, is it better than the last? With 2000 to xp, the benefit was better media managing and improvements here and there. From xp to vista, there weren't any benefits. From vista to 7, there were benefits. From 7 to 8, it depends on what form factor you use. If you use mobile form factors, there are benefits. If you're using a desktop, maybe not. But considering 40 percent of Windows OS market share is still xp, going from xp to 8 is a PLETHORA of benefits.
 

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So, "old" people are not real people. Is that some kind of selective misanthropy! As for enterprises, well that's already been discussed here and elsewhere and the general consensus is the complete opposite to your assessment. By the way, when my teenagers had a chance to 'play' with Windows 8, their collective pronouncement was "it's gay"!
Well, the technological demographic isn't geared towards the older crowd, that's a given.

If you have some statistics, I'd really like to see them?

Whilst it quite true that young people are generally quite quick to adopt new technology, they aren't the only group to do so. In fact the group with the highest adoption of new technology are the group with the highest disposable income and they are the 46 to 64 year old range, otherwise known as the 'baby boomers'. So I guess it depends on your definition of 'old'.

And for enterprises, that's a general consensus of people saying that it's too much time and effort initially to move towards a new OS, maybe for productivity or simply cost. But if given the chance or opportunity, there are IT admins that would upgrade to 8.

Unfortunately, that's pure speculation which is really quite contrary to the consensus. However, it's quite possible enterprises will find a liking for Windows 8 on the tablet and server. But only time will tell.

HA! Hostility by calling something a name doesn't always pass off....I thought tablets were "gay" once, now I can see myself using one.

In this case, it's not so much "calling something a name" rather, it's simply suggesting the product is not very good. However, in fairness to Windows 8, the disparaging remark was quite squarely aimed at Metro and not the underlying OS. It's also worth noting that I only mentioned their response, as an opposing view to your "college students, gamers, young people" comment.
 

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Hi,

I'm not so sure "old-timers" are as technologically challenged as we think, or at least I don't think so. Take a look at this poll that has been running a while now - look at which age groups make up the most users at SevenForums. If you have been active there, you will admit that the vast bulk of experience comes from the older members.

Which age category do you fall in? - Windows 7 Forums

Regards,
Golden
 

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Respect your elders, the meek will inherit the Earth and the nitwits at Microsoft are chumps :thumbsup:
 

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Notice how those "real" people are older and generally will never update their Windows OS unless if the physically computer itself is dead? Older people don't always care about what's best or what's the latest version, they care about if it works or not. It if works, don't do anything, if not; well yeah. Real people that will be using Windows 8 are people in the enterprise, college students, gamers, young people that want something else other than a laptop, families that need a new PC. Those are the REAL people that will be using and upgrading to Windows 8.

You have no idea of what you are talking about, let me guess you still a student ? , if it's a plsce they don't like change it's the corporate world, look at the numer of XP they are still using.....

What a joke..... I'm 51 years old and I change my PC every 3 months. Look at my system spec. I don't think I'm quite the typical person who just wait is PC die to get a new Windows, and let me tell you, unless MS make big change, Windows 7 will stay in my Most Up-to-date PC.
 

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